Topic: Get out of our country yer gang of fucking bellends. TORIES OUT!

[AndyMuller]

Can’t see her lasting beyond 6 weeks to be honest.

[Elmo!]

They'd both be in Scotland, David Mundell in Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale and John Lamont in Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk.

The Borders, Scotland's shame.

In reality though, those seats would go SNP in that scenario. They aren't that far behind in those seats, it's just the weird results you will see in Scotland with a Tory > Labour swing with these calculators.

[TSC]

I take your pint, but don't be so quick - there's well over two years to go before the next election and Truss has been there for only three weeks!

Really, though, the country cannot afford for the Tories to remain in power any longer. But what mechanism is there to remove them? Are enough of the PCP going to vote down the Government in VoNC?

Think a VONC can be ruled out due to the size of Tory majority.  Only other avenue is losing some sort of vote on the budget.  Think that forces a government resignation.

[Libertine]

The Borders, Scotland's shame.

You guys should adjust the border upon independence.

Then rUK would end up as the United Kingdom of England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Southern Scotland.

[Machae]

How comes Lib Dems are so shit then? shouldnt they just give up. Who would hoover up their votes if they no longer existed?

[Elmo!]

Just imagine, the SNP would be the official opposition with that result, and the Tories wouldn't even get a question for their leader every week at PMQs. 

[west_london_red]

Both in Scotland weirdly enough

 

[Jiminy Cricket]

Think a VONC can be ruled out due to the size of Tory majority.  Only other avenue is losing some sort of vote on the budget.  Think that forces a government resignation.

Is there a vote planned for the mini-budget? Is it required?

[Circa1892]

Astonishing how bad a politician Truss is.

I’m struggling to comprehend how pissed I’ll get on general election night celebrating this shite losing their seats. I might well perish.

[Elmo!]

As I sasid in another reply, it will be a quirk in the way these sites calculate swings. They would go SNP.

[Circa1892]

Also how are that bag of shit party still polling in the 20s.

[Circa1892]

Kwarteng must have the worst approval ratings of any politician in British history? 7% approve 60% disapprove.

Think Corbyn tanked in the -30s after Skripal if I remember right? So he’s twice as unpopular.

[Libertine]

I think the general opinion amongst commentators was that Truss would get some sort of bounce, merely by virtue of not being Johnson and being a new PM that a proportion of people would give the benefit of the doubt (people who probably had not seen her speak before). Probably not that long lived, but a short term bounce nonetheless.

To find herself within days to be in a worse position for the Tories since 2001 is quite extraordinary.

Next weeks conference should be pay per view.

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

  That poll

Fueled by people going Con to Lab and not to Don’t knows/undecided

[Ray K]

That poll

Fueled by people going Con to Lab and not to Don’t knows/undecided

Shy Tories at last realising that Starmer and Reeves aren't going to frighten the horses so it's safe to say Labour rather than Don't Know in opinion polls.

[Wabaloolah]

Also how are that bag of shit party still polling in the 20s.

I've never seen them poll so low, anything under 30 is meltdown territory that would see a whole raft of Tories gone.

It's a hell of a way back from there. Margin of error is usually +/-3% on these polls, so the lead could range from 27 to 39 points.

It really is unprecedented territory here

[lobsterboy]

[west_london_red]

I've never seen them poll so low, anything under 30 is meltdown territory that would see a whole raft of Tories gone.

It's a hell of a way back from there. Margin of error is usually +/-3% on these polls, so the lead could range from 27 to 39 points.

It really is unprecedented territory here

On the flip side, numbers like that mean they won’t call an election anytime soon

[McSquared]

She's getting a pasting from BBC Lancashire on fracking. Hasn't got a scooby.

https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1575389891453648901?s=20&t=sY19s0JNzg0oaKkztw5MYA

Bristol wasn’t any better! 😂

https://mobile.twitter.com/TobyonTV/status/1575393556067393538

[Elmo!]

I've never seen them poll so low, anything under 30 is meltdown territory that would see a whole raft of Tories gone.

It's a hell of a way back from there. Margin of error is usually +/-3% on these polls, so the lead could range from 27 to 39 points.

It really is unprecedented territory here

I think until we see other polls with similar leads we have to treat this one as a massive outlier.

[Elliemental]

Absolutely incredible. I can't believe I'm saying it but the Tories are done for a generation.

We have two more years until a General Election, though. I mean, these polls would be brilliant if there was a GE next week. They'd be out on their arses (every single one of them, by the looks of it). Sadly, that's not the case and a lot can happen in two years.

[Libertine]

I think until we see other polls with similar leads we have to treat this one as a massive outlier.

It's definitely an outlier, but the direction of travel is the same in all. Will probably average out to a 20 point lead, which would be sweet.

[Lucas DuoFlush]

I expect then, with that lead, Starmer probably will not countenance an electoral pact for the next election, or PR in the next parliament.

I still think both of those things should happen, for the sake of unity and because if does not happen then, it might not for a generation or even a lifetime.

Think it actually makes him more likely to offer a PR referendum if he wins an outright majority (esp without Scotland). He can say "hey, we don't need PR ourselves but we think its fair regardless". Its not a vote winner for him to announce prior to an election victory though.

[ljycb]

We have two more years until a General Election, though. I mean, these polls would be brilliant if there was a GE next week. They'd be out on their arses (every single one of them, by the looks of it). Sadly, that's not the case and a lot can happen in two years.

It's just going to be a lot of bad things though isn't it?

[McSquared]

It might be the equipment I have relating to my disability, it needs to be constantly plugged in. The washing machine gets a good hammering. Ive banned the dryer till November.

I binned off my dryer years ago and got one of these. Uses less energy and makes the ironing easier!


 https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMOS-Eezy-Dry-Electric-Clothes-Laundry/dp/B07T3FTX9S/ref=asc_df_B07T3FTX9S/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=345485970201&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4137766842894068022&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046483&hvtargid=pla-768845848681&psc=1

[Gerry Attrick]

She's getting a pasting from BBC Lancashire on fracking. Hasn't got a scooby.

https://twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1575389891453648901?s=20&t=sY19s0JNzg0oaKkztw5MYA

It’s not even fun to listen to. It’s absolutely brutal and toe curling. What you’re listening to is a person who is totally in above their head in every way imaginable and unable to even think on her feet to bullshit and deflect questions away. The silences say every thing while she’s trying to find a way out.

[Felch Aid]

Ian Blackford has said the OBR offered to provide a report on the budget in September but Kwarteng said no.

[Elmo!]

Ian Blackford has said the OBR offered to provide a report on the budget in September but Kwarteng said no.

Mel Stride, the Tory chair of the Treasury Committee said similar on Friday in his respnse to the mini budget,

[TepidT2O]

Couple of clips here in case anyone wants to hear the excruciating. Pauses. That litter. Her awful and unprepared responses.

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2022/09/29/liz-truss-being-schooled-over-fracking-on-local-radio-joyfully-excruciating-listen/

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2022/09/29/liz-truss-getting-brutally-owned-by-radio-stoke-mortgages-incredible/

OMFG…. Just got in from work….


This is genuinely incredible … remarkable

It’s the worst thing I’ve ever heard…

[west_london_red]

Ian Blackford has said the OBR offered to provide a report on the budget in September but Kwarteng said no.

I don’t think that’s a secret to be honest, was reported on at the time.

[Yorkykopite]

Absolutely incredible. I can't believe I'm saying it but the Tories are done for a generation.

Anyone know what this would like like in terms of seats?

Where's the bloke who always posts whenever there's bad news for Labour on the Opinion Poll front? I need to know what he's thinking!

[moondog]

Maybe the plan is to rebuild the economy through everyone buying new TVs? I was ready to put my foot through ours watching her on the news just now.

[Alan_X]

I don’t think that’s a secret to be honest, was reported on at the time.

It’s why he wouldn’t call it a budget even though it was clearly a massive budget.

[west_london_red]

Maybe the plan is to rebuild the economy through everyone buying new TVs? I was ready to put my foot through ours watching her on the news just now.

I’d buy a radio if I were you, will work out a lot cheaper!

[Wilmo]

OMFG…. Just got in from work….


This is genuinely incredible … remarkable

It’s the worst thing I’ve ever heard…

Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Y2uQn_wvc

[damomad]

Will Question Time be worth a watch this evening? Paul Scully should be due to get an absolute roasting from all sides.

[Kenny's Jacket]

OMFG…. Just got in from work….


This is genuinely incredible … remarkable

It’s the worst thing I’ve ever heard…

Someonre has put together a compilation of her "highlights"
https://twitter.com/search?q=truss%20local%20radio&src=typeahead_click

[Red Beret]

I take your pint, but don't be so quick - there's well over two years to go before the next election and Truss has been there for only three weeks!

Really, though, the country cannot afford for the Tories to remain in power any longer. But what mechanism is there to remove them? Are enough of the PCP going to vote down the Government in VoNC?

The only Tories I can think of who might turn are the ones in safe seats who essentially have little to lose in the Tories are kicked out of office. But based on that poll, NO Tories are safe - well bar two anyway.

[Simplexity]

She behaves like how I imagine I would if I woke up one day and someone made me prime minister. Just completely shell shocked and hilariously out of her depth.

[Elmo!]

I take your pint,

Oi, get your own!