Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted)

[BarryCrocker]

Worth waiting for?

Borussia Monchengladbach manager Gerardo Seoane has revealed that Manu Kone will miss up to six weeks of action after picking up a knee injury while representing France at the Under-21 Euros.

"The important thing is that it's not a serious injury. It will take about six weeks," he is quoted as saying.

[amir87]

Worth waiting for?

Think we moved on before his injury even happened.

[Romford_Red]

Because Lavia is rneesszxl .

I've got some hayfever tablets in my coat if you need one.

[paulrazor]

Since szobo signed I think the Thuram and Kone talk went quiet

Highly doubt we sign either one now

[the_red_pill]

Sounds like Rodger's team in 13/14.  I prefer the latter to be honest.

I think he's referring to "starting a rebuild", and it's correct. Klopp did start rebuilding from the front with us.

[the_red_pill]

I feel like it's been quite busy? At least in terms of the bigger clubs. We've done two major signings, Arsenal have basically done three albeit still waiting on Rice and Timber being officially announced. United have done Mount, about to do Onana. City to be fair have only done Kovacic. Chelsea have done Jackson and confirmed Nkunku, Newcastle have done Tonali, Spurs have done Maddison and that keeper. Brighton have been busy (Joao Pedro, Milner, Dahoud and Verbruggen).

Agree that lower down the league has been quiet. I do think Saudi has affected things, will have really impacted all clubs.

Szoboslai to us, Nkunku to Chelsea. That Nkunku-Szoboslai combo was perhaps the most devastating in Germany last season. Quick, powerful, relentless, and devastating.
Szoboslai will have more strikers here to entertain, and I can't wait.

[rocco]

Yeah I think Doak has a very good chance of going out on loan this season.  Reckon he'd rinse fullbacks in the Championship.

I’d be surprised if we loan him out due to him only been 17, he could still still get a few cup haves with us and a good preseason with the first team

[slaphead]

I’d be surprised if we loan him out due to him only been 17.

Wasn't Harvey Elliot 17 when he went to Blackburn ?  Done him the world of good too. With loans it depends on the club and manager. Tony Mowbray has a reputation for playing good football, suited Elliot really well

[tubby]

I’d be surprised if we loan him out due to him only been 17, he could still still get a few cup haves with us and a good preseason with the first team

Depends what's best for his development, I guess.  He's already rapid and I don't think he'll get much beefier, so physically he's ready.  A season of torching defenders in the Championship could be brilliant for him.

[clinical]

Since szobo signed I think the Thuram and Kone talk went quiet

Highly doubt we sign either one now

Kone if Lavia doesn't happen.

[the_red_pill]

Yeah I reckon we've got Lavia and Colwill as the next two to ideally sign but depends on how much both players back their respective clubs into a corner. If that doesn't happen then hopefully have enough time to move onto the next target. Very happy with the two new signings but we definitely need more before the window shuts.

Think you and Pete are on the track, Amir.
We've done our bizzy for the start of pre-season and we can afford to wait it out for the defensive signings. We are definitely making them this summer- as is evident of our pursuit of Lavia and Colwill, as well as the Shuurs-rumours, but we have some time on our hands.
As Klopp said- some signings, we can wait for.

[clinical]

Think the next few weeks we'll see how Jorg does.

We've paid two release clauses so far that anyone could do,  so now he'll have to start negotiating.

[amir87]

Think the next few weeks we'll see how Jorg does.

We've paid two release clauses so far that anyone could do,  so now he'll have to start negotiating.

There's more to the role then simply just going, "we'll pay the release clause mate." Granted, it makes it a lot simpler with the selling club but I'd assume some lengthy conversations happen with the player and his representatives before we even get to that stage.

[Coolie High]

Don’t  know why we’re not interested in Max Kilman.

[thaddeus]

Don’t  know why we’re not interested in Max Kilman.

My guess would be that we don't think he's mobile enough for the way we ask our defenders to play.  They need aerial dominance (tick) but also the mobility of a full-back (cross).  Even Virg looks a bit lost after he seemingly lost that extra bit of pace.

[MD1990]

I think Tosin Adarabioyo would be a great pick up
homegrown 26 soon at his peak. Excellent in the air,decent on the ball & excellent pace as well
Out of contract in 2024 too

[Rawkybalboa]

Don’t  know why we’re not interested in Max Kilman.

On paper hes the meanest defender out there.

[amir87]

There's probably a decent sized list of central defenders we're looking at but we require a pretty specific fit in our team which is why Colwill stands out by a mile.

[Coolie High]

My guess would be that we don't think he's mobile enough for the way we ask our defenders to play.  They need aerial dominance (tick) but also the mobility of a full-back (cross).  Even Virg looks a bit lost after he seemingly lost that extra bit of pace.

I thought he had decent pace, if we can’t get Colwill surely he’d be a decent alternative for around 40m?

[Kop Kings]

I thought he had decent pace, if we can’t get Colwill surely he’d be a decent alternative for around 40m?

Think if we're going to be spending 40 million on a LCB who isn't Colwill it's far more likely to be someone like Inacio, who is 21, extremely mobile and has a great pass on him.

[peachybum]

I can imagine its a pretty hard sell to get the owners to pay for another centre back when we have 5 senior ones under contract. Can't see us getting another.

Midfield will be a different story given 4 left at the end of the season.

[Tobelius]

I’d be surprised if we loan him out due to him only been 17, he could still still get a few cup haves with us and a good preseason with the first team

Yeah,plus personally think Klopp tends to keep talent he sees as elite at the club and not loan them out,honestly Doak looks like being one of those.

[Ghost Town]

Man you lot are dumb! He was comedian! made loads of films with his brothers!

If we want him there's no way he'll join us

[Ghost Town]

Pick him over Salah. Further developing young talent is literally the only benefit of being in the early rounds of the Europa.

No, literally the main benefit of being in the early rounds of the Europa is that it allows you to get through to the later rounds of the Europa

[Barefoot Doctor]

The Athletic has an article on Colwill's future today (written by their Chelsea reporter). Basically, says Liverpool are keen on taking him to Anfield and that Chelsea face an uphill battle to convince him his future lies at Stamford Bridge. Two years left on his deal, and an option for a third year which would be triggered if he plays a certain amount of games.

He joins up with Chelsea on 17 July for their pre-season tour and will have talks with Pochettino. Feels like he's not been wanted in the past, with Chelsea trying hard for Gvardiol (who plays same position) and then getting Koulibaly and Badiashile. Also felt poorly treated by Tuchel apparently. Also says that while Chelsea can obviously force him to stay even if he wants to leave, they're aware it risks his value dropping and ends by saying that they need to convince him to sign an extension.

https://theathletic.com/4679003/2023/07/11/chelsea-colwill-contract-mount/?source=emp_shared_article

[Rawkybalboa]

The Athletic has an article on Colwill's future today (written by their Chelsea reporter). Basically, says Liverpool are keen on taking him to Anfield and that Chelsea face an uphill battle to convince him his future lies at Stamford Bridge. Two years left on his deal, and an option for a third year which would be triggered if he plays a certain amount of games.

He joins up with Chelsea on 17 July for their pre-season tour and will have talks with Pochettino. Feels like he's not been wanted in the past, with Chelsea trying hard for Gvardiol (who plays same position) and then getting Koulibaly and Badiashile. Also felt poorly treated by Tuchel apparently. Also says that while Chelsea can obviously force him to stay even if he wants to leave, they're aware it risks his value dropping and ends by saying that they need to convince him to sign an extension.

https://theathletic.com/4679003/2023/07/11/chelsea-colwill-contract-mount/?source=emp_shared_article

Interesting. But what makes people think he will be a starter for us ahaed of VVD and Konate? And if he doesnt then hes not gonna feel very valued.

[Nick110581]

Isn’t Colwill injury prone ?

[Barefoot Doctor]

Interesting. But what makes people think he will be a starter for us ahaed of VVD and Konate? And if he doesnt then hes not gonna feel very valued.

In theory, think he's a more natural fit than Robbo in the new system. Don't think he'd immediately be ahead of him, but between games there and deputising for Virgil, he'd start tons - we're also in Europe which Chelsea aren't.

Also just think he’d trust us more if we said he was going to be part of the next great Liverpool team. We give players time to develop, Chelsea will just keeping signing shiny new toys and that makes it really difficult for players. Thiago Silva was talking about how ridiculous the size of their squad was last season, even the senior players know they’re a basket case under Boehly.

[Dench57]

Colwill + Lavia in and we'd still have change left from the £250m war chest.

[CraigDS]

Colwill + Lavia in and we'd still have change left from the £250m war chest.

Have we even touched that yet? Still thought we were spending the Coutinho money.

[MD1990]

In theory, think he's a more natural fit than Robbo in the new system. Don't think he'd immediately be ahead of him, but between games there and deputising for Virgil, he'd start tons - we're also in Europe which Chelsea aren't.

Also just think he’d trust us more if we said he was going to be part of the next great Liverpool team. We give players time to develop, Chelsea will just keeping signing shiny new toys and that makes it really difficult for players. Thiago Silva was talking about how ridiculous the size of their squad was last season, even the senior players know they’re a basket case under Boehly.

I think people are forgetting Konate will miss games iwyh injury most likely.
We could move Van Dijk to the right if Colwill joined was performing better than Gomez & Matip.

[jepovic]

There's probably a decent sized list of central defenders we're looking at but we require a pretty specific fit in our team which is why Colwill stands out by a mile.

Or hes just a decoy or backup, like Thuram was.
Szobo came out of nowhere, why wouldnt the next signing be similar.
People here talking as if Colwill is the only possible CB available, which is nonsense

[Sangria]

Isn’t Colwill injury prone ?

A perfect fit for Liverpool then.

[LifelongRed, Sussex]

Kone if Lavia doesn't happen.

Or Cornet for Kone.   

[fenre]

So if we get Lavia, we are basically stating that the DM does not to be improved right away, right? As I understand Lavia, he is promising and can become something really special, but he is not of a level yet. Consequently, he will not really improve our squad any substantively this season, but one for the future?

Is that fair? I have not seen a lot of Lavia, but when I have seen him he impressed me for being so young, but he was also very raw and made a lot of mistakes as well, showing that he is not ready yet.

[LifelongRed, Sussex]

Or hes just a decoy or backup, like Thuram was.
Szobo came out of nowhere, why wouldnt the next signing be similar.
People here talking as if Colwill is the only possible CB available, which is nonsense

Maguire?

[HeartAndSoul]

Interesting. But what makes people think he will be a starter for us ahaed of VVD and Konate? And if he doesnt then hes not gonna feel very valued.

I think you’ll realise we pretty much play a back 3 nowadays. Robbo isn’t suited to this new system and colwill seems perfect for that left centre back spot. Also VVD is 32 now so his minutes will need managed

[Rawkybalboa]

Or hes just a decoy or backup, like Thuram was.
Szobo came out of nowhere, why wouldnt the next signing be similar.
People here talking as if Colwill is the only possible CB available, which is nonsense

This I agree with. We seem to be using this tactic more and more. Must admit was funny when ended up with Milan Baros and Nic Anelka same day. As well as Kirklnad and Dudek

[Persephone]

Pick him over Salah. Further developing young talent is literally the only benefit of being in the early rounds of the Europa.

That is never going to happen. You might not value the Europa but it still has a guaranteed place in the CL for the winners and it would be nice to have a Cup to lift at the end of the season.

[Bennett]

That is never going to happen. You might not value the Europa but it still has a guaranteed place in the CL for the winners and it would be nice to have a Cup to lift at the end of the season.

I do value the Europa and I'm ticked on for the ACS next season. But there's no logic to using Salah against teams we can beat without him.

There are also two opportunities to register your squad - one for the groups and one for the knockouts when we're more likely to need better players.