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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14720 on: September 18, 2020, 03:40:51 pm »
Hoever is a great talent, but unfortunately for him we have TAA and Williams ahead of him in the pecking order at the right fullback position, and he (still) doesn't have the size to be considered for the 4th choice central defender position. I hope that we will include a buy-back clause or at least a right of first refusal in the deal.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14721 on: September 18, 2020, 03:40:51 pm »
It took less than 24 hours for people to whinge.

Hoever sees himself as a RB, and he's currently behind Trent and Neco Williams. Even at CB, he's at best our 5th choice, as I don't see him filling in ahead of Fabinho for instance if the other 3 aren't available.

10 million plus add ons for a player with 4 appearances is great business.


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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14722 on: September 18, 2020, 03:40:55 pm »
So if Jota was pulled from the Wolves squad last night before the game, and made his way home during the game... what are we saying?

Head isn't in it/agitating for the move or deal had advanced?

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14723 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:08 pm »
I do wonder if the Government have given some assurances over getting fans back into Stadia following the meetings this week.

If we've had some news in private over that it may well have crystalised some numbers for us. Either that or they've just been trolling us all summer  ;D

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14724 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:13 pm »
This going to be like Fabinho isn't it, with Jota signed in about 27 minutes time?

Was it really Jota in the car arriving at Melwood earlier?

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14725 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:14 pm »
I assume the Hoever stuff has happened because:
(c) We are struggling to sell the other deadwood.

What does deadwood actually mean?
Bit of a jump to assume that we are selling However because we can't sell other players.
It’s easy to believe when it’s going well.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14726 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:18 pm »
Age difference of 3 yrs between Trent and Hoever. Assuming Trent finishes being first choice RB at age 31, you're expecting Hoever to be happy playing backup for the next decade or so?

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14727 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:21 pm »
Edwards since yesterday:


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« Reply #14728 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:31 pm »
Love Jota. Not sure of the fit at all, but lovely little player.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14729 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:37 pm »
Jota >>>>> Sarr

Said it for while always doubted Sarr was first choice. Doesn't score..
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« Reply #14730 on: September 18, 2020, 03:41:58 pm »
Jota >>>>> Sarr

Agreed (would prefer Jimenez though!)
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14731 on: September 18, 2020, 03:42:05 pm »
Think he has got a huge ceiling, but no realistic path (especially since Klopp has decided on Neco as the back up RB ahead of him) to first team football with us anytime soon, and our loaning players has not really worked in terms of raising their price the way we hoped. So I get if we can get a good fee (and 10 mill plus for a player with no real first team experience at any level is a good fee) why not?
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14732 on: September 18, 2020, 03:42:14 pm »
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We went for Jota, they asked for Hoever in exchange. One of those swap deals that isn’t treated as one officially.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14733 on: September 18, 2020, 03:42:19 pm »
Jota last season

16 goals, 6 assists in 48 appearances

The year before 10 goals, 7 assists in 37 appearances [all competitions]

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14734 on: September 18, 2020, 03:42:56 pm »
Said it for while always doubted Sarr was first choice. Doesn't score..

Smoking out Jota I reckon, pushing Wolves to some form of commitment

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14735 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:03 pm »
From Statsbomb Wolves season preview:


Part of the Wolves oeuvre is ball carrying at pace. It's not just Traoré either. Some experimental numbers I generated for speed with directness of ball carrying saw Diogo Jota rank fastest in the league,

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« Reply #14736 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:04 pm »
Agreed (would prefer Jimenez though!)

Jimenez is 29 the same age as Firmino. Not ideal. Jotta is 23.

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« Reply #14737 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:09 pm »
Doesn't rate him enough to keep him.

Yes, that's true. But then, people were creaming all over Brewster last year, saying Klopp rates him and now he's one of those who might be sold.

I think Klopp cares more about players actually and their futures than just do a - rate him = keep, not rate him = sell. He isn't that two dimensional.

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« Reply #14738 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:16 pm »
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14739 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:23 pm »
Paul Joyce saying we are interested in Jota...

Wow.

And the Hoever deal starts to make even more sense.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14740 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:33 pm »
I do wonder if the Government have given some assurances over getting fans back into Stadia following the meetings this week.

If we've had some news in private over that it may well have crystalised some numbers for us. Either that or they've just been trolling us all summer  ;D

More likely to have exits lined up perhaps.

KJH coming from nowhere but has surely been in the pipeline for longer than 24hrs and perhaps the same for some of Grujic, Wilson, Brewster, maybe Origi.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14741 on: September 18, 2020, 03:43:46 pm »
We're replacing him with this guy:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dyson-clapier/profil/spieler/697101

Hope not, he sucks.


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And could be more business between the two clubs with #LFC interested in Wolves forward Diogo Jota. Lively few days.


Definitely interesting developments; you’d think talks would be somewhat down the line given we worked with them on Hoever. Is interesting that stories around Sarr, Dembélé and Jota have surfaced in the past 24 hours. Could be a smokescreen for someone else or maybe we’re just going to play the three clubs off against each other for the best deal. My preference would be Jota.

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« Reply #14742 on: September 18, 2020, 03:44:09 pm »
Jimenez is 29 the same age as Firmino. Not ideal. Jotta is 23.

Oh I know it's unrealistic, plus they'd want more for him I imagine. Great player though.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14743 on: September 18, 2020, 03:44:33 pm »
So since Jota primarily plays on the left, and Sarr primarily plays on the right...?
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14744 on: September 18, 2020, 03:45:22 pm »
Jota is also 24, so he's coming into his peak years.

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14745 on: September 18, 2020, 03:45:26 pm »
So since Jota primarily plays on the left, and Sarr primarily plays on the right...?

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« Reply #14746 on: September 18, 2020, 03:45:35 pm »
Thiago announcement at 4 apparently

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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14747 on: September 18, 2020, 03:45:35 pm »
Always thought the Sarr thing was bollocks as would cost a lot.

Jota makes much more sense as two footed too.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14748 on: September 18, 2020, 03:45:52 pm »
I think Klopp cares more about players actually and their futures than just do a - rate him = keep, not rate him = sell. He isn't that two dimensional.

I think he genuinely wants all of his players to do well and if that means they move to another club then that’s the fair and proper thing to do.
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« Reply #14749 on: September 18, 2020, 03:45:59 pm »
Jota is out of contract in 2022. Wolves have Podence & Neto,Traore as the forward options. They need to get some money in to get another RB outside of Hoever & possibly another CB.

I think this deal will happen for 30-40m once we sell Brewster

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« Reply #14750 on: September 18, 2020, 03:46:18 pm »
Diogo Jota would be a very shrewd piece of business. Would fit in well here.
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« Reply #14751 on: September 18, 2020, 03:46:29 pm »
Didn't take long for people to moan again.

Wish people would trust the Management.  :butt
Well, it was a nice 30 hours, but it couldn't last  ;D
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« Reply #14752 on: September 18, 2020, 03:47:07 pm »
Wow. I was disappointed (and still am) to read Hoever is on his way out, but that Jota news has cheered me right up, as much as I like Sarr I think Jota has a lot more in terms of end product, and of course wouldn't lose him to Afcon! I think he would suit Liverpool Football Club to the ground.
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Re: THE LIVERPOOL SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD - NOW WITH ADDED ALCANTARA
« Reply #14753 on: September 18, 2020, 03:47:09 pm »
So if Jota was pulled from the Wolves squad last night before the game, and made his way home during the game... what are we saying?

Head isn't in it/agitating for the move or deal had advanced?

I'm saying he was driving the minibus earlier bringing Thiago to Melwood and they are both going to be unveiled together

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« Reply #14754 on: September 18, 2020, 03:47:29 pm »
Who is Wolves top player? is it Jimenez?....

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« Reply #14755 on: September 18, 2020, 03:47:41 pm »
Wolves can't offer any european football this year so maybe this is on.

Imagine getting Thiago and Jota in before the weekend!

Think we're prepared to wait on any last minute deals for Wilson, Grujic and Shaqiri.

Suspect there will be no CB in this window.

If we do this and we've also shipped out Hoever and Brewster on favourable deals then Edwards has once again played a blinder.

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« Reply #14756 on: September 18, 2020, 03:48:14 pm »
Jota last season

16 goals, 6 assists in 48 appearances

The year before 10 goals, 7 assists in 37 appearances [all competitions]
From Statsbomb Wolves season preview:


Part of the Wolves oeuvre is ball carrying at pace. It's not just Traoré either. Some experimental numbers I generated for speed with directness of ball carrying saw Diogo Jota rank fastest in the league,

Doesn't Jota work pretty hard defensively too? I had a look around yesterday but couldn't find any stats for him to confirm.

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« Reply #14757 on: September 18, 2020, 03:48:22 pm »
Yes, that's true. But then, people were creaming all over Brewster last year, saying Klopp rates him and now he's one of those who might be sold.

I think Klopp cares more about players actually and their futures than just do a - rate him = keep, not rate him = sell. He isn't that two dimensional.

I agree.

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« Reply #14758 on: September 18, 2020, 03:48:51 pm »
Jota > Werner. Just saying 8)

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« Reply #14759 on: September 18, 2020, 03:49:11 pm »
Who is Wolves top player? is it Jimenez?....

Depends on what context. If you mean goalscorer then yes he is.

Jota is 23 I think and looks a really good player. His numbers last season when he did some game time weren't bad at all
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