Topic: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch

[Cheshire_Cat]

Would be quite funny if that’s the day after they lose the cup final to their city rivals.

They could share the bus! Brexit Jim would approve of that!

[mattD]

West Ham's Pacqueta has been charged.

Maybe he can join Man City, by which he'll then be able to get away with it?

[Tobelius]

West Ham's Pacqueta has been charged.

Maybe he can join Man City, by which he'll then be able to get away with it?

Should definitely join them,what's a few more charges on top of their 115+ and cheaty can afford to put a couple a lawyers from their huge legal team on his case.

[swoopy]

Few of them getting giddy on twitter having heard they're getting "cleared of all charges later this year"...

I don't believe it.

[exiledintheUSA]

Few of them getting giddy on twitter having heard they're getting "cleared of all charges later this year"...

I don't believe it.

Money talks.

[swoopy]

Money talks.

The premier league will look effing stupid. It won't be as simple as that. The "big" clubs won't allow it all to just get brushed away.

[exiledintheUSA]

The premier league will look effing stupid. It won't be as simple as that. The "big" clubs won't allow it all to just get brushed away.

UEFA looked silly after their attempt to deal with them too.

I'm sure it won't be brushed away though, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are handed "heavy" fines, deferred for years.

[JRed]

Apparently it was that Tolmie character who said they will be cleared. You know, the same ‘ITK’ who said the club had sent all them cease and desist letters that don’t exist.
If they are cleared then the PL is dead

[A Red Abroad]

Would be quite funny if that’s the day after they lose the cup final to their city rivals.

Nice avatar Nick. 

[cptrios]

Wouldn't they have to have the actual trial (or whatever the upcoming legal proceeding is technically called) in order to be 'cleared' of charges? Or at least get something in front of whatever authority is allowed to dismiss said charges?

I have very little hope that they're going to be punished at the end of this, but I can't see the PL dropping the charges. And barring that, the only 'good' outcomes for City are an acquittal or a settlement - and the latter would definitely be perceived as an admission of guilt.

[decosabute]

The players chose to play for a club they'd never heard of growing up, they know who pays their wages and how, so they're just as guilty as Ped

Can never be said enough. Fuck the lot of them.

Aside from those who were already there at the start of the City "project", or those who signed for them early on, the players who joined them knew exactly who the owners were, what the purpose of it all was, and how fake, artifical and unearned the club's standing was.

DeBruyne, Haaland, Aguero and all their other "legends" are dickheads who happily took the money and medals to do some serious sportswashing.

[emitime]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3gglne0r5ro

"The internet take-up for Manchester City pictures is really poor," says Eamonn.

"All the data and statistics tell the media that there is no point buying in Manchester City stuff because advertisers won't pay for it."

[stockdam]

""Guardiola lives in a serviced apartment hotel place in Manchester city centre - he has hen nights sharing the same lift as him," says James.".


So he hangs around in a lift waiting for hen parties. Must be a crowded lift. Is there a bar in the lift......what about a loo? Is the floor and cable reinforced? Is it by invite only or can anyone join?

[semit5]

He’s a strange one

[LFCEmpire]

Few of them getting giddy on twitter having heard they're getting "cleared of all charges later this year"...

I don't believe it.

The league is toast if that shall come to pass. I think loads of people will be walking away if 115 come out of this without proper punishment. I mean what is the point anymore?

[Barneylfc∗]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3gglne0r5ro

That can't be right. They've the highest revenue in the league. They're massive all over the world.

[Son of Spion]

That can't be right. They've the highest revenue in the league. They're massive all over the world.

Ah, yes, but their world ends at the Stockport boundary.

[BarryCrocker]

Few of them getting giddy on twitter having heard they're getting "cleared of all charges later this year"...

I don't believe it.

Whatever people say about our owners occasionally missing the mark on some of their decisions, they're bloody vocal if they feel there is an uneven rule for one and not others.

[Jookie]

The premier league will look effing stupid. It won't be as simple as that. The "big" clubs won't allow it all to just get brushed away.

I get this.

But surely from the other side there’s huge political pressure not to punish City too harshly (if found guilty)?

I’m not sure how this all plays out but it feels way more than just City and PL (and by extension the other PL clubs).

[spider-neil]

If City gets cleared of all charges I think that's where I tap out. With some of the decisions I've seen go against us in recent years, I'm almost there already.

[Son of Spion]

I get this.

But surely from the other side there’s huge political pressure not to punish City too harshly (if found guilty)?

I’m not sure how this all plays out but it feels way more than just City and PL (and by extension the other PL clubs).

Surely such pressure then proves what we all know anyway. Namely that they are state owned. Something they've always denied and isn't allowed here.

[Wghennessy]

If City gets cleared of all charges I think that's where I tap out. With some of the decisions I've seen go against us in recent years, I'm almost there already.

Last season (23/24) alone has made me want to give it all up but if they get away with it then i completely agree, what's the point?

[spider-neil]

Option 1: relegate City
Option 2: strip them of their titles

Either option is okay with me because if they are relegated but keep their titles those titles will be tainted anyway and if they are stripped of their titles but remain in the league they will be viewed as a joke.
If none of that happens then there was no point in the FA wasting everyone's time in the first place.

[FiSh77]

""Guardiola lives in a serviced apartment hotel place in Manchester city centre - he has hen nights sharing the same lift as him," says James.".


So he hangs around in a lift waiting for hen parties. Must be a crowded lift. Is there a bar in the lift......what about a loo? Is the floor and cable reinforced? Is it by invite only or can anyone join?

He just stands in the corner

Spitting

[smutchin]

If none of that happens then there was no point in the FA wasting everyone's time in the first place.

This is nothing to do with the FA. Arguably it should be but they seem to have no interest in governing the sport at club level.

It’s the Premier League who are bringing the charges. That means if they do strip them of their titles, it’s only the league titles that can be stripped, not the cups.

[JRed]

If Abu Dhabi are not punished then there is literally no point in continuing to be invested in the game. It would just be like Lance Armstrong getting let off and all the other cyclists still competing against him knowing he is playing by different rules.
We, as fans, should then either make feelings known through protests and boycotts. Or, just fuck the game off as it’s rigged.

[BarryCrocker]

Option 1: relegate City
Option 2: strip them of their titles

Either option is okay with me because if they are relegated but keep their titles those titles will be tainted anyway and if they are stripped of their titles but remain in the league they will be viewed as a joke.
If none of that happens then there was no point in the FA wasting everyone's time in the first place.

Juventus coped both.

[A-Bomb]

If City gets cleared of all charges I think that's where I tap out. With some of the decisions I've seen go against us in recent years, I'm almost there already.

I'll be gone if that happens. I love our football club, but that will serious fuck with my sense of fairness - so i'll jib it before i become too angry with the charade.

[PhiLFC#1]

Is there any doubt at all on this that they'll get found not guilty on all charges due to lack of concrete evidence or other loopholes. You see rapists like Greenwood get off scot free and continue living their multi millionnaire life even though there was video evidence. They can easily get away with this with enough money and legal loopholes.

[RedKenWah]

The PL would lose all credibility if they were to drop all those charges. They can’t initiate that and then suddenly back down without serious questions being asked.

[thejbs]

The problem here is the same one we have with VAR. When VAR gives a team a shitty decision, oppo fans don’t support them. It’s all banter with no unified response from fans. With city’s cheating, their irrelevance means oppo fans are ‘bantering’ about the big team that lost. I know I celebrated the aguero moment because it meant Utd lost out.

As the super league thing showed, fans have incredible power when they’re together on something.

[PhiLFC#1]

The PL would lose all credibility if they were to drop all those charges. They can’t initiate that and then suddenly back down without serious questions being asked.

Why not? Who's going to ask questions of them? And what would come of it if they did?

[spider-neil]

The problem here is the same one we have with VAR. When VAR gives a team a shitty decision, oppo fans don’t support them. It’s all banter with no unified response from fans. With city’s cheating, their irrelevance means oppo fans are ‘bantering’ about the big team that lost. I know I celebrated the aguero moment because it meant Utd lost out.

As the super league thing showed, fans have incredible power when they’re together on something.

100% the last decade has been about Manu, Liverpool, and Arsenal losing the league than City winning the league. I have to include myself in that.

[Zlen]

Is there any doubt at all on this that they'll get found not guilty on all charges due to lack of concrete evidence or other loopholes. You see rapists like Greenwood get off scot free and continue living their multi millionnaire life even though there was video evidence. They can easily get away with this with enough money and legal loopholes.

There are no legal loopholes because this is not a court of law, it's an internal Premier League hearing and process. The loopholes were used already. Their attorneys have taken this to outside courts and lost every single time, they tried to fight even having this process - they lost. Now that it is happening there are no laws but the rules of Premier League they can use to fight any of the charges. That's all - rules of the league. And we all know how much they care about those and how far they went in breaking them.

My worry isn't that they'll get off for charges we're currently discussing. My concern is they won't be forced to reveal what they are hiding and the period from 2018 onwards won't be properly investigated and examined. That is the type of settlement City will definitely take, because it would prevent the world from seeing how far it all went. I'm 10000% convinced the Spiegel leaks are nothing but a tip of the iceberg. Because it has to be. Because those documents demonstrate what is basically a criminal organisation - seeped to the bone in corruption, built upon and from corruption with a major chip on it's shoulder and utter disdain for the law. So letting them get away without fully uncovering the scope of their corruption is my main concern.

I hope that basically in the same week this case is resolved (minus appeals) Premier League announces the next steps towards uncovering the full scope of their practices.

[vblfc]

UEFA looked silly after their attempt to deal with them too.

I'm sure it won't be brushed away though, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are handed "heavy" fines, deferred for years.

They beat UEFA charges on a technicality.
Even though they were still found guilty and fined, Pep immediately appeared drinking champagne and declaring their innocence.
Champions League ban lifted.
Within a couple of years they win Champions League.
Hardly a whisper about UEFA charges in media as they win big ears. (Despite the 115 PL charges)
They (City and media) have proved they can easily gaslight a narrative through fines and grey outcomes.
Premier League care about their image and brand, not integrity and fairness.
PL owners care about money.

[Son of Spion]

Juventus coped both.

As should Abu Dhabi. Anything less is a cop-out.

[spider-neil]

There are no legal loopholes because this is not a court of law, it's an internal Premier League hearing and process. The loopholes were used already. Their attorneys have taken this to outside courts and lost every single time, they tried to fight even having this process - they lost. Now that it is happening there are no laws but the rules of Premier League they can use to fight any of the charges. That's all - rules of the league. And we all know how much they care about those and how far they went in breaking them.

My worry isn't that they'll get off for charges we're currently discussing. My concern is they won't be forced to reveal what they are hiding and the period from 2018 onwards won't be properly investigated and examined. That is the type of settlement City will definitely take, because it would prevent the world from seeing how far it all went. I'm 10000% convinced the Spiegel leaks are nothing but a tip of the iceberg. Because it has to be. Because those documents demonstrate what is basically a criminal organisation - seeped to the bone in corruption, built upon and from corruption with a major chip on it's shoulder and utter disdain for the law. So letting them get away without fully uncovering the scope of their corruption is my main concern.

I hope that basically in the same week this case is resolved (minus appeals) Premier League announces the next steps towards uncovering the full scope of their practices.

That's the point, they weren't found innocent. The case was time barred and not once did City prove the allocations false.

[Ray K]

Nice of Mo to get a haircut in time for the Cup final. Should hopefully knock those two sides off the back pages 

[RedSince86]

Interesting.

https://x.com/KoptasticNeil/status/1793759475221844460

[Dim Glas]

Interesting.

https://x.com/KoptasticNeil/status/1793759475221844460

That’s been common knowledge, all season.
No one that matters cares. And no one that doesn’t matter has the energy or desire to protest it - apart from a few social media vids like this.

It’s the apathy and complacency of the PL - the fans, and far too much of the media (and loads of them are likely on the payroll too of course).