Topic: Welcome to Liverpool, Fabio Carvalho

[RyanBabel19]

Angry?

Just want to curb a bit any shallow optimism based on a game where he really didn’t play well at all. He scored a lucky goal, but looked mostly unfit, leggy and frankly lazy.

Has a long way to go to prove himself.

Wasn't he man of the match?

Not saying everyone who has ever got MOTM deserved it entirely but MOTM is quite far from your assesment. 

[classycarra]

I'll admit i missed at least 15 minutes from the start and 20 from the end, but he didn't look remotely lazy for me.

if anything, given he was supposed to be the second highest player up the pitch, he was over-occupied with helping his side defend their right back against Sunderland's best player (clark? dont know the player)

earned/took a few fouls too, including a couple of brave ones where he knew he'd get hit late, which you wouldnt expect from a player who's not putting their all in

his volley'd goal deserves big praise, regardless of the deflection. the co-commentator called it absolutely spot on (link below). the goal also demonstrated Carvalho's main calling card from when he's played for us - an uncanny knack to find himself space in the box

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13051993/deflected-fabio-carvalho-volley-gives-hull-crucial-lead-at-sunderland

[Hazell]

Just scored a belter for Hull

[disgraced cake]

Good to see him doing well, can't help but feel he could have proved useful staying with us though. Fair enough if the manager didn't want to play him but you look at cup games like Southampton, Europe and even moments where we might need something in the league.

The next manager might want to take a look at him but we should still be able to sell for profit. A prem side with a better plan for him could make things work but it might also suit him going to a Championship side who'll possibly come straight back up like Leicester/Leeds/Southampton have this year.

[B0151?]

Good to see him doing well, can't help but feel he could have proved useful staying with us though. Fair enough if the manager didn't want to play him but you look at cup games like Southampton, Europe and even moments where we might need something in the league.

The next manager might want to take a look at him but we should still be able to sell for profit. A prem side with a better plan for him could make things work but it might also suit him going to a Championship side who'll possibly come straight back up like Leicester/Leeds/Southampton have this year.

Talented lad who it seems Klopp just didn't fancy for whatever reason, new boss very well might feel differently. But at worst, we should be able to profit on him as you say. It's why I don't know why there's some folk who cry about getting in young talent like this even if it doesn't pay off initially.

Regardless, I will always think fondly of the lad for that winner Vs Newcastle. Even though it ended up being a shite season, still a moment that sticks in my mind. Was on holiday watching game in a bar and place went off, great stuff.

[RyanBabel19]

Another goal

Just scored to put them 1-0 up against Leicester

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Another goal

Just scored to put them 1-0 up against Leicester

Missed a pen before that though.

[classycarra]

What a strange time for them to select him to take his first penalty in proprt adult football (unless they don't select before the game, and players on the pitch chose/let him)

[Boston Bosox]

Fulham fined £75,000 over Carvalho rule breach

Fulham have been fined £75,000 by the Premier League and given a suspended six month ban "from registering any academy players currently or previously registered with another club".

The punishment, external relates to a payment made by the Cottagers to Balham Blazers FC following Fabio Carvalho's move to Liverpool.

Attacking midfielder Carvalho joined Fulham's academy from Balham Blazers in December 2014.

The Premier League said, external Fulham "accepted breaches of the Premier League rules in relation to player registrations".

The judgement about the issue added the London club "has accepted that the payment of the settlement sum pursuant to the Carvalho agreement and/or settlement agreement are breaches of rule U.38".

The club's ban is suspended for one year and started on 15 April, 2024.

[MBL?]

From reading that they got a ban and a fine for paying Balhem Blazers when Fulham sold him to us? That sounds wrong?

[RJH]

From reading that they got a ban and a fine for paying Balhem Blazers when Fulham sold him to us? That sounds wrong?

I think it is because he was only 12 when he left there, so it was not counted as a true "transfer" and it's a lot more regulated as to what compensation they are allowed to pay.


Details are here (although quite a bit is redacted):

https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2024/04/30/029f4d04-3f34-4eb7-a081-a24fd1b9ccd2/Sanction-agreement-between-the-Premier-League-and-Fulham-FC-April-2024.pdf

It all seems a bit odd.

They made an agreement with Balhem Blazers back in 2015, but never told any authority about it.
They finally got around to discussing it with the authorities in 2021 - but only the FA and EFL because they had just been relegated from the PL.
When Carvalho went to Liverpool in 2022, BB were entitled to payment under the agreement - but Fulham were now in the PL and the PL said no, that's against our rules. However it seems that Fulham paid the money anyway a year later, then reported themselves to the PL.


I suspect Fulham had backed themselves into a corner where legally they owed the money to BB, but it was against PL rules to pay them. (Weird that it was presumably fine under EFL rules though).

[Pistolero]

Big day for him and Tyler Morton on Saturday.......hopefully they'll squeeze into the playoff places.....

[Keith Lard]

So do we reckon Fabio is gonna get a chance under Slot?

[cptrios]

So do we reckon Fabio is gonna get a chance under Slot?

I hope that Slot has some time in the preseason to look at all of our loanees/fringe players. I can't say any of them (bar maybe van der Berg) scream 'good enough for us,' but you never know what effect a different approach (and set of eyes) might have.

[Zlen]

So do we reckon Fabio is gonna get a chance under Slot?

Depends if he has heard of this thing called pressing and sees any use in it.

[PeterTheRed ...]

So do we reckon Fabio is gonna get a chance under Slot?

Slot will certainly have a look at him in pre season, with so many players away at the Euros and the Copa ...

[RyanBabel19]

Depends if he has heard of this thing called pressing and sees any use in it.

Anyone got his stats for the defensive side of his game? Never looked a particular weakness any of the times i've seen him play but this talk of how much he doesn't press is often repeated, be interesting to see the actual stats

[Zlen]

Never looked at stats to be honest, just from what I've seen of him recently he looked like one of those 'jogs lightly up there if the ball is with opposition' players.

[stewy17]

Anything could happen under a new manage but I think he showed a pretty bad attitude here last season, and before moving to Hull his time at Leipzig was awful. I'd say the indications aren't good, particularly with the number of players ahead of him. We need to improve on our starting 11 and I don't see how a player who has only ever consistently performed in the Championship does that right now. I can see another loan happening.

[Black Bull Nova]

I hope that Slot has some time in the preseason to look at all of our loanees/fringe players. I can't say any of them (bar maybe van der Berg) scream 'good enough for us,' but you never know what effect a different approach (and set of eyes) might have.

Oh, there's quite a few really

[Snusmumriken]

I hope that Slot has some time in the preseason to look at all of our loanees/fringe players. I can't say any of them (bar maybe van der Berg) scream 'good enough for us,' but you never know what effect a different approach (and set of eyes) might have.

I definitely hope the new coaches have a hard good look at Owen Beck besides Sepp.