Topic: Europa League 2023/2024

[RainbowFlick]

There was

the argument then is that people just have 'skipped' the queue for credits by knowing the right people. just a horrible mess all-round that'll only really get fixed by stringent changes which will cause a lot of fume and/or having a period of no/limited european competitions and some sort of reset

edit: as an afterthought, maybe they decided against the change this season because they know next seasons' CL will be this new format and extra fixtures. but maybe i'm giving them a bit too much grace with thinking that could be the logic 

[ABJ]

The meeting finished 1 hour ago. Seems unlikely a ballot will take place for Atalanta. Still not confirmed until allocation is revealed

Highly unlikely it was ever even mentioned let alone discussed for reasons already explained.

[Tiz Lad]

the argument then is that people just have 'skipped' the queue for credits by knowing the right people. just a horrible mess all-round that'll only really get fixed by stringent changes which will cause a lot of fume and/or having a period of no/limited european competitions and some sort of reset

edit: as an afterthought, maybe they decided against the change this season because they know next seasons' CL will be this new format and extra fixtures. but maybe i'm giving them a bit too much grace with thinking that could be the logic 

Hmm Logic and the TO, that's a step too far I'd say

It's an unholy mess, that personally think is impossible to retrieve now

[30fiver]

There was

Where was this posted, fan forum meeting minutes?

[Tiz Lad]

Where was this posted, fan forum meeting minutes?

Yes

[Craig S]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/atalanta-v-liverpool-away-tickets-update

Liverpool FC would like to update supporters regarding ticket information for the Europa League quarter-final second leg against Atalanta at Stadio di Bergamo.

The match on Thursday April 18 is an 8pm BST kick-off (9pm local time).

We are awaiting full information from Atalanta regarding this fixture but can confirm we will be receiving an allocation of 750 tickets for supporters.

Full selling details will be announced once we have received final details from Atalanta.

We can confirm the club will be carrying out a full ticket collection process at a location in Bergamo.

[30fiver]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/atalanta-v-liverpool-away-tickets-update

Stops the rumours about any potential extras

Has to be 23 of the last 24 games 1st sale surely

• Sparta Prague (07.03.24)
• Union SG (14.12.23)
• Toulouse (09.11.23)
• LASK (21.09.23)
• Real Madrid (15.03.23)
• AFC Ajax (26.10.22)
• Rangers (12.10.22)
• SSC Napoli (07.09.22)
• Atletico Madrid (18.02.20)
• FC Salzburg (10.12.19)
• KRC Genk (23.10.19)
• Napoli (17.09.19)
• FC Barcelona (01.05.19)
• FC Porto (17.04.19)
• Bayern Munich (13.03.19)
• Paris Saint-Germain (28.11.18)
• Red Star Belgrade (06.11.18)
• SSC Napoli (03.10.18)
• AS Roma (02.05.18)
• Manchester City (10.04.18)
• FC Porto (14.02.18)
• Sevilla FC (21.11.17)
• NK Maribor (17.10.17)
• Spartak Moscow (26.09.17)

[ABJ]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/atalanta-v-liverpool-away-tickets-update

As expected but credit to the club for even releasing that rather than complete radio silence like normal.

[Rodneyhide]

Another meeting to take place to determine selling details

[Tiz Lad]

Stops the rumours about any potential extras

Has to be 22 of the last 24 games 1st sale surely

• Sparta Prague (07.03.24)
• Union SG (14.12.23)
• Toulouse (09.11.23)
• LASK (21.09.23)
• Real Madrid (15.03.23)
• AFC Ajax (26.10.22)
• Rangers (12.10.22)
• SSC Napoli (07.09.22)
• Atletico Madrid (18.02.20)
• FC Salzburg (10.12.19)
• KRC Genk (23.10.19)
• Napoli (17.09.19)
• FC Barcelona (01.05.19)
• FC Porto (17.04.19)
• Bayern Munich (13.03.19)
• Paris Saint-Germain (28.11.18)
• Red Star Belgrade (06.11.18)
• SSC Napoli (03.10.18)
• AS Roma (02.05.18)
• Manchester City (10.04.18)
• FC Porto (14.02.18)
• Sevilla FC (21.11.17)
• NK Maribor (17.10.17)
• Spartak Moscow (26.09.17)

I think 23/24 and sells out on 22. Once hospo and sponsors are taken out be surprised if there's 600 in the first sale

[30fiver]

I think 23/24 and sells out on 22. Once hospo and sponsors are taken out be surprised if there's 600 in the first sale

Fat fingers - changed it did mean 23

25 dropped off at LASK I think, plus however many didnt collect somewhere, missed a napoli etc, might actually be 22

The 23 is relying on everyone having continued to buy and collect every game, scan in at LASK etc
No bans, missed sales, deaths, missed scans, missed collections etc

[PaulKS]

Stops the rumours about any potential extras

Has to be 23 of the last 24 games 1st sale surely

• Sparta Prague (07.03.24)
• Union SG (14.12.23)
• Toulouse (09.11.23)
• LASK (21.09.23)
• Real Madrid (15.03.23)
• AFC Ajax (26.10.22)
• Rangers (12.10.22)
• SSC Napoli (07.09.22)
• Atletico Madrid (18.02.20)
• FC Salzburg (10.12.19)
• KRC Genk (23.10.19)
• Napoli (17.09.19)
• FC Barcelona (01.05.19)
• FC Porto (17.04.19)
• Bayern Munich (13.03.19)
• Paris Saint-Germain (28.11.18)
• Red Star Belgrade (06.11.18)
• SSC Napoli (03.10.18)
• AS Roma (02.05.18)
• Manchester City (10.04.18)
• FC Porto (14.02.18)
• Sevilla FC (21.11.17)
• NK Maribor (17.10.17)
• Spartak Moscow (26.09.17)

Mental that, fair play to anyone who qualifies in the guaranteed sale 😂

[30fiver]

Mental that, fair play to anyone who qualifies in the guaranteed sale 😂

Well, to those who qualify AND attended them all - know a few who have

Lots will have passed on though

Personally done 11 of the last 15 on that list, plus most of the 2021/22 creditless season, but only have 2 credits

[Tommypig]

Know it won't happen, but would be nice if all 23/24 got regardless as some would probably have booked already.

Then the 22/24 to give first dibs to the people actually traveling in their own name and then the rest passed to guests of the 22/24.

This way no one who has booked regardless looses out as none of 22/24 were guaranteed anyway.

[30fiver]

Know it won't happen, but would be nice if all 23/24 got regardless as some would probably have booked already.

Then the 22/24 to give first dibs to the people actually traveling in their own name and then the rest passed to guests of the 22/24.

This way no one who has booked regardless looses out as none of 22/24 were guaranteed anyway.

I don't think they can change the rules mid-season because of a draw with a low allocation when people will have booked hotels and travel

They'll say you shouldn't book till you have a ticket, yet ask for your travel info on the form

[RedSue]

As expected but credit to the club for even releasing that rather than complete radio silence like normal.

But it’s just stating what we knew 750 visiting supporters!

Why can’t they say based on that criteria will be x games ??

[ABJ]

But it’s just stating what we knew 750 visiting supporters!

Why can’t they say based on that criteria will be x games ??

Everything pointed towards an allocation of 750 but it wasn’t confirmed. Also due to potential safety issues, collections were not guaranteed either. Both have now been confirmed.

Re. Qualifying criteria, I totally agree but unlike other clubs, 1 in particular not a million miles away from us, LFC will never release the numbers as to how many people are on each credit, make of that what you will.

[ABJ]

Know it won't happen, but would be nice if all 23/24 got regardless as some would probably have booked already.

Then the 22/24 to give first dibs to the people actually traveling in their own name and then the rest passed to guests of the 22/24.

This way no one who has booked regardless looses out as none of 22/24 were guaranteed anyway.

So I’ll be buying my own ticket via a card in the potential 1st sale that has 24/24 but then my own card will qualify in the potential 2nd sale for those on 22/24 but as that won’t be booked in my own name, I won’t get the credit even though I have attended? Wow.

I know of plenty in that exact same situation.

[bignred84]

Have done 22/24 without a single credit to my name, what a system.

Atlanta all booked within an hour of the draw.

you can't keep riding/pushing your luck with every low allocation from Toulouse, USG then Prague.

[ABJ]

Have done 22/24 without a single credit to my name, what a system.

Atlanta all booked within an hour of the draw.

you can't keep riding/pushing your luck with every low allocation from Toulouse, USG then Prague.

Which is precisely why you are a prime example of how ridiculous it would be to decide now, mid season, to give priority to those that travel in their own name.

The club have made the rules and you have abided by them, it would be wrong on every level to now decide to penalise people like yourself.

[bignred84]

Which is precisely why you are a prime example of how ridiculous it would be to decide now, mid season, to give priority to those that travel in their own name.

The club have made the rules and you have abided by them, it would be wrong on every level to now decide to penalise people like yourself.

Yes, you are absolutely spot on,

LFC know I have "collected" my ticket at every game.
I'd say its about 95% I have personally collected and the odd occasion I haven't been selected.

I had to go anyway as the others in our group got selected.

3 worthless trips to Napoli in the number, when LFC could have easily done something for the small number that did travel as they have done before with Spartak Moscow

[Rodneyhide]

They're not going to go through every game and check attendee details and create a list of those who attended.
It's either the current system or qualifying members/STH (no passing on tolerance)

[shaunNW]

Don't see the club changing the rules much next season, except maybe making the names that could go have to be decided before the season starts (eg max 4/5) stops people buying for swaps and makes the collections actually worth it

[Barry Banana]

Don't see the club changing the rules much next season, except maybe making the names that could go have to be decided before the season starts (eg max 4/5) stops people buying for swaps and makes the collections actually worth it

Not sure they’d do it - but not a bad suggestion at all. Would mean those who’ve been going for years on someone else’s card could continue to go as a nominee, and mean touts can’t just get details of the highest bidder before each sale.

[Tiz Lad]

Just my personal opinion. Don't think anything will change, it'll be a total minefield.

Whatever is easiest for the club will be the outcome.

Hear things about a full strategic review of ticketing, that then goes to the supporters board, who can vote it down, not sure if that's true about a review or rumour

Just think it will stay the same as it is now

[30fiver]

Just my personal opinion. Don't think anything will change, it'll be a total minefield.

Whatever is easiest for the club will be the outcome.

Hear things about a full strategic review of ticketing, that then goes to the supporters board, who can vote it down, not sure if that's true about a review or rumour

Just think it will stay the same as it is now

About right, Shower of Shite get involved and as they're all seasies on full credit and passing aways on when it suits them so they vote it down

Turkeys don't vote for Christmas

[Nunezgrof121]

Hi all sorry to go off topic, what are the chances of a semi final ticket, if you have got benefica from 22, that's my last euro away on record, so just wondering 🤔

[ABJ]

Hi all sorry to go off topic, what are the chances of a semi final ticket, if you have got benefica from 22, that's my last euro away on record, so just wondering 🤔

That doesn't count as a credit as none of the euro aways counted as credits that season. What do you have the season before that?

[Nunezgrof121]

That doesn't count as a credit as none of the euro aways counted as credits that season. What do you have the season before that?

Hi cheers for the quick reply, Atletico before that then barca then bayern

[ABJ]

Hi cheers for the quick reply, Atletico before that then barca then bayern

No problem.

It will be borderline then because Atleti was 3328 so it will depend entirely on how much we get from Marseille or Benfica (we got 3250 for Benfica last time) for the potential semi final 1st leg. In theory if we get more than 3328 then you'll be in the guaranteed sale for the potential semi but if we get less then you'll be in the 2nd sale.

Again this is all guesswork as a fair few would have moved around or dropped off the ladder since the Atleti match which was just before lockdown 4 years ago but generally speaking, thats how it will work.

[30fiver]

No problem.

It will be borderline then because Atleti was 3328 so it will depend entirely on how much we get from Marseille or Benfica (we got 3250 for Benfica last time) for the potential semi final 1st leg. In theory if we get more than 3328 then you'll be in the guaranteed sale for the potential semi but if we get less then you'll be in the 2nd sale.

Again this is all guesswork as a fair few would have moved around or dropped off the ladder since the Atleti match which was just before lockdown 4 years ago but generally speaking, thats how it will work.

There was also a full season of CL post the benfica year, with some 'bigger' allocations like napoli and rangers

You reckoning if they say X of 24 for Atalanta, it'll be X of 25 for the SF (should we qualify)

Or 1 of the 5 this season

Or X of the last two seasons

[Nunezgrof121]

No problem.

It will be borderline then because Atleti was 3328 so it will depend entirely on how much we get from Marseille or Benfica (we got 3250 for Benfica last time) for the potential semi final 1st leg. In theory if we get more than 3328 then you'll be in the guaranteed sale for the potential semi but if we get less then you'll be in the 2nd sale.

Again this is all guesswork as a fair few would have moved around or dropped off the ladder since the Atleti match which was just before lockdown 4 years ago but generally speaking, thats how it will work.

Cheers m8 thanx for the help

[Craig S]

Stops the rumours about any potential extras

Has to be 23 of the last 24 games 1st sale surely

• Sparta Prague (07.03.24)
• Union SG (14.12.23)
• Toulouse (09.11.23)
• LASK (21.09.23)
• Real Madrid (15.03.23)
• AFC Ajax (26.10.22)
• Rangers (12.10.22)
• SSC Napoli (07.09.22)
• Atletico Madrid (18.02.20)
• FC Salzburg (10.12.19)
• KRC Genk (23.10.19)
• Napoli (17.09.19)
• FC Barcelona (01.05.19)
• FC Porto (17.04.19)
• Bayern Munich (13.03.19)
• Paris Saint-Germain (28.11.18)
• Red Star Belgrade (06.11.18)
• SSC Napoli (03.10.18)
• AS Roma (02.05.18)
• Manchester City (10.04.18)
• FC Porto (14.02.18)
• Sevilla FC (21.11.17)
• NK Maribor (17.10.17)
• Spartak Moscow (26.09.17)

24 is guaranteed sale, 23 2nd sale.

Doesn't seem right to me

[30fiver]

24 is guaranteed sale, 23 2nd sale.

Doesn't seem right to me

Why not?

Moscow 500 ish went, Maribor was 642 + 200 top seats

Next was Prague

[anfieldpurch]

Now confirmed, 24/24 required for first sale

[Craig S]

Why not?

Moscow 500 ish went, Maribor was 642 + 200 top seats

Next was Prague

Would have thought 23 would be guaranteed with those numbers. Maybe quite a few with moscow (as it went to all members) and not maribor - and vice versa

[30fiver]

Why not?

Moscow 500 ish went, Maribor was 642 + 200 top seats

Next was Prague

just seen the details

[Luke 17]

Wtf? surely should of started on 23 and 22 2nd sale?

[Luke 17]

Why not?

Moscow 500 ish went, Maribor was 642 + 200 top seats

Next was Prague

nah was only about 300 for Moscow an most of them were russian reds

[PJJ]

This should be 23 out of 24 guaranteed. Moscow went to all members and Maribor was 642. The only explanation is that they have increased the corporate uptake significantly since 2018 given the new stand. Absolute joke