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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #720 on: August 15, 2023, 11:25:44 am »
We havent beaten Chelsea in years and there are 5 better teams than them.

Holding them to 1 goal was great. 

Our final third was crap.

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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #721 on: August 15, 2023, 12:29:21 pm »
People have gone too far the other way with our side. I get some level of pessimism, but the way the team is being written off completely is fucking odd. How many of our side do you wish were replaced by Chelsea’s players yesterday?

They finished 12th last season. They were missing their main striker. So lacking in midfield they're trying to sign the same 2 midfielders we were looking at. Yet they dominated the ball with ease. The performance was dire. There's not much more to say aside from that. The 20 minutes before and after half-time we struggled to get the ball in our attacking half. We are lucky they're so impotent in attack, I think had we played a more well drilled side e.g. Brentford we'd have lost playing like that.

It was one game, who knows how the rest of the season will pan out, but it's very hard not to be concerned because the pattern we saw was the same one we saw last season. Zero presence in midfield, ball passes through it with no resistance. Leaving a lot of space out wide, easy to get in behind and into dangerous positions. Limited pressure from forwards. Sitting off the opposition for long parts of the game. Struggling to control the ball and resorting to long balls when we do regain possession. Event more concerning because I think they're a shit side.

Hopefully the Bournemouth game gives a bit more to be excited about.

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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #722 on: August 15, 2023, 01:05:35 pm »
They finished 12th last season. They were missing their main striker. So lacking in midfield they're trying to sign the same 2 midfielders we were looking at. Yet they dominated the ball with ease. The performance was dire. There's not much more to say aside from that. The 20 minutes before and after half-time we struggled to get the ball in our attacking half. We are lucky they're so impotent in attack, I think had we played a more well drilled side e.g. Brentford we'd have lost playing like that.

It was one game, who knows how the rest of the season will pan out, but it's very hard not to be concerned because the pattern we saw was the same one we saw last season. Zero presence in midfield, ball passes through it with no resistance. Leaving a lot of space out wide, easy to get in behind and into dangerous positions. Limited pressure from forwards. Sitting off the opposition for long parts of the game. Struggling to control the ball and resorting to long balls when we do regain possession. Event more concerning because I think they're a shit side.

Hopefully the Bournemouth game gives a bit more to be excited about.

Completely disagree. Their position of 12th was false. A point away to Chelsea is fine and I am not having all this talk of them being shite.

But opinions I guess.

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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #723 on: August 15, 2023, 01:18:02 pm »
Completely disagree. Their position of 12th was false. A point away to Chelsea is fine and I am not having all this talk of them being shite.

But opinions I guess.

Agree.
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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #724 on: August 15, 2023, 01:34:12 pm »
Completely disagree. Their position of 12th was false. A point away to Chelsea is fine and I am not having all this talk of them being shite.

But opinions I guess.

They were killed by injuries last season, although one could argue their squad was so huge they should have been able to manage through this infinitely better than they did

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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #725 on: August 15, 2023, 02:14:17 pm »
Chelsea were mismanaged last year in my opinion. Especially put Lampard incharge who isn't even good enough for the PL.
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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #726 on: August 15, 2023, 03:26:49 pm »

The current FA handball law - Law 12 - states: "It is an offence if a player touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger".
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- https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news/liverpool/liverpool-chelsea-penalty-handball-var-premier-league-929980-20230813

Does this mean a player can literally handle the ball at any point in front of their body now and that's fine?!
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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #727 on: August 15, 2023, 04:57:31 pm »
We didn't play against a side assembled for a billion though. Colwill, Silva, Gallagher and James cost nothing. Chukwuemeka cost £15m, Sanchez cost £20m, Jackson cost £33m, Disasi £40m, Chilwell £45m, Sterling £50m and Enzo was £105m.

So we faced an 11 that cost £300m to assemble. We actually spent much more money on our starting 11.

Badiashile, Fofana, Nkunku, Caicedo need to be added to the team plus any other signings before it becomes a billion-pound side. That is a scary thought for me. 


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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #728 on: August 15, 2023, 06:29:51 pm »
- Handballs. Both penalties. The first one, the ball changed direction so much that could have been an own goal. It is hilarious to even debate about it.

- The second one, the referee invented an offensive foul by Elliot to cancel out what happens immediately after (Szoboszlai crosses the ball which stops on the defenders extended arm)

- chelsea had to start their new debt financed era without losing. At any cost. 

- chelsea are built on colossal debts and rumours. Putin pulled out of the club, but left no debt. The new US owners found the opportunity and room to load the club with debt, to inflate its declining value. Hence the rumours and their despair to prove that they are bigger than Liverpool. They are terrified of the post-putin era, of going back to what they really are a mid/low table mediocrity, with a very limited fanbase.

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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #729 on: August 15, 2023, 06:54:31 pm »
- Handballs. Both penalties. The first one, the ball changed direction so much that could have been an own goal. It is hilarious to even debate about it.

- The second one, the referee invented an offensive foul by Elliot to cancel out what happens immediately after (Szoboszlai crosses the ball which stops on the defenders extended arm)

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First one: arms tucked in, player one foot away gets flick-on touch = no penalty.

Second, it was a freekick for offside before the ball was kicked against his arm = no penalty.
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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #730 on: August 16, 2023, 04:15:06 am »
First one: arms tucked in, player one foot away gets flick-on touch = no penalty.

Second, it was a freekick for offside before the ball was kicked against his arm = no penalty.

Arm tucked in :lmao
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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #731 on: August 16, 2023, 06:17:50 am »
It's all starting to make sense now

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Re: PL: Chelsea 1 v 1 Liverpool Diaz 19’ Disasi 37’
« Reply #732 on: August 16, 2023, 06:37:00 am »
The Chelsea team we faced we should have beaten..

The first 20 or so minutes we were dominant and you could see the gaps which we could exploit, did exploit, to get our lead and narrowly missed extending it...

Our DM-shaped hole in the middle of the park was clear but it's a known issue. And Chelsea were a bit toothless.

When other teams get through us because of our obvious weaknesses defensively in the middle of the park it seems to really get to the team alot. We don't then attack with the same confidence and the game meanders.

Last season quite a few times it was at that point we would be conceding a goal it felt like a slog to get back in it and often was.
Similar thing happened on Sunday. We did pick ourselves up again in the 2nd half but couldn't make much of it.

I hoped this season, knowing that and having our obvious strengths up top we'd be attacking teams to death.

It's only been one game and I'm sure we will get a DM that hopefully will be a starter and consistently in the team for us to see this season really start....
Until then, if we are not "attacking teams to death" let's just hope we do enough to get as many points as possible.

1 point at Stamford Bridge is NOT a bad return.
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