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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #13320 on: August 16, 2022, 10:37:54 am »
Personal terms agreed and he accepted Wolves according to Romano.


Great signing all around, ridiculous we haven't signed him ourselves when we're in such dire need of quality midfielder.

Is it though? I'm fully on board the 'sign a midfielder' train, but I find it hard to get vexed when a specific player - who've we no reason to believe was a target - goes elsewhere. I'm sure he's quality, but he might just not be the type we wanted to sign. I mean, we know we wanted Tchouameni so presumably it's that type we're after and from what I've read, Nunes looks much more forward-thinking.

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« Reply #13321 on: August 16, 2022, 10:52:42 am »
Wouldn't be surprised if he'll have a release clause inserted with all the noise about holding out for a CL club, if he storms the league this season, someone will get him for £70 million or something and have a league ready made player for less than Bellingham

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« Reply #13322 on: August 16, 2022, 10:54:01 am »
Atleti fans statement rejecting the signing of Ronaldo was a lovely read  ;D

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #13323 on: August 16, 2022, 10:54:14 am »
Looks like Leicester have a situation with Fofana. They really do squeeze teams by the bollocks when they want one of their operators. Perfectly within their rights but agents should be a bit smarter when dealing with Leicester. I'd want a cast iron clause in there before I got a talented player within 10 miles of them.

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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #13324 on: August 16, 2022, 11:09:52 am »
Looks like Leicester have a situation with Fofana. They really do squeeze teams by the bollocks when they want one of their operators. Perfectly within their rights but agents should be a bit smarter when dealing with Leicester. I'd want a cast iron clause in there before I got a talented player within 10 miles of them.

Talented youngsters need to start insisting on buyout clauses to be honest.

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« Reply #13325 on: August 16, 2022, 11:15:00 am »
Think clauses will become increasingly common in that tier below the top six. The growing PL power in terms of income means that the likes of West Ham, Everton, Leicester etc can demand huge money for their best players, and Anthony Gordon.

Although it's also strange in a way, because both Leicester and Everton are in pretty poor financial situations at the moment, so getting huge fees for their players is quite a feat.

Works both ways, because in years gone by those clubs further down the league were picking up your Mane types relatively cheaply, so flipping them after a couple of years for £35m was good profit. Now they're spending that in the first place, which means a 'good fee' is almost always £50m, unless there's a contract which has been rundown.

Anyway, won't be the case with Nunes at Wolves. He's a Mendes client, so if in a year he's got attention from the top six he'll just tell Wolves that he's moving, like happened with Jota.
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Re: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #13326 on: August 16, 2022, 11:21:04 am »
They spent nearly £40 million on him, as a 19 year old with about 30 senior games under his belt. If they had inserted a buyout clause when they signed him I wouldn't have thought it'd be far off what they seem to be asking for. Its not like he was a bargain, they spent a shitload on him and understandably want to make a good profit considering how he's progressed with them.

And lets be real....if there is one club on this planet who have absolutely no right to complain about exaggerated player prices, its Chelsea. Its literally their fault from 17/18 years ago that prices have got to where they are now. They've just spent £60 million on a decent left-back, you dont get to do that and then whinge that you're being priced out of a move for someone else who is much younger and has a much higher ceiling.
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« Reply #13327 on: August 16, 2022, 11:23:33 am »
If players stop moving to mid teir clubs unless there's a low release clause for their next move then football is exponentially more fucked than it is already
The only way the West Ham's, Leicesters, Wolves' etc can even hope to sort of nearly compete is to sell players to the big clubs for large fees.
If you take this away the gap between super rich and the rest will increase even further and faster (e.g Germany and Spain)

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« Reply #13328 on: August 16, 2022, 12:44:30 pm »
Still disappointed it seems we won't be signing a midfielder this summer but not too bothered about Nunes going elsewhere, I think there's plenty of better midfielders around, I just think we'll be waiting until summer 2023 for (at least) one
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« Reply #13329 on: August 16, 2022, 12:57:06 pm »
A move for Cunha for the Mancs (at big money too) would reek of desperation IMO. He's not got a good scoring record and couldn't really make a mark in Germany.
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« Reply #13330 on: August 16, 2022, 12:59:07 pm »
Still disappointed it seems we won't be signing a midfielder this summer but not too bothered about Nunes going elsewhere, I think there's plenty of better midfielders around, I just think we'll be waiting until summer 2023 for (at least) one

Yeah I think so too we'll go with what we have.

Next season Morton could be useful squad player if he has a good loan at Blackburn.

Be interesting to see who we target/sign as you'd think one will arrive not counting on two/three though 😎

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« Reply #13331 on: August 16, 2022, 01:10:21 pm »
Yeah I think so too we'll go with what we have.

Next season Morton could be useful squad player if he has a good loan at Blackburn.

Be interesting to see who we target/sign as you'd think one will arrive not counting on two/three though 😎

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just one, especially if we end up with an expensive signing, someone like Bellingham for example.

That said, with Milner and Chamberlain surely leaving, and there being a very good chance Keita may do the same, I can't imagine one would be enough, not with Thiago being injury prone himself and reaching the final year of a contract I wouldn't be surprised if we also didn't extend beyond 2024. Henderson another who is getting on his career and minutes may need to be managed there.

I do have good hopes for Elliot/Jones/Carvalho who have a lot to contribute between them IMO, and hopefully as you say Morton could have a place here, maybe even Bajcetic if he kicks on in the unders. He's already been on the bench for both games this season though surely wouldn't have been with a full selection.
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« Reply #13332 on: August 16, 2022, 01:24:41 pm »
Hard to predict a year out. Yes, we’re going to create room with the surely certain departures of Milner and Ox, and the potential exit of Naby. But at the same time, in a year we could be saying that Elliott and/or Jones have shot us the hierarchy, or Bajcetic could be a permanent part of the first team setup.

You’d still expect two additions would be required though. Think it’s becoming clear that one has to be a dominant defensive-minded player who can play as an 8 and maybe as a 6. Bellingham would probably come as more forward-looking, even if long term I think he’d be a proper CM for us.

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« Reply #13333 on: August 16, 2022, 03:54:22 pm »
Still 16 days of the transfer window to go......

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« Reply #13334 on: August 16, 2022, 04:10:37 pm »
Still 16 days of the transfer window to go......

True.

I think we might be done in buys and sales now, thought Sepp or Nat would go but now i'd guess we not let them till Jan.

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« Reply #13335 on: August 16, 2022, 04:38:30 pm »
A move for Cunha for the Mancs (at big money too) would reek of desperation IMO. He's not got a good scoring record and couldn't really make a mark in Germany.
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« Reply #13336 on: August 16, 2022, 04:41:59 pm »
He reject them anyway

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« Reply #13337 on: August 16, 2022, 04:46:34 pm »
Saw United being linked to Caicedo at Brighton, he's one I think we might have on our radar but he's probably not played enough for the scouts to be sure on him.

Also apparently Beşiktaş want Dele Alli, with Everton willing to let the player decide on his future - they'll be absolutely desperate for him to say yes to it.

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« Reply #13338 on: August 16, 2022, 04:59:28 pm »
What happened with James Maddison going to Spurs or Newcastle. Attack minded goal scoring midfielder , English and I reckon would be exactly what we need long term replacment for our midfield.

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« Reply #13339 on: August 16, 2022, 05:06:27 pm »
What happened with James Maddison going to Spurs or Newcastle. Attack minded goal scoring midfielder , English and I reckon would be exactly what we need long term replacment for our midfield.
If Maddison's the answer we're definitely asking the wrong questions. He's mediocre at best for me.

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« Reply #13340 on: August 16, 2022, 05:07:53 pm »
What happened with James Maddison going to Spurs or Newcastle. Attack minded goal scoring midfielder , English and I reckon would be exactly what we need long term replacment for our midfield.

Good player but not good enough or athletic enough for our midfield, IMO.

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« Reply #13341 on: August 16, 2022, 05:09:51 pm »
I definitely don't think Maddison is the answer for Liverpool but would be a good signing for many teams. He's scored 30 odd over the last two seasons with Leicester which is quite good for an attacking midfielder. He'd be an improvement on what the likes of Newcastle have but he could do a bit better than them IMO.

Not sure what his contract situation is but I've seen a price of 50 million quoted for him a couple of times. I think Leicester would be within their rights to ask for more given the insane amount Grealish went for.
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« Reply #13342 on: August 16, 2022, 05:26:43 pm »
Good player but not good enough or athletic enough for our midfield, IMO.

Had a rough start to last season but has been on fire for about 10 months now.
Yeah, he's playing in the wrong era. Not fast or clinical enough to be a forward, doesn't have the profile to play as an 8.
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« Reply #13343 on: August 16, 2022, 05:29:25 pm »
Agreed doesnt cover as much ground as our midfielders but in terms of getting us goals from midfield and corners and stuff hes good enough.

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« Reply #13344 on: August 16, 2022, 05:32:04 pm »
When a games drifting away and we need a goal I just dont see Fab Milner or Henderson getting us a goal. This guy has a good ratio and also the amount of times our corners look go nowhere.

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« Reply #13345 on: August 16, 2022, 06:05:05 pm »
Good player but not good enough or athletic enough for our midfield, IMO.

Had a rough start to last season but has been on fire for about 10 months now.

Maddison's a good player but he's not the profile of player we need when we've already got Jones, Elliott and Carvalho. He's also priced at 60 million BEFORE Chelsea spend over 80 on Fofana.

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« Reply #13346 on: August 16, 2022, 06:48:00 pm »
I wouldn't actually call Maddison a midfielder, in another era he'd be a traditional 10. He's just not what we need at all.

Are Everton really going to fuck up this Gordon sale? Either the PL would prevent them from spending the money they get or they're smoking something is all I can figure for why this isn't done.

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« Reply #13347 on: August 16, 2022, 06:53:19 pm »
Forest buying 15 and maybe another in Aouar is crazy. Imagine trying to bed in that many players?!

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« Reply #13348 on: August 16, 2022, 06:54:39 pm »
You've missed out 2, they've bought 17 so far.  ;D

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« Reply #13349 on: August 16, 2022, 06:58:13 pm »
You've missed out 2, they've bought 17 so far.  ;D

Completely lost track haha. 🙃🤣
That is truly bonkers though.

Cooper must have 0 idea about half of his first 11. He seems a good manager but that is an overload

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« Reply #13350 on: August 16, 2022, 07:16:44 pm »
To be fair to them they've lost 9 players who've gone back to their parent club or have been released. So they needed to not only get back to  that number but also beef up their squad for the Premier League.

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« Reply #13351 on: August 16, 2022, 07:24:54 pm »
Everton should drive Gordon to Chelsea for that much money is insane.

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« Reply #13352 on: August 16, 2022, 07:59:56 pm »
Saw United being linked to Caicedo at Brighton, he's one I think we might have on our radar but he's probably not played enough for the scouts to be sure on him.

Also apparently Beşiktaş want Dele Alli, with Everton willing to let the player decide on his future - they'll be absolutely desperate for him to say yes to it.
He's too young. They'd eat him up.

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« Reply #13353 on: August 16, 2022, 08:02:08 pm »
Dele Alli potentially leaving Everton is quite funny really. Everton are usually the ones being duped but they’ve both duped themselves by signing him and Spurs by loading most of his fee into ridiculously easily achievable add-ons that are yet to be achieved.

It will leave Spurs out of pocket and Everton looking as bemusingly inept as they have done for some years now.

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« Reply #13354 on: August 16, 2022, 08:10:09 pm »
Dele Alli potentially leaving Everton is quite funny really. Everton are usually the ones being duped but they’ve both duped themselves by signing him and Spurs by loading most of his fee into ridiculously easily achievable add-ons that are yet to be achieved.

It will leave Spurs out of pocket and Everton looking as bemusingly inept as they have done for some years now.

Still think Klopp at the right time would’ve recovered Alli’s career. Now I think it’s too late.
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« Reply #13355 on: August 16, 2022, 08:18:42 pm »
What happened to him?
Hard to say, everything would be speculative; once he’d made it he got lazy, believed the hype about himself, when he got his first massive contract he lost focus, Pochettino leaving impacted him etc etc

Spurs forums are rife with the fact he lived a celebrity lifestyle in London and football was secondary to him. I doubt we’ll ever know but he could’ve been a monster false nine or deep-lying forward if he’d dedicated himself. He’s still only 26 so he could, but a loan move to Turkey at your supposed peak age doesn’t suggest he’ll be coming back to the Premier League a renewed player.

From 2016-2018 he got 37 goals and 26 assists in 107 games from midfield. That was elite and he was 19 - 21 at the time.
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« Reply #13356 on: August 16, 2022, 08:27:40 pm »
Hard to say, everything would be speculative; once he’d made it he got lazy, believed the hype about himself, when he got his first massive contract he lost focus, Pochettino leaving impacted him etc etc

Spurs forums are rife with the fact he lived a celebrity lifestyle in London and football was secondary to him. I doubt we’ll ever know but he could’ve been a monster false nine or deep-lying forward if he’d dedicated himself. He’s still only 26 so he could, but a loan move to Turkey at your supposed peak age doesn’t suggest he’ll be coming back to the Premier League a renewed player.

From 2016-2018 he got 37 goals and 26 assists in 107 games from midfield. That was elite and he was 19 - 21 at the time.
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« Reply #13357 on: August 16, 2022, 08:56:26 pm »
Gerrard was right to avoid him.

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« Reply #13358 on: August 16, 2022, 09:09:58 pm »
He had so much potential.

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« Reply #13359 on: August 16, 2022, 09:12:44 pm »
Still disappointed it seems we won't be signing a midfielder this summer but not too bothered about Nunes going elsewhere, I think there's plenty of better midfielders around, I just think we'll be waiting until summer 2023 for (at least) one

I think we've dropped a bollock on this, personally and it will keep the LFC transfer thread often locked with
People flinging crap about it.
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