Topic: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD

[Red Cactii]

Are they actually close to signing Casemiro or are we still at the rumour stage?

Per MARCA: needs to pass a medical but deal is agreed for 71m€, Casemiro getting a 5yr deal worth 20m€/season which doubles his salary.

[afc tukrish]

when United come sniffing for Gakpo

really bad porn film, that...

[Caston]

Manchester United progressing very quickly in signing Casemiro, @TheAthleticUK understands. Initial €60m + further €10m. A four year contract, with option of a fifth year.

Casemiro to be among #mufc’s highest earners, with exception of Cristiano Ronaldo. However, @TheAthleticUK understands that while he will earn slightly more than at Madrid, contract heavily incentivised on #mufc being in Champions League in future seasons

[disgraced cake]

Retirement league.

[Lastrador]

Retirement league.

So United is like the new MLS?

[SamLad]

Manchester United progressing very quickly in signing Casemiro, @TheAthleticUK understands. Initial €60m + further €10m. A four year contract, with option of a fifth year.

Casemiro to be among #mufc’s highest earners, with exception of Cristiano Ronaldo. However, @TheAthleticUK understands that while he will earn slightly more than at Madrid, contract heavily incentivised on #mufc being in Champions League in future seasons

and he's gonna sign it?  silly man ....

[Gifted Right Foot]

lol bloody hell they are trying for everyone.  Is Sarr to Palace confirmed?  Surprised they haven't swooped in for him

[newterp]

Hahahahaha 71m for a 30 yr old Casemiro.

[thegoodfella]

Manchester United progressing very quickly in signing Casemiro, @TheAthleticUK understands. Initial €60m + further €10m. A four year contract, with option of a fifth year.

Err would've been better to keep Matic around.

[classycarra]

Manchester United progressing very quickly in signing Casemiro, @TheAthleticUK understands. Initial €60m + further €10m. A four year contract, with option of a fifth year.

Casemiro to be among #mufc’s highest earners, with exception of Cristiano Ronaldo. However, @TheAthleticUK understands that while he will earn slightly more than at Madrid, contract heavily incentivised on #mufc being in Champions League in future seasons

At this point I'm wondering if United just left the conference call phone on after a talk with someone at the Athletic. It's either that, or they're contacting them the minute they speak to clubs and agents

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

The Brazil international had initially decided not to leave Madrid with the season having already begun. However, sources have told ESPN that Casemiro is gradually changing his mind because United offers him a much higher salary than he receives at Madrid.

From ESPN.

[Crosby Nick]

From ESPN.

The new Chinese League.

[plura]

How much will they have spent this season with Casemiro?

[elsewhere]

Is Casemiro Luke Shaw level fat or just big boned?

[Tobelius]

Per MARCA: needs to pass a medical but deal is agreed for 71m€, Casemiro getting a 5yr deal worth 20m€/season which doubles his salary.

Wow,that's an incredible deal for everyone except United.

[Crosby Nick]

Is Casemiro Luke Shaw level fat or just big boned?

Just weirdly fat faced isn’t he? Like he’s never quite recovered from a dose of Mumps.

[elsewhere]

Just weirdly fat faced isn’t he? Like he’s never quite recovered from a dose of Mumps.

He looks like love child of Charles Barkley and Erik Cartman but kudos to him, he made a good career thus far.

[Mozology]

Sixty million transfer fee, plus 300k wages, Casemiro's four year deal will cost well over 120 million. 

And the Glazers don't spend any money apparently 

And that's not even including any agent's fee or signing on fee which usually happen with deals of this size.

[Sheer Magnetism]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/19/chelsea-complete-12m-casadei-signing-for-inter-on-six-year-deal-football

Chelsea paying £12 million for a 19-year old Italian midfielder with a grand total of zero first team appearances. I can't get over the level of stupidity necessary for a club with the best youth system in the country to continually let their prospects go for next to nothing while spending top dollar on other people's.

[Kopenhagen]

Manchester United progressing very quickly in signing Casemiro, @TheAthleticUK understands. Initial €60m + further €10m. A four year contract, with option of a fifth year.

Casemiro to be among #mufc’s highest earners, with exception of Cristiano Ronaldo. However, @TheAthleticUK understands that while he will earn slightly more than at Madrid, contract heavily incentivised on #mufc being in Champions League in future seasons

Crazy fee. Look at what we paid for Thiago in comparison, whose ability is 20x that of hatchet man Casemiro.

[disgraced cake]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/19/chelsea-complete-12m-casadei-signing-for-inter-on-six-year-deal-football

Chelsea paying £12 million for a 19-year old Italian midfielder with a grand total of zero first team appearances. I can't get over the level of stupidity necessary for a club with the best youth system in the country to continually let their prospects go for next to nothing while spending top dollar on other people's.

They make signings like this all the time which just go completely unnoticed for the most part. They've just bought a goalkeeper from Chicago, an 18 year old and he was over 10 million. He's doomed to spend 6 years on loan and never make an appearance for the first team. The one they've just bought from Villa, supposedly highly rated, will be exactly the same.

Have to give it to them this time though, 'Cesare Casadei' is a superb name

[Skeeve]

Final numbers for Morgan Gibbs-White transfer from Wolverhampton Wanderers to Nottingham Forest:

£25m payment up front & guaranteed

£7-10m to follow in likely add-ons

The remainder is more difficult to achieve but can rise up to maximum of £42.5m

BBC reporting that deal as £25m plus add-ons, weird how the media reported one of our signings differently. 

[Original]

They make signings like this all the time which just go completely unnoticed for the most part. They've just bought a goalkeeper from Chicago, an 18 year old and he was over 10 million. He's doomed to spend 6 years on loan and never make an appearance for the first team. The one they've just bought from Villa, supposedly highly rated, will be exactly the same.

Have to give it to them this time though, 'Cesare Casadei' is a superb name

It is isn't it, screams Pro evo master league player

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

Sixty million transfer fee, plus 300k wages, Casemiro's four year deal will cost well over 120 million. 

And the Glazers don't spend any money apparently 

And that's not even including any agent's fee or signing on fee which usually happen with deals of this size.

On the other hand, it’s hilarious that the only way they can buy players now is to offer wages well above market. Imagine they fall into that Barcelona sized hole eventually.

[Andypandimonium]

Wait until union bashing Jim takes over...they'll be paying washed up stars £1M per week. Look forward to them still getting tonked by Brentford.

[disgraced cake]

@David_Ornstein
🚨 Fulham in advanced talks to sign Neal Maupay from Brighton in £15m deal. Still work needed so not done, but discussions advancing towards agreement. #FFC now firm favourites for 26yo striker ahead of Nottingham Forest & Everton
@TheAthleticUK

[lollysportswasher]

I hate United but Casemiro is a world class DM and a huge loss for Madrid.

[Kopenhagen]

I hate United but Casemiro is a world class DM and a huge loss for Madrid.

He's no loss to them with Camavinga and Tchouameni in reserve and they've done well to flog him.

He'll bomb at United.

[disgraced cake]

He's no loss to them with Camavinga and Tchouameni in reserve and they've done well to flog him.

He'll bomb at United.

I just don't see how he'll succeed there - whatever the benchmark of succeeding there is. Varane basically killed off his career by joining them, money obviously playing a big factor, and Casemiro looks to be doing the same. You can talk about a 'new challenge' all you want but ultimately money talks. They've both won fucking loads so I'm sure they can stomach not winning much more at this stage of their careers, especially when you're going to be earning upwards of 20 million a year.

They surely won't finish in a top 4 spot in the league, so I think their best bet this season is trying to win the Europa League. Their short term future is still looking pretty ominous though, the likes of De Gea, Maguire, Varane, Shaw, Ronaldo etc are all going to have to be replaced soon, due to age/shitness. Beyond that you've got all your overpriced, overpaid dross like Sancho, Fernandes and so on.

[Kopenhagen]

I just don't see how he'll succeed there - whatever the benchmark of succeeding there is. Varane basically killed off his career by joining them, money obviously playing a big factor, and Casemiro looks to be doing the same. You can talk about a 'new challenge' all you want but ultimately money talks. They've both won fucking loads so I'm sure they can stomach not winning much more at this stage of their careers, especially when you're going to be earning upwards of 20 million a year.

They surely won't finish in a top 4 spot in the league, so I think their best bet this season is trying to win the Europa League. Their short term future is still looking pretty ominous though, the likes of De Gea, Maguire, Varane, Shaw, Ronaldo etc are all going to have to be replaced soon, due to age/shitness. Beyond that you've got all your overpriced, overpaid dross like Sancho, Fernandes and so on.

Agreed. Honestly, it's quite shocking that they still proceed with these transfers and continue to get burned by them. Anyone else would have learned their lesson during the Van Gaal era. It's staggering how this "new era" under Ten Hag is just another repeat of the same mistakes. It's quite clear they really have no actual targets or strategy, considering how their targets are simply Ajax players and Galaticos past their best.

[Dave McCoy]

So reported fee and wages for Casemiro are £125m for his age 30-33 seasons. Must be nice to be able to just set money on fire at your leisure.

[Fromola]

I just don't see how he'll succeed there - whatever the benchmark of succeeding there is. Varane basically killed off his career by joining them, money obviously playing a big factor, and Casemiro looks to be doing the same. You can talk about a 'new challenge' all you want but ultimately money talks. They've both won fucking loads so I'm sure they can stomach not winning much more at this stage of their careers, especially when you're going to be earning upwards of 20 million a year.

They surely won't finish in a top 4 spot in the league, so I think their best bet this season is trying to win the Europa League. Their short term future is still looking pretty ominous though, the likes of De Gea, Maguire, Varane, Shaw, Ronaldo etc are all going to have to be replaced soon, due to age/shitness. Beyond that you've got all your overpriced, overpaid dross like Sancho, Fernandes and so on.

It reminds me of Schweinsteiger going there. Will the hunger still be there at 30 after winning everything? Especially in a rotten culture like that dressing room.

It'll probably help them more in Europe though but they should win the Europa League anyway, that's a garbage tournament these days in terms of quality teams.

[The North Bank]

It reminds me of Schweinsteiger going there. Will the hunger still be there at 30 after winning everything? Especially in a rotten culture like that dressing room.

It'll probably help them more in Europe though but they should win the Europa League anyway, that's a garbage tournament these days in terms of quality teams.

United win Europa league ? Me don’t fink so fam

[Haggis36]

He's obviously been an excellent player for Madrid for a very long time, but I think there are big questions about how he'll fit into that United side - I do think he'll improve them a decent amount, but not enough to justify those wages, and from a squad-building perspective it's another baffling decision.

Though I will say it's funny how everyone keeps highlighting his age as if he's some washed up waster at the end of his career - he's younger than most of our midfielders and only 18 months older than Fabinho...

[disgraced cake]

He's obviously been an excellent player for Madrid for a very long time, but I think there are big questions about how he'll fit into that United side - I do think he'll improve them a decent amount, but not enough to justify those wages, and from a squad-building perspective it's another baffling decision.

Though I will say it's funny how everyone keeps highlighting his age as if he's some washed up waster at the end of his career - he's younger than most of our midfielders and only 18 months older than Fabinho...

I don't think anybody expects his legs to fall off just because he's 30, it's just a bomb to drop on somebody his age. Great player but I know I'd wince a bit if Liverpool started dropping them sums on players who's best years are (probably) behind them. Thiago was getting on and injury prone but his fee wasn't really extortionate.

Varane wasn't particularly 'old' by any means either, but he's another one who's had his best years and it looks pretty clear he doesn't have much to offer them.

[rocco]

Sixty million transfer fee, plus 300k wages, Casemiro's four year deal will cost well over 120 million. 

And the Glazers don't spend any money apparently 

And that's not even including any agent's fee or signing on fee which usually happen with deals of this size.

What about signing on fee plus Agents fee

[Haggis36]

I don't think anybody expects his legs to fall off just because he's 30, it's just a bomb to drop on somebody his age. Great player but I know I'd wince a bit if Liverpool started dropping them sums on players who's best years are (probably) behind them. Thiago was getting on and injury prone but his fee wasn't really extortionate.

Varane wasn't particularly 'old' by any means either, but he's another one who's had his best years and it looks pretty clear he doesn't have much to offer them.

Oh don't disagree, it's an absolutely mental choice for the money/wages. But he is a top class player, in his "prime" years (according to most on here anyway) and comes with enormous experience, pedigree and having won just about everything there is to win in the game. For every Varane, I'd raise you a Silva or a Thiago.

United are one of the few clubs who can afford, financially at least, to make short-term decisions in the market - they'll still manage to find another £100m and £300k a week to throw at a new shiny toy each summer. And whilst this signing still seems to indicate there is no cohesive long-term squad planning at Old Trafford, one of their most immediate issues is not enough quality, and Casemiro is miles better than anyone they have in midfield.

[newterp]

Oh don't disagree, it's an absolutely mental choice for the money/wages. But he is a top class player, in his "prime" years (according to most on here anyway) and comes with enormous experience, pedigree and having won just about everything there is to win in the game. For every Varane, I'd raise you a Silva or a Thiago.

United are one of the few clubs who can afford, financially at least, to make short-term decisions in the market - they'll still manage to find another £100m and £300k a week to throw at a new shiny toy each summer. And whilst this signing still seems to indicate there is no cohesive long-term squad planning at Old Trafford, one of their most immediate issues is not enough quality, and Casemiro is miles better than anyone they have in midfield.

He's not in his prime for a midfielder that is going to be asked to cover tons of ground with no other world class players to support him.

[Phineus]

Casemiro is for sure a great player in the right system, the perfect foil for Modric and Kroos.

He does his best work off the ball though, which tbf is something Utd do need in their midfield, but he’s such a different profile from what their manager has so far had in midfield in his system that it clearly has no long term thinking here.

Madrid don’t lose players in their prime … only one I can maybe remember is Robben? That’s a huge contract for a player who’s not going to get better and who’s game relies on physicality as his physicality will naturally wane.

[Haggis36]

He's not in his prime for a midfielder that is going to be asked to cover tons of ground with no other world class players to support him.

Because we famously don't ask 31 year-old Thiago, 32 year-old Henderson, 36 year-old Milner and 28 year-old Fabinho to cover lots of ground with very limited support...?