Topic: Brexit. the Con continues

[hide5seek]

The reason behind brexit?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bees-pesticides-sugar-ban-neonic-b2481023.html

[Brissyred]

Tata Steel announces plans to cut 2,800 jobs in a blow to Welsh town built on steelmaking https://apnews.com/article/uk-tata-steel-port-talbot-wales-layoffs-64406c62c2d048b9ad3d99725b2bb0ab#:~:text=LONDON%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20Indian%20firm,U.K.%20operation%20leaner%20and%20greener.
They were given millions by the govt not so long back ‘to assist them in modernising the Port Talbot plant’ and now they’re shutting it down instead - where has all that money gone I wonder? Surely not delivered into the coffers of Sunak’s wife’s family back in India, them being financially involved in the company an all...

[JohnnoWhite]

Tata Steel announces plans to cut 2,800 jobs in a blow to Welsh town built on steelmaking https://apnews.com/article/uk-tata-steel-port-talbot-wales-layoffs-64406c62c2d048b9ad3d99725b2bb0ab#:~:text=LONDON%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20Indian%20firm,U.K.%20operation%20leaner%20and%20greener.
They were given millions by the govt not so long back ‘to assist them in modernising the Port Talbot plant’ and now they’re shutting it down instead - where has all that money gone I wonder? Surely not delivered into the coffers of Sunak’s wife’s family back in India, them being financially involved in the company an all...

£500 mill creamed off out of our taxes and shuffled into the coffers of the now pissin' 'emselves laffin two brothers Sir Dorabji Tata and Sir Ratan Tata. Ferkin' con-merchants !!

[kavah]

Sunak’s wife’s family back in India ...

Old friends

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/tatas-advice-that-inspires-sudha-murthy-every-day/a-postcard/slideshow/99406850.cms

[thejbs]

So, the taxpayer gives 500m to Tata so that they can modernise the plant which results in them being able to lay off huge numbers of workers. Then, the taxpayer forks out a further £80m to compensate the workers laid off by Tata due to the 500m we initially gave them.

Fuck
The
Tories.

[lobsterboy]

So, the taxpayer gives 500m to Tata so that they can modernise the plant which results in them being able to lay off huge numbers of workers. Then, the taxpayer forks out a further £80m to compensate the workers laid off by Tata due to the 500m we initially gave them.

Fuck
The
Tories.

Is there anything Sunak does that his wifes family doesn't benefit from in some way?

[killer-heels]

France blocks plan to scrap 90-day visa rule for British expats. Good news that, dont want Brits trying to circumvent the negatives of Brexit.

[rob1966]

France blocks plan to scrap 90-day visa rule for British expats. Good news that, dont want Brits trying to circumvent the negatives of Brexit.

Good - you won, deal with it ya c*nts

[PaulF]

Most expats voted against brexit didn't they?

[TSC]

EU plans to stockpile medicines for members use, putting already strapped supply to the UK, under strain.

https://www.inkl.com/news/eu-plan-for-medicine-stockpile-could-worsen-uk-s-record-shortages

[kavah]

Most expats voted against brexit didn't they?

Yes, As you’d expect (logically):

The survey reveals that 95% of EU-based expatriates who voted in the 2016 referendum favoured Remain

https://www.sussex.ac.uk/broadcast/read/52513#:~:text=The%20survey%20reveals%20that%2095,their%20voting%20choice%20in%202019.


Of course there are loads of stories about expats who voted brexit now moaning because they can’t get healthcare etc.
and the Super-Rich expat brexiters like Jim Ratcliffe (Monte Carlo) and Dyson (Singapore). Of course they wanted out of the EU to avoid  financial scrutiny

[rob1966]

Most expats voted against brexit didn't they?

I know two people who have a place in France but live in cornwall who voted leave, even when their french friends looked at them and said "Why?".

The likes of them and the 5% of expats all added to the idiot count...

[reddebs]

I know two people who have a place in France but live in cornwall who voted leave, even when their french friends looked at them and said "Why?".

The likes of them and the 5% of expats all added to the idiot count...

A lot of them that had lived in European countries for years didn't want to give up their British residency status to become permanent residents where they lived as they wanted to be able to return to the UK to die so voted to ruin it for those of us who couldn't give a fuck 🤷

[Indomitable_Carp]

Love that word, expat!

I'm also an expat. It's a word rich European/North American immigrants like to use to seperate themselves from the poor Third World masses. We're immigrants.

A lot of them that had lived in European countries for years didn't want to give up their British residency status to become permanent residents where they lived as they wanted to be able to return to the UK to die so voted to ruin it for those of us who couldn't give a fuck 🤷

There's nothing stopping someone with a British passport returning to the UK whenever they want. Having a residency in another country doesn't mean giving up any rights to the live in the UK.

You are right though, a lot of Brits here in Spain didn't think they needed to bother filing any official papers to claim Spanish residency. Even years after the Brexit referendum and with an official EU-exit date set, many of them still didn't bother to try and get Spanish residency. That came back to bite them post-Brexit when it came to flipping your European residency card into a post-Brexit residency card.

Very predictable. But we're British, why would we have to bother with stupid things like visas and paperwork? That's for the poor immigrants.

[Nobby Reserve]

More news from the sunlit uplands!

UK halts trade negotiations with Canada over hormones in beef ban

The UK has stopped its trade talks with Canada, after nearly two years on a post-Brexit agreement, following a row over beef and cheese.
Trade between the two countries currently takes place under the terms of a deal the UK rolled over from its time as an EU member.
A time-limited agreement allowed the UK to continue to sell cars and cheese without high import taxes.
But talks about extending these as part of a new deal have now broken down.
It will mean the UK's trading terms with Canada will now be worse than when it was part of the EU's deal with the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68098177

Canada is in no hurry to conclude a deal unless it includes hormone-treated beef. In the meantime they're raising the tariff on British cheese from zero to 200%.




And The Guardian reports that

Hundreds of thousands of EU citizens ‘wrongly fined for driving in London Ulez’

Hundreds of thousands of EU citizens were wrongly fined for driving in London’s Ulez clean air zone, according to European governments, in what has been described as “possibly one of the largest data breaches in EU history”.

So, for instance, EU HGV's and delivery lorries can drive freely through central London without having to pay ULEZ fines.

 

[reddebs]

Love that word, expat!

I'm also an expat. It's a word rich European/North American immigrants like to use to seperate themselves from the poor Third World masses. We're immigrants.


There's nothing stopping someone with a British passport returning to the UK whenever they want. Having a residency in another country doesn't mean giving up any rights to the live in the UK.

You are right though, a lot of Brits here in Spain didn't think they needed to bother filing any official papers to claim Spanish residency. Even years after the Brexit referendum and with an official EU-exit date set, many of them still didn't bother to try and get Spanish residency. That came back to bite them post-Brexit when it came to flipping your European residency card into a post-Brexit residency card.

Very predictable. But we're British, why would we have to bother with stupid things like visas and paperwork? That's for the poor immigrants.

I know they didn't need to give up their passports mate, it was yet another lie told to get their leave vote and yes there were plenty who didn't think they should be made to fill forms in. 

Dickheads!

I had a client back in 2018 whose partner had been pestering her to move to Spain since their lads were born and once they'd been there 12mths they got their residency sorted which they needed to die to Brexit.

[PaulF]

More news from the sunlit uplands!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68098177

Canada is in no hurry to conclude a deal unless it includes hormone-treated beef. In the meantime they're raising the tariff on British cheese from zero to 200%.




And The Guardian reports that

So, for instance, EU HGV's and delivery lorries can drive freely through central London without having to pay ULEZ fines.

 

Liz truss will be gutted about the cheese......
At least we have the pork markets.

[killer-heels]

More news from the sunlit uplands!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68098177

Canada is in no hurry to conclude a deal unless it includes hormone-treated beef. In the meantime they're raising the tariff on British cheese from zero to 200%.




And The Guardian reports that

So, for instance, EU HGV's and delivery lorries can drive freely through central London without having to pay ULEZ fines.

 

Thats good news surely?

[nayia2002]

What an absolute farce 
Surely next government(Labour) needs to start negotiations in rejoing the single market again!
No other option available! 

[Jshooters]

It’s remarkable (or perhaps not, given the protagonist) how Brexiteers can argue in this manner and still think they’re in the right. I mean that’s what she’s doing, she’s surely not going through all this for the sake of it, she truly believes

https://x.com/lbc/status/1751545157432807435?s=46&t=q3w4iokRYJyz_JobJRZQfw

[TSC]

New reg’s coming in this week are ‘stupid’ says Rees-Mogg

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/what-new-brexit-laws-fruit-veg-from-eu-uk-367671/

[oldfordie]

It’s remarkable (or perhaps not, given the protagonist) how Brexiteers can argue in this manner and still think they’re in the right. I mean that’s what she’s doing, she’s surely not going through all this for the sake of it, she truly believes

https://x.com/lbc/status/1751545157432807435?s=46&t=q3w4iokRYJyz_JobJRZQfw

Nahh she's not alone doing this, they have to defend Brexit and attack the remain camp to keep support for Brexit, they go from interview to interview making the same arguments, they get corrected most times but ignore it and go to the next interview repeating the lies, she knows Osbourne changed his mind on holding a emergency budget before the Referendum but she wont let the facts and evidence get in the way of making a argument to defend Brexit.
It's this bullshit argument of Both camps being as bad as each other when it comes to lying, the remain camp made forecasts on what they believed would happen if we voted to leave, they believed it, the leave campaign told blatant lies they knew to be untrue.

[Nobby Reserve]

Thats good news surely?

It's good news that we don't, at present, have an agreement to let their hormone-laden shite beef in.

But bad that we don't now have a trade agreement with Canada, and that Canada seem to have a position that they won't sign one unless we accept imports of their shite, hormone-laden beef.

Of course, the EU flexed its market-size muscle during Trade Agreement negotiations with Canada, and Canada backed down on the hormone-laden beef issue.

As a shitty, has-been, division 2 (3?) country standing alone, the UK can't wield that influence.

[lobsterboy]

France blocks plan to scrap 90-day visa rule for British expats. Good news that, dont want Brits trying to circumvent the negatives of Brexit.

Taking back control of borders, its what all the thick gammon voted for.

[killer-heels]

It's good news that we don't, at present, have an agreement to let their hormone-laden shite beef in.

But bad that we don't now have a trade agreement with Canada, and that Canada seem to have a position that they won't sign one unless we accept imports of their shite, hormone-laden beef.

Of course, the EU flexed its market-size muscle during Trade Agreement negotiations with Canada, and Canada backed down on the hormone-laden beef issue.

As a shitty, has-been, division 2 (3?) country standing alone, the UK can't wield that influence.

Dont care about trade deals and I dont want Canadian shite in this country. The Tory government wouldnt have signed one through by the time they leave office and Labour best not do so.

[Nobby Reserve]

Dont care about trade deals and I dont want Canadian shite in this country. The Tory government wouldnt have signed one through by the time they leave office and Labour best not do so.

It's a good job that the GE's later this year and that Little Fishy and his corrupt cronies have had more pressing problems to fail to solve, because there's some Tories who want a total free trade free-for-all.

This is why Labour ruling out re-joining the Customs Union pisses me off.

[redbyrdz]

More Brexit wins. From 1st Feb, all fresh food imports into the UK will need extra health certificate, and then a day's notice before they can come in. (The EU already have those check in place for imports, ie British exports, but Britain hadn't implemented them so far). It's expected to add 0.2% to food price costs and reduce shelf live by a day, becayse the food is stuck at the border waiting to be allowed in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68135059




Might need to go and stock up on tomotoes...

[PaulF]

As a shitty, has-been, division 2 (3?) country standing alone, the UK can't wield that influence.

Ah but we CAN wield our blue passports Nobby.

[Nobby Reserve]

More Brexit wins. From 1st Feb, all fresh food imports into the UK will need extra health certificate, and then a day's notice before they can come in. (The EU already have those check in place for imports, ie British exports, but Britain hadn't implemented them so far). It's expected to add 0.2% to food price costs and reduce shelf live by a day, becayse the food is stuck at the border waiting to be allowed in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68135059




Might need to go and stock up on tomotoes...

Hidden in a dark corner of the BBC site - but at least it's reporting it, unlike the right-wing print media.

[killer-heels]

Good. More this country gets hammered, the better.

[redbyrdz]

Hidden in a dark corner of the BBC site - but at least it's reporting it, unlike the right-wing print media.

It's on the main page for me,  but the headline sounds ambigeous to me and  could be takes to mean it's the EU's fault: "New Brexit food checks will test Britain's supply chains".

[oldfordie]

The DUP have agreed to power sharing again. theres nothing in this deal that wasn't in Theresa Mays deal back in 2018 according to Sin Fein, I believe them as well, DUP like the Torys are sick fanatics, conned there own supporters with lies, blaming the EU for the border problem was a disgusting smear..
Probably all about knowing a GE is coming, imagine the Torys and the DUP will be asking for praise for solving the border problem as well. hope they are ridiculed for it.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Hidden in a dark corner of the BBC site - but at least it's reporting it, unlike the right-wing print media.

On the Main Business page..


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business

[So… Howard Philips]

Hidden in a dark corner of the BBC site - but at least it's reporting it, unlike the right-wing print media.

It was just discussed on the Beeb.

[LuverlyRita]

Hidden in a dark corner of the BBC site - but at least it's reporting it, unlike the right-wing print media.

Newsnight covered it reasonably well.

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1752108693364052447

[Nobby Reserve]

Newsnight covered it reasonably well.

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1752108693364052447

Newsnight seems one BBC News area that has resisted Tory influence. Probably because so few people watch it, especially amongst the C1/C2/D demographic.

I'd missed the article on the main news page, and could only find it on the Business section this morning (it may or may not have been on the main news page at that time)

[Nobby Reserve]

The DUP have agreed to power sharing again. theres nothing in this deal that wasn't in Theresa Mays deal back in 2018 according to Sin Fein, I believe them as well, DUP like the Torys are sick fanatics, conned there own supporters with lies, blaming the EU for the border problem was a disgusting smear..
Probably all about knowing a GE is coming, imagine the Torys and the DUP will be asking for praise for solving the border problem as well. hope they are ridiculed for it.

A curious row has flared after the negotiations were live-streamed to one of the bowler-hatted bigots, who Tweeted the details as they were ongoing.

One of the DUP'ers pointed the finger at a PSNI officer, but the main suspicions fall on it being one of the DUP delegation.


Hopefully, the TUV will split the vote of the bowler-hatted bigot brigade and allow the SDLP and Alliance parties to make more ground.

[oldfordie]

A curious row has flared after the negotiations were live-streamed to one of the bowler-hatted bigots, who Tweeted the details as they were ongoing.

One of the DUP'ers pointed the finger at a PSNI officer, but the main suspicions fall on it being one of the DUP delegation.


Hopefully, the TUV will split the vote of the bowler-hatted bigot brigade and allow the SDLP and Alliance parties to make more ground.

Imagine it's one of the DUP nutcases who might be putting spin on it as they think the leadership is selling out, nothing has changed really, they can't have it both ways , they can't have frictionless EU trading at the NI border without alignment and demand they have the same conditions as the rest of the UK, we knew this 8 yrs ago but these nutters just exploited ignorance as usual. refused to accept realty news was saying we don't know the details yet.
The EU will have a say in this and if Sein Fein reckon it's basically the same as Mays deal then they must have done a complete u-turn.
Pretty obvious what this is about, a GE is coming, Torys and DUP have been plotting. they know they are never going to win, they know there is no other solution except alignment,  they will now be asking for praise for solving the border problem. sick bas... 8 yrs of this shit and then they cave in.

Who knows they might be trying to get Brexit back in the news again and the deal suddenly collapses at the last minute with the Torys and DUP blaming the EU again. we shall see soon enough.

[TheShanklyGates]

Newsnight seems one BBC News area that has resisted Tory influence. Probably because so few people watch it, especially amongst the C1/C2/D demographic.

And naturally it's being slashed to the bone to the point where it won't even be recognisable any more.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/nov/30/bbc-under-fire-after-flat-out-bad-decision-to-make-big-newsnight-cuts

[TSC]

Imagine it's one of the DUP nutcases who might be putting spin on it as they think the leadership is selling out, nothing has changed really, they can't have it both ways , they can't have frictionless EU trading at the NI border without alignment and demand they have the same conditions as the rest of the UK, we knew this 8 yrs ago but these nutters just exploited ignorance as usual. refused to accept realty news was saying we don't know the details yet.
The EU will have a say in this and if Sein Fein reckon it's basically the same as Mays deal then they must have done a complete u-turn.
Pretty obvious what this is about, a GE is coming, Torys and DUP have been plotting. they know they are never going to win, they know there is no other solution except alignment,  they will now be asking for praise for solving the border problem. sick bas... 8 yrs of this shit and then they cave in.

Who knows they might be trying to get Brexit back in the news again and the deal suddenly collapses at the last minute with the Torys and DUP blaming the EU again. we shall see soon enough.

Being reported on ch4 news now and they’re giving a loyalist activist ‘Jamie Bryson’ airtime. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Bryson