Topic: Sub lost visiting the Titanic.

[thaddeus]

To be honest I wasn’t really referring to this thread, just the general online attitude. There’s plenty of that stuff on Twitter.

Fair enough.  I can well believe that Twitter is a cesspit on this subject as it tends to be on most things.

[lobsterboy]

who are we?  Really?

I'm Alan Partridge.

[lobsterboy]

One big learning point for the sub industry in the wake of this - do not paint them white and blue.

I reckon it imploded. Nobody seems convinced about the knocking sounds.

Probably the best/kindest of any of the fatal outcomes for the occupants.
Near instantaneous obliteration.
Would happen so fast the brain couldn't register it.
You would just cease to exist.

[lobsterboy]

Trouble is this is so easily juxtaposed with the sinking of a ship and 650 migrants fleeing in desperation where the world simply shrugs and even tries to criminalise further rescues, yet will mobilise everybody possible for a few very rich people who paid thousands to put their lives at risk in a Heath Robinson submarine for sightseeing.

I'm not happy people have died, the poor father and his kid especially gets me as a dad myself.
Someone said earlier though that its not about how much people are worth.
But it very much is.
Every where we look and the billionaires, the super rich all benefit from this the most. At our expense.

[Nobby Reserve]

It looks like a cross between a fleshlight and a Superlambanana




(another thing the sub and a fleshlight have in common is that they're both full of dead seamen)

[Nobby Reserve]

Surprised musk hasn’t offered to help yet.

He's saved his interjection to distance himself from any besmirching of his Starlink

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-breaks-silence-titanic-081108244.html

I suppose it's better than branding those trying to rescue the sub as 'paedos'

[TepidT2O]

One big learning point for the sub industry in the wake of this - do not paint them white and blue.

I reckon it imploded. Nobody seems convinced about the knocking sounds.

It’s totally dark down there so it doesn’t make a difference really

[Clint Eastwood]

It’s totally dark down there so it doesn’t make a difference really

I was thinking more about the possibility that it could be at the surface or just under the surface, even searching with the naked eye would be difficult.

I think it's definitely imploded, which would be a better way to go for the occupants, but a shame in the sense that the wreckage will probably never be found.

[Ray K]

@SkyNewsBreak
U.S. Coast Guard says debris has been found by a remotely operated vehicle in the search for missing Titanic submersible

[Livbes]

Mass Implosion hopefully.

[Livbes]

Now saying a “debris field” near the titanic wreckage.

[Red-Soldier]

Everyone will know what a ROV is now, thanks to this.  I've been out on the water, using a ROV before.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Everyone will know what a ROV is now, thanks to this.  I've been out on the water, using a ROV before.

They're common in the oil industry, a few of my mates are ROV pilots

[LiverLuke]

If it's debris found then hopefully an quick implosion rather than slow pain suffocation.

[Red Beret]

I see the headlines are already, "Titanic claims five more victims", as if it's the fucking ship's fault. 

[Red-Soldier]

I see the headlines are already, "Titanic claims five more victims", as if it's the fucking ship's fault. 

Well.  They wouldn't be there, if it wasn't for the ship being there.

[Gerry Attrick]

Even if there was no implosion we’re probably way past the point where they could be rescued anyway, this is a search and recover mission now. So, in that case implosion is best case scenario.

[Red Beret]

Well.  They wouldn't be there, if it wasn't for the ship being there.

You could say that about virtually every disaster and tragedy in human history. Hell you could say that about someone getting mugged walking through a known rough area.

Let's not resort to victim shaming, just because the victims died over a century ago?

[Livbes]

Expert on Sky news just confirmed it is parts of Titan. Had his phone in hand and said he was in a WhatsApp group with people at the search. He’s back on now.

[Livbes]

The landing frame and rear cover found.

[Gerry Attrick]

This guy on Sky News is setting himself up big time here. You’d want to be absolutely certain before putting this stuff out there.

[Livbes]

Saying that Hamish had been down to the Mariana Trench in the past. That’s about 3 times deeper than the titanic. We knew he’d been “into space” on blue horizon.

[Livbes]

This guy on Sky News is setting himself up big time here. You’d want to be absolutely certain before putting this stuff out there.

He knows a few of them pretty well and he’s getting his info from people on the ships but yeah, he’s probably the first in the world to tell the masses it’s parts of Titan.

[rob1966]

Hopefully it imploded on the initial dive and they died instantly.

[Red Beret]

Hopefully it imploded on the initial dive and they died instantly.

I would say so. I'm guessing the view port failed and shattered the whole vehicle, leave the landing skids to just drift to the bottom

[TepidT2O]

Hopefully it imploded on the initial dive and they died instantly.

Seems that way, thank heavens for small mercies

[jambutty]

Seems that way, thank heavens for small mercies

I was dreading death by asphyxiation, vehicle recovery, then cell phone goodbyes.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Hopefully it imploded on the initial dive and they died instantly.

That would have been gradual though, best case is that they made it to the bottom and then something failed.

[Billy The Kid]

I see the headlines are already, "Titanic claims five more victims", as if it's the fucking ship's fault. 

Let's not resort to victim shaming, just because the victims died over a century ago?

You seriously need to take a break from this place 

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I was dreading death by asphyxiation, vehicle recovery, then cell phone goodbyes.

Salt water blocks the radio frequency used by mobile phones (as far as I know).

[darragh85]

So likely scenario is they went down too far and this piece of tin imploded under the great pressures encountered at those kind of depths.

What did they aim to achieve by going down there?

[jambutty]

Salt water blocks the radio frequency used by mobile phones (as far as I know).

Not talking transmission, only recorded images.

I'll give the SickTockers 2 hours to put up joke bits.

[Red-Soldier]

You could say that about virtually every disaster and tragedy in human history. Hell you could say that about someone getting mugged walking through a known rough area.

Let's not resort to victim shaming, just because the victims died over a century ago?

Sorry I don't understand.  Are you saying that me saying that they wouldn't be there, if it wasn't for the Titanic being there, is victim blaming?

It's just a cold, hard fact.  If there's no wreck, they wouldn't be there.  Nothing to do with victim shaming whatsoever. 

As above poster said, you need to take a break, I think.

[Red Beret]

You seriously need to take a break from this place

You seriously need to piss off out of my business my friend.

[Red Beret]

Sorry I don't understand.  Are you saying that me saying that they wouldn't be there, if it wasn't for the Titanic being there, is victim blaming?

It's just a cold, hard fact.  If there's no wreck, they wouldn't be there.  Nothing to do with victim shaming whatsoever. 

As above poster said, you need to take a break, I think.

No, I mean the tabloid media running this stupid headline, like it's somehow the Titanic's fault. If we're going to accept that it's a grave site, let's just accept that shit happens.

[gazzalfc]

Oceangate has just released this statement.

We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost, a statement from OceanGate says.

These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans. Our hearts are with these five souls and every member of their families during this tragic time. We grieve the loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew.

This is an extremely sad time for our dedicated employees who are exhausted and grieving deeply over this loss. The entire OceanGate family is deeply grateful for the countless men and women from multiple organizations of the international community who expedited wide-ranging resources and have worked so very hard on this mission.

We appreciate their commitment to finding these five explorers, and their days and nights of tireless work in support of our crew and their families.

This is a very sad time for the entire explorer community, and for each of the family members of those lost at sea.

We respectfully ask that the privacy of these families be respected during this most painful time.

[Livbes]

So likely scenario is they went down too far and this piece of tin imploded under the great pressures encountered at those kind of depths.

What did they aim to achieve by going down there?

They got down as far as they set out to and the vessel had been to a number of times. They also expected to see the Titanic with their own eyes through the small window with lighting from the sub.

[darragh85]

They got down as far as they set out to and the vessel had been to a number of times. They also expected to see the Titanic with their own eyes through the small window with lighting from the sub.

What's to say they didn't go down further though?

[WhereAngelsPlay]

What's to say they didn't go down further though?

The bottom of the ocean floor ?

[Livbes]

What's to say they didn't go down further though?

It’s pretty flat there. That’s it. Would have to move many, many miles to start getting any deeper. Sounds like it’s been found 200m from the titanics bow. No suggestion it hit or touch the ship itself.

Pretty clear it was a catastrophic failure and implosion as the reached the wreck. That’s consistent with the loss of contact. Small mercies that it will have been instantaneous death.