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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7080 on: May 21, 2024, 09:53:38 pm »
He doesn't need 51%, not even close.  The electoral college means you can have a multiple million loss in the popular vote, but still win the Presidency.  And it, by the nature of the States that skew this, means it is *always* a right winger who this can happen to.  That is the real problem with American Democracy - and whenever you bring it up to those on the right, who the EV favours, they use the argument "oh, but we are not a Democracy, we are a Republic"
Indeed. At first glance, it looks like Biden stomped him in 2020. He won by over 7 million votes, a 4.5% margin of victory, and by a score of 306 to 232 in the EC. Yet, he won 4 states by less than 1.2%, and 6 states by less than 3%. If just 80,000 people in four specific areas voted for Trump instead of Biden, he would have won the election! By contrast, Trump only won one state by less than 3%.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7081 on: May 21, 2024, 11:05:48 pm »
they need to convince every single jury member… including the one who gets his news from truth social. 

I doubt we'd see a unanimous verdict on the Earth not being flat :(
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7082 on: May 21, 2024, 11:20:25 pm »
I doubt we'd see a unanimous verdict on the Earth not being flat :(
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7083 on: May 22, 2024, 12:13:17 am »
Virtually zero chance he get's convicted on anything here. Which will only add to 'Witch Hunt' statements.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7085 on: May 22, 2024, 02:48:03 am »
Virtually zero chance he get's convicted on anything here. Which will only add to 'Witch Hunt' statements.

Guilty => witch hunt
Not Guilty => witch hunt
Mistrial => witch hunt

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7086 on: May 22, 2024, 09:43:39 am »
Trump looked far too relaxed, snoring and farting his way through his trial.
I think Don Pornleone has nobbled the jury.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7087 on: May 22, 2024, 03:41:45 pm »
I think he’s a demented old fuck in very obvious cognitive decline.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7089 on: May 23, 2024, 01:27:15 am »
"Birdbrain" Hayley now voting for Trump. Obviously, making sure she's got the MAGA GOP crowd in her corner for when she throws her hat in the ring for a future run at being POTUS.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7090 on: May 23, 2024, 09:13:04 pm »
Anyone else watched this? Fascinating and enlightening:

https://www.youtube.com/live/IPo1Z54syJE?si=gY5gZtjDbty6pU_X
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7091 on: May 23, 2024, 10:04:45 pm »
"Birdbrain" Hayley now voting for Trump. Obviously, making sure she's got the MAGA GOP crowd in her corner for when she throws her hat in the ring for a future run at being POTUS.
She's very cynical. She's also an idiot.

She had cornered a very significant segment of GOP voters. They were continuing to vote for her in primaries, even though she had dropped out. Many (most?) of them will now have a WTF moment and might just jump ship and vote Biden.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7092 on: May 23, 2024, 10:12:06 pm »
Just following the playbook of Ted "My dad killed JFK" Cruz, "Little" Marco Rubio and probably a shitload of others...

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7093 on: May 23, 2024, 10:16:18 pm »
Is that bad tactics? A Trump win will mean the Dems get up again in 2028 after America has another "did nazi that coming" moment of awakening, and if the Dems run someone under 70 and sane then they'd probably hold the White House until 2036, by which time Haley will be too old to be a female president (they're ready, not THAT ready). So if Haley wants to be president, it's best for her that Biden wins and America does it's usual flip flop in 2028.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7094 on: May 23, 2024, 11:12:31 pm »
She's very cynical. She's also an idiot.

She had cornered a very significant segment of GOP voters. They were continuing to vote for her in primaries, even though she had dropped out. Many (most?) of them will now have a WTF moment and might just jump ship and vote Biden.
CNN showed some interviews with her supporters today, every one of them said that is exactly what they plan to do.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7095 on: May 23, 2024, 11:20:07 pm »
CNN showed some interviews with her supporters today, every one of them said that is exactly what they plan to do.
Hahaha! Brilliant! Them being pissed off (betrayed) by Haley might just have made all the difference. Before, they might have just abstained or again wrote-in Haley. Not now. What a politician!
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7096 on: May 23, 2024, 11:26:54 pm »
Is that bad tactics? A Trump win will mean the Dems get up again in 2028 after America has another "did nazi that coming" moment of awakening, and if the Dems run someone under 70 and sane then they'd probably hold the White House until 2036, by which time Haley will be too old to be a female president (they're ready, not THAT ready). So if Haley wants to be president, it's best for her that Biden wins and America does it's usual flip flop in 2028.

The thing is, there is no "non-Trump" Republican party anymore. They hounded out the few sane conservatives who are anti-Trump like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney. So, for Hayley to get anywhere in that party she needs to align herself with the nutters. The question is what happens, if Trump croaks in the next few years. Can the "normal" Republicans take back their party? I'm not so sure about that in the short to medium term. Hayley seems very career driven and for her to get anywhere in politics she needs to be on the good side of the Republican party which at the moment (and in the forseeable future) is run by the Trump-nutters.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7098 on: May 24, 2024, 10:41:33 am »
Is that bad tactics? A Trump win will mean the Dems get up again in 2028 after America has another "did nazi that coming" moment

You mean like Germany voted Hitler out?

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7099 on: May 26, 2024, 05:27:58 am »
Not really talking himself up @ 3:15

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7100 on: May 26, 2024, 06:06:44 pm »
Not really talking himself up @ 3:15

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Saw this earlier, why do the Trump secret service agents have the power to take over security at a Libertarian event and confiscate their rubber chickens ffs! Not to mention allowing reserved seats to be stolen by the MAGA infiltrators.
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The whole set up over there seems to be crackers in allowing him to hijack these sorts of events, looks like its back fired this time.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7101 on: May 27, 2024, 06:19:26 pm »
Libertarians President pick looks a dodgy little fuck,https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c722wn4xjl2o.I guess that goes with the territory with them of course.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7104 on: May 28, 2024, 05:13:33 am »
Way to court those Michigan Arab voters, Donny.

If the Dems lose the election because of Gaza, the Genocide Joe bleaters deserve everything that's coming to them.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7105 on: May 28, 2024, 08:06:52 am »
Trump pledges to crush Palestinian protesters if elected

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-palestine-protests-deport-b2552218.html
Yeah. But some of our American Democratic Party (apparent) supporter friends here are more focused on seeing Biden fail to become President. Biden (or any American President) is not going to favour Hamas over Israel. (Which is what many of his detractors (from the 'left') are effectively (or overtly) would like to see.)

To repeat my comments from a few days ago, it is a binary choice. If you do not have a 'favourite' option, pick your 'least bad' option. Because if Trump becomes President again, things are going to get a whole lot worse for the Gazans.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7107 on: May 29, 2024, 05:25:31 am »
Not wanting to comment on the events that are currently happening. However what direction could this potentially push Hayley voters in the upcoming election?


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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7108 on: May 29, 2024, 05:56:13 am »
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7109 on: May 29, 2024, 06:00:44 am »
I think she’s endorsed Trump already. I assume she’s confirming that with this. The USA is different isn’t it. This could help the republicans in a way it never would a UK party. Like more guns or less freedom of choice

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7110 on: May 29, 2024, 11:40:14 am »
Sounds like he’s going to get off to me..
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7111 on: May 29, 2024, 11:55:26 am »
Sounds like he’s going to get off to me..
Why do you say that? It could be hung, because this would require only one juror to vote for acquittal. But, 'get off'? Or maybe you mean hung too - I suppose that is 'getting off' from Trump's perspective.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7112 on: May 29, 2024, 01:06:25 pm »
Sounds like he’s going to get off to me..
As soon as poster on here enlightened me to it needing a unanimous decision, I felt that was always going to be the case.
And given his power to control spin he'll paint it as huge victory in the biggest court case ever.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7113 on: May 29, 2024, 01:34:54 pm »
As soon as poster on here enlightened me to it needing a unanimous decision, I felt that was always going to be the case.
And given his power to control spin he'll paint it as huge victory in the biggest court case ever.

Should he be (arguably unlikely) found guilty he’ll continue to embark on a mega ‘witch-hunt’ campaign anyway.

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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7114 on: May 29, 2024, 01:37:45 pm »
Not wanting to comment on the events that are currently happening. However what direction could this potentially push Hayley voters in the upcoming election?

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Haley voters are more likely to support this kind of action in all likelihood.  They'd probably be fine with Trump on foreign policy.

She's very conservative and a hawk but only looks moderate relative to the likes of Trump, MTG, etc.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7115 on: May 29, 2024, 01:43:21 pm »
Haley voters are more likely to support this kind of action in all likelihood.  They'd probably be fine with Trump on foreign policy.

She's very conservative and a hawk but only looks moderate relative to the likes of Trump, MTG, etc.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7116 on: May 29, 2024, 03:06:46 pm »
Sounds like he’s going to get off to me..

I think he'll be found guilty.*


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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7117 on: May 29, 2024, 03:13:19 pm »
Why do you say that? It could be hung, because this would require only one juror to vote for acquittal. But, 'get off'? Or maybe you mean hung too - I suppose that is 'getting off' from Trump's perspective.
Get off as in not be found guilty.

They’ve got to show that not only did Cohen pay Stormy, but they’ve also got to prove that he did so at Trump’s behest.

Now, we have Cohen’s word that he did tell him too (and pretty much only that?), but given Cohen’s previous record for being a self confessed liar and that he’s said quite publicly that he wants Trump in gaol, I think it’s quite a big ask for all of a jury to convict him behind reasonable doubt. Neither Cohen or Daniels seem high quality witnesses to me.  I know that the prosecution claimed that this was the very reason why Trump had picked Cohen for the job, but it didn’t seem that good an argument to me as it can work both ways

I mean does it matter anyway? He’s been found culpable of rape and none of them give two shits. 
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7118 on: May 29, 2024, 03:14:10 pm »
I think he'll be found guilty.*


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Me too. 

But he won't see any jail time.
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Re: Sexual Abuser Donald Trump Indicted
« Reply #7119 on: May 29, 2024, 03:14:14 pm »
I think he'll be found guilty.*


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* I might be hedging as I want him convicted and fear the worst.
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