Author Topic: Kabak signs (Read 166474 times)

momo22 · « **Reply #360 on:** February 13, 2021, 02:52:14 pm »

Think he looked knackered for the 3rd goal to be honest. Looked quicker in the 1st half.

Clint Eastwood · « **Reply #361 on:** February 13, 2021, 02:58:44 pm »

Thought he was fine until everything fell apart. If Alisson didn't call for that it's his fault. He comes further off his line than Kabak will be used to. He's only had two weeks to get up to speed with this team because FSG dragged their heels for a month.

JG6 · « **Reply #362 on:** February 13, 2021, 02:58:59 pm »

I actually think he did okay until his goalkeeper stitched him up and his team-mates gave up. Looks strong, decent on the ball, won everything in the air and didn’t really get troubled too much by Vardy (who actually sat on Henderson instead).

Think he’ll be fine and he’s only 20 so only going to get better. Feel for him a bit that he’s coming in at a time when everyone else has gone mentally.

McrRed · « **Reply #363 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:09:00 pm »

Yeah. Decent debut

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #364 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:44:31 pm »

Quote from: whtwht on February 13, 2021, 02:41:15 pm

Give Phillips a chance. I've yet to see Kabak have a decent game for Shalke.

You've seen him have a decent game for us though, so how he played for Schalke is a bit irrelevant now.
Let's get behind the lad, ey?

liverbloke · « **Reply #365 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:49:55 pm »

didn't have much to do

...oh yeh except to try and get out of the way before big al flattened him

hard to judge from that game but no worries here

decosabute · « **Reply #366 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:50:46 pm »

I'll reserve judgment on the second goal, as I don't know if, or how clearly, Alisson called for it. But I wasn't 100% sold on him before then either. Agree with some others that he looked sluggish. He definitely needs to have a run though and see.

Think it's incredible that Henderson seems to look better than a lot of guys who've played their whole careers at CB, despite him playing there for the first time in his life 5 weeks ago.

ToneLa · « **Reply #367 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:51:32 pm »

imagine being written off first day on the job

he's 20, plentee of time to go

Coolie High · « **Reply #368 on:** February 13, 2021, 03:54:27 pm »

Quote from: ToneLa on February 13, 2021, 03:51:32 pm

imagine being written off first day on the job

he's 20, plentee of time to go

Agree but he’s got less than 6 months actually, in the general sense of his career, yes plenty of time.

Pistolero · « **Reply #369 on:** February 13, 2021, 04:01:14 pm »

Based on that 90 mins, Nat Phillips can count himself very unlucky not to be involved.

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #370 on:** February 13, 2021, 04:02:22 pm »

Quote from: Bend It Like Aurelio on February 13, 2021, 02:35:42 pm

Hard to say he was at fault for the last two. The last one was a pretty poor giveaway by Salah at the halfway line. One win though for him in 27 games.

Could be the next Bale with a record like that, lets put him in the wing in the next game

ToneLa · « **Reply #371 on:** February 13, 2021, 04:23:09 pm »

didn't see stats for the 2nd half but in the 1st he had one of the highest amount of passes and had 91% accuracy

Reeves · « **Reply #372 on:** February 13, 2021, 04:58:43 pm »

From all the videos I saw I was concerned about his pace and that hasn't changed after today. I don't blame him for that Alisson fuck up, but I don't think he's got the pace for our high line and I'm glad we only have the option to buy. Would rather a faster centre back.

robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #373 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:18:18 pm »

I don’t think pointing out his lack of pace classifies as writing him off but based on what kind of CBs we have and Klopp is known to like, pace is one of the most desired and needed skill.

He may become a very good CB but it’s hard to see where and how he can get faster than he is.

tubby · « **Reply #374 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:30:46 pm »

Quote from: ToneLa on February 13, 2021, 04:23:09 pm

didn't see stats for the 2nd half but in the 1st he had one of the highest amount of passes and had 91% accuracy

Doesn't surprise me, he wasn't under any pressure and had space to work in. Didn't see any penetrative passes or big switches from him, he just kept it simple, which he absolutely should've done on his debut.

Bergersrightwingviews · « **Reply #375 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:39:34 pm »

Looked alright to me. Can't say he seemed to particularly lack pace. Massive fuck up for the goal, but that is mainly on the keeper for me. Alisson should just go straight through him if he's in the way.

As a former CB, I have been booted ten foot in the air by my keeper in those situations and I always accepted that was the right thing to do even if it bloody hurt.

Bangin Them In · « **Reply #376 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:44:21 pm »

The rate at which some can't fuckin wait to slag off our players is staggering, and yet not surprising in the slightest

New guy thrown in (as so many said he should be ready to do) so I suppose we add him to the scrap heap, fucks sake

hide5seek · « **Reply #377 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:51:26 pm »

He's 4th choice. If we were after a 1st choice CB then we needed to spend a lot of money or get lucky with this guy (or the other guy, forgot his name).

farawayred · « **Reply #378 on:** February 13, 2021, 05:57:49 pm »

Quote from: hide5seek on February 13, 2021, 05:51:26 pm

He's 4th choice. If we were after a 1st choice CB then we needed to spend a lot of money or get lucky with this guy (or the other guy, forgot his name).

True that. We should spend £45m on a LB and the same on LB. Both of ours combined are cheap and therefore shit. Makes sense?

Midkroy · « **Reply #379 on:** February 13, 2021, 07:57:11 pm »

Bad first impression. He didn't help the team with his actions. Let's judge him when he settles.

farawayred · « **Reply #380 on:** February 13, 2021, 08:16:15 pm »

Quote from: Midkroy on February 13, 2021, 07:57:11 pm

Bad first impression. He didn't help the team with his actions. Let's judge him when he settles.

What did he do that made a bad impression? I though he did OK.

Midkroy · « **Reply #381 on:** February 13, 2021, 08:50:04 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 13, 2021, 08:16:15 pm

What did he do that made a bad impression? I though he did OK.

He showed a rush in getting into challenges that looked lost in the first place, so he left exposed gaps behind him and in other instances he looked like a passenger.

Clint Eastwood · « **Reply #382 on:** February 13, 2021, 08:53:39 pm »

Quote from: Midkroy on February 13, 2021, 08:50:04 pm

He showed a rush in getting into challenges that looked lost in the first place, so he left exposed gaps behind him and in other instances he looked like a passenger.

Talking shite.

He was on course for a solid, unremarkable debut until it all fell apart, and Alisson wiped him out.

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #383 on:** February 13, 2021, 08:56:44 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 13, 2021, 08:16:15 pm

What did he do that made a bad impression? I though he did OK.

Yep, same here. Thought he was solid. Being booked for something that isn't even a foul is something he's probably going to have to get used to.
We need some continuity at the back so hopefully he gets a run of games now.

Midkroy · « **Reply #384 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:17:28 pm »

Quote from: Clint Eastwood on February 13, 2021, 08:53:39 pm

Talking shite.

He was on course for a solid, unremarkable debut until it all fell apart, and Alisson wiped him out.

The collision with Alisson was just an unfortunate moment, but he looked thoughtless in other moments.

farawayred · « **Reply #385 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:21:52 pm »

Quote from: Midkroy on February 13, 2021, 09:17:28 pm

The collision with Alisson was just an unfortunate moment, but he looked thoughtless in other moments.

Nah, not really. He wasn't Van Dijk-like, but he wasn't a liability. Got beaten once for pace by Vardy, but that's Vardy, then a few minutes later he covered him well at the second attempt.

MBL? · « **Reply #386 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:22:09 pm »

Quote from: Midkroy on February 13, 2021, 09:17:28 pm

The collision with Alisson was just an unfortunate moment, but he looked thoughtless in other moments.

Either him or Alisson were at fault for that.

farawayred · « **Reply #387 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:24:47 pm »

Quote from: MBL? on February 13, 2021, 09:22:09 pm

Either him or Alisson were at fault for that.

Kabak has eyes on the ball he can't look around in such a situation. It's Alisson's job to shout if he wants the ball; there was no shout from him.

MBL? · « **Reply #388 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:28:21 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 13, 2021, 09:24:47 pm

Kabak has eyes on the ball he can't look around in such a situation. It's Alisson's job to shout if he wants the ball; there was no shout from him.

Thats my point. I don’t know if Alisson shouted or not?

farawayred · « **Reply #389 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:32:55 pm »

Quote from: MBL? on February 13, 2021, 09:28:21 pm

Thats my point. I don’t know if Alisson shouted or not?

No, he didn't, even Klopp said so. And for the life of me I don't know why (even just to avoid collision).

MBL? · « **Reply #390 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:35:13 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 13, 2021, 09:32:55 pm

No, he didn't, even Klopp said so. And for the life of me I don't know why (even just to avoid collision).

Didnt know that. That makes it 100% Alisson’s fault.

sidsaurav · « **Reply #391 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:52:56 pm »

If Allison did not shout Kabak did nothing wrong for the second goal. For the third one he should have stayed level with Henderson and that would have put Barnes in an offside position. He made a decent recovery run but could have been better if he started early and ran in a straight line towards the goal. Overall I think he made a decent debut.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #392 on:** February 13, 2021, 09:54:29 pm »

My only criticism is he needs to be aware of players tendency to run in behind off your shoulder. A couple of times he was caught ballwatching today

Fordy · « **Reply #393 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:07:45 pm »

Quote from: Pistolero on February 13, 2021, 04:01:14 pm

Based on that 90 mins, Nat Phillips can count himself very unlucky not to be involved.

Agree. Nat Phillips is massively unlucky. Nat is faster than him.

Samie · « **Reply #394 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:08:50 pm »

Fordy has found another mate in Nat Philips. Fuckin' Hell!

farawayred · « **Reply #395 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:08:51 pm »

Quote from: Fordy on February 13, 2021, 10:07:45 pm

Agree. Nat Phillips is massively unlucky. Nat is faster than him.

Is that true, Fordy, is Nat faster?

Oskar · « **Reply #396 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:11:59 pm »

Nat Phillips is not faster than Kabak.

tubby · « **Reply #397 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:19:39 pm »

Phillips might be quicker in a 100 metre sprint but over a short distance (which is what really matters in football), Kabak already looks quicker.

stockdam · « **Reply #398 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:28:28 pm »

He did ok today. He will need time to adapt to our style.

MdArshad · « **Reply #399 on:** February 13, 2021, 10:42:13 pm »

It seems people are writing him off already after 90 minutes. Amazing.