Author Topic: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD  (Read 131254 times)

Online Craig 🤔

  • Lite. Smelt it and dealt it.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 49,776
  • YNWA
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2760 on: August 2, 2020, 12:48:29 PM »
What people are forgetting when they talk about forwards playing into their 30's is that their mobility significantly drops which means they need to play alongside faster, more mobile players. It doesn't work if your whole front line is ageing at the same time.

Assuming their mobility does drop. There are cases where this isn’t the case.

Offline Reeves

  • Back from the dead. Bit simples.
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,468
  • "THE DISTANCE BETWEEN INSANITY AND GENIUS.........
    • RAWK
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2761 on: August 2, 2020, 12:51:14 PM »

I genuinely think it’s an extremely difficult problem for the club... a high class problem for sure ... but tough really tough to balance continued sporting excellence with the longer term health of the club and its finite resources

I completely agree. And with so many demanding competitions I think it's all the more reason to have some quality coming through. It also raises the game of our existing players, knowing they have competition.
..........IS MEASURED ONLY BY SUCCESS"

RAWK - HJC Champions 2003
Former RAWK Scribe 2002 - 2004

Offline Reeves

  • Back from the dead. Bit simples.
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,468
  • "THE DISTANCE BETWEEN INSANITY AND GENIUS.........
    • RAWK
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2762 on: August 2, 2020, 12:55:10 PM »
Assuming their mobility does drop. There are cases where this isn’t the case.

To be fair that's rare. Even someone like insanely fit Ronaldo now plays centrally. Mane and Salah will become less mobile and slower. The question is when and being prepared for it. I suppose that is where the statisticians on the pay roll will come in.   
..........IS MEASURED ONLY BY SUCCESS"

RAWK - HJC Champions 2003
Former RAWK Scribe 2002 - 2004

Offline Romford_Red

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,224
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2763 on: August 2, 2020, 01:06:43 PM »
Don't forget 'monitoring' as in Everton 'monitoring' ....insert unlikely candidate's name here.

ah yes. Also 'Well placed to make a move' and 'preparing to pull the trigger'

Offline OsirisMVZ

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,875
  • Picaro
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2764 on: August 2, 2020, 01:18:00 PM »
I'm sure this was said a few pages ago but I've been working over the weekend. 41m for relegated Nathan Ake is exactly why we are trying so hard to be frugal in the current market. That's up there in inflated prices with 16m for Charlie Adam in 2011 purely cos he had a left foot.

Online Craig 🤔

  • Lite. Smelt it and dealt it.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 49,776
  • YNWA
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2765 on: August 2, 2020, 01:21:01 PM »
That's up there in inflated prices with 16m for Charlie Adam in 2011 purely cos he had a left foot.

He cost us about £7m didn’t he?

Offline OsirisMVZ

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,875
  • Picaro
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2766 on: August 2, 2020, 01:22:30 PM »
£7m! Not sure what I was remembering. That was a bad summer.

We still paid too much ;D

Offline west_london_red

  • Knows his stuff - pull the udder one! RAWK's Dairy Queen.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,480
  • watching me? but whose watching you watching me?
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2767 on: August 2, 2020, 01:40:58 PM »
What kind of TV is it?

Depends which room I’m in at the time!

Online Dim Glas

  • Die Nullfünfer. State of this profile. It’s like something you’d see on an Everton or Man Utd forum.
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 23,599
  • Mentalitätsmonster
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2768 on: August 2, 2020, 01:44:46 PM »
£7m! Not sure what I was remembering. That was a bad summer.

We still paid too much ;D

Downing cost 16 mill, he was shite too  ;D
Football always seems the most important of the least important things.

Offline Skeeve

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,999
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2769 on: August 2, 2020, 01:53:12 PM »
Firmino - 1991
Salah - 1992
Mane - 1992
Son - 1992

None of these players will turn 30 before October 2021. Why would anyone be worried about them aging? They have just entered their peak years. That means at least another 3-4 seasons of domination.

The issue is not with the first three, albeit your claim that they have just entered their peak seems a little optimistic, it is about the idea of adding another player who is in the same age profile and would thus need replacing in a similar timeframe and so looking for somebody a bit younger makes far more sense because even if you had the money at the time, it is still better not to have to replace a bunch of players at once when you can do it far more gradually instead.

Those who keep bringing up whatever examples of players going well into their 30's have to realise that those on here advocating for a new attacking signing are not doing so because they expect any of the three to suddenly fall of a cliff as far as form, but because it is far easier for a club with finite resources to gradually sign potential replacements and in our case especially so right now since everyone wants to play for Klopp-led league champions unless they are purely after a payday.
« Last Edit: August 2, 2020, 02:03:06 PM by Skeeve »

Offline You think you'd learn by now

  • farKnow
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 29,321
  • deFacto
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2770 on: August 2, 2020, 02:16:43 PM »
Robben was injury prone before he hit 30. Ribery had injury issues before he hit 30 as well. In any case, they didn't drop off the face of the earth when they did turn 30.

There are plenty of other attacking players who continued to play well, if they avoided injuries, into their 30s.

But the way people talk about our front 3, is as if they're already in their 30s and are past their best.

Never ever have I ever seen this discussion take place any time before about any club, except for us, including our own supporters. It's weird really.


Offline Romford_Red

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,224
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2771 on: August 2, 2020, 02:20:27 PM »
Depends which room I’m in at the time!

Get a load of Mr 'I've got more than one TV' billy big bollocks over here...

Online Adeemo

  • surreally arsed
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 12,223
  • A.W.E.S.O.M.-O
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2772 on: August 2, 2020, 02:44:26 PM »
I'm sure this was said a few pages ago but I've been working over the weekend. 41m for relegated Nathan Ake is exactly why we are trying so hard to be frugal in the current market. That's up there in inflated prices with 16m for Charlie Adam in 2011 purely cos he had a left foot.

It was supposed to be a reduced market, it just seems that prices will remain as they have since the Neymar deal.
"I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side"

Offline Samie

  • The Ev of drafting! Rumoured to be the 7th, we may need that old magic back! The Timekeeper, ask him what time the action starts
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 37,987
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2773 on: August 2, 2020, 03:08:59 PM »
Reports are going around today we and Wolves are after Sarr and Watford could sell for 30 million.  Big brother Sadio do your thing.  ;D

Online Hazell

  • Ultimate Movie Night Draft Winner 2017. King - or Queen - of Mystery. Hyzenthlay. The 5th Benitle's sex conch.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 59,524
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2774 on: August 2, 2020, 03:13:05 PM »
Reports are going around today we and Wolves are after Sarr and Watford could sell for 30 million.  Big brother Sadio do your thing.  ;D

Which obscure source/twitter user is this from Samie?
We have to change from doubter to believer. Now.

Offline Samie

  • The Ev of drafting! Rumoured to be the 7th, we may need that old magic back! The Timekeeper, ask him what time the action starts
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 37,987
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2775 on: August 2, 2020, 03:14:13 PM »
The always reliable Sports Mole.  ;D

Offline Djozer

  • Ujpest
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,042
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2776 on: August 2, 2020, 03:18:31 PM »
Reports are going around today we and Wolves are after Sarr and Watford could sell for 30 million.  Big brother Sadio do your thing.  ;D
Sarr would be ideal for us, apart from the whole Afcon thing. Even with that, he'd still be a pretty good acquisition, and maybe they'll decide to shift that tournament to the summer months finally, who knows? Was ace against us, obviously.

Oh, it was Sports Mole? Pretty much a done deal then. Lovely.

Online Hazell

  • Ultimate Movie Night Draft Winner 2017. King - or Queen - of Mystery. Hyzenthlay. The 5th Benitle's sex conch.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 59,524
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2777 on: August 2, 2020, 03:21:39 PM »
The always reliable Sports Mole.  ;D

Oh right. In that case, welcome Ismaila!
We have to change from doubter to believer. Now.

Online Flaccido Dongingo

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,311
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2778 on: August 2, 2020, 03:28:04 PM »
I'd personally be happy with a proper LB for cover/rotation and likewise a WF.

Offline Clint Eastwood

  • The man with no name
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,864
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2779 on: August 2, 2020, 03:30:04 PM »
Don't want Sarr.

Offline The Test

  • 6'3" tall, very strong but also pretty quick seeks soulmate with GSOH. Priority given to Mormons.
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,850
  • Coutinho's cousins mates tennis partner
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2780 on: August 2, 2020, 03:38:21 PM »
He looks a bit bambi on ice to me, a far cry from a young sadio who absolutely terrorised us singlehanded on multiple occasions at Southampton. Sarr seems more Kanu like in the way he moves, doesn’t have that low centre of gravity we seem to like upfront. But then what do I know really?

Offline Theoldkopite

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,337
  • Survived The Boy's Pen in the 60's
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2781 on: August 2, 2020, 03:56:51 PM »
Don't want Sarr.

Me neither!! Only decent game I’ve seen him play was against us at Vicarage Road!,

Online aw1991

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,905
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2782 on: August 2, 2020, 04:03:41 PM »
Don't want Sarr.
He looks alright. I don't think he is better than Origi, definitely still a massive drop off from Salah or Mane.

I think everyone is just going to link us with every decent player from a relegated side due to our history of making these kind of signings. Only one I'd really like is Buendia.

Offline Sheer Magnetism

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,500
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2783 on: August 2, 2020, 04:12:19 PM »
No thanks on Sarr. Looks like a speedster who plays most effectively on the break, but without the technique or skill to reach the top level.

Online Craig 🤔

  • Lite. Smelt it and dealt it.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 49,776
  • YNWA
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2784 on: August 2, 2020, 04:13:34 PM »
Reports areShite going around on Twitter today we and Wolves are after Sarr and Watford could sell for 30 million.  Big brother Sadio do your thing.  ;D

Sorted for you  ;D

Offline Samie

  • The Ev of drafting! Rumoured to be the 7th, we may need that old magic back! The Timekeeper, ask him what time the action starts
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 37,987
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2785 on: August 2, 2020, 04:17:30 PM »
Why you doubting Sports Mole mate?

Online Craig 🤔

  • Lite. Smelt it and dealt it.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 49,776
  • YNWA
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2786 on: August 2, 2020, 04:18:22 PM »
Why you doubting Sports Mole mate?

Well he’s blind and lives under ground.

Online hugoboss

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,503
  • Lightning Frightning!!!
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2787 on: August 2, 2020, 04:24:18 PM »
If he wasnt leaving for Roma, Pedro would have been a great backup for Salah and Mane.
Prandelli: "I prefer to concede a goal on the counter-attack rather than sit, wait and suffer for 20 minutes."

Online fucking appalled

  • Chief Suck Up. Feel his breath on your face.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 36,719
  • Pretty, pretty, pretty.....pretty pretty good
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2788 on: August 2, 2020, 04:38:42 PM »
£30 million for Sarr (I think we’d probably be creative with add ons etc) wouldn’t be too bad. He’s definitely got the raw tools
Trent is pretty poor at free kicks. Said it for a long time. One decent free kick a few years ago and the commentators think he's Beckham

Offline You think you'd learn by now

  • farKnow
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 29,321
  • deFacto
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2789 on: August 2, 2020, 04:46:04 PM »
Not convinced by Sarr at all.

Offline Tepid T₂O

  • Deffo NOT 9"! MUFC bedwetter. Grass. Folically-challenged, God-piece-wearing, monkey-rubber. Jizz aroma expert. Operating at the lower end of the distribution curve...has the hots for Alan. Bastard. Fearless in transfer windows with lack of convicti
  • Lead Matchday Commentator
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 69,657
  • Dejan Lovren fan club member #1
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2790 on: August 2, 2020, 04:47:45 PM »
Not convinced by Sarr at all.
He’s got potential,....  but I’m not sure how high his ceiling is...
“Happiness can be found in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light.”

With courage, nothing is impossible.

Offline You think you'd learn by now

  • farKnow
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 29,321
  • deFacto
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2791 on: August 2, 2020, 04:50:26 PM »
Marcos Thuram imo would be a better choice given the money may be similar.

Online Goalposts for Jumpers

  • Mon Ranager's Alter-Ego.
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,287
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2792 on: August 2, 2020, 04:51:09 PM »
He’s got potential,....  but I’m not sure how high his ceiling is...

He's not in the elite bracket yet.

Offline peachybum

  • orangeyface
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,475
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2793 on: August 2, 2020, 04:53:29 PM »
I think Lloyd Kelly makes too much sense to not try and do it IF Bournemouth are willing to not be silly with the price. Covers CB and LB. Like having another Gomez for the opposite side but Kelly is a much better full back by all accounts.

As for a new wide man i'd love for us to try and get Ryan Sessegnon. Mourinho clearly doesn't rate him and Spurs might need the cash with no CL and the Stadium to pay for. Could also cover at LB.
I wanna be like Jurgen Klopp

Offline Stockholm Syndrome

  • Djurgården Disease
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,227
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2794 on: August 2, 2020, 04:56:35 PM »
Marcos Thuram imo would be a better choice given the money may be similar.

I would be very surprised if you could get Thuram for 30 million

Offline Tepid T₂O

  • Deffo NOT 9"! MUFC bedwetter. Grass. Folically-challenged, God-piece-wearing, monkey-rubber. Jizz aroma expert. Operating at the lower end of the distribution curve...has the hots for Alan. Bastard. Fearless in transfer windows with lack of convicti
  • Lead Matchday Commentator
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 69,657
  • Dejan Lovren fan club member #1
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2795 on: August 2, 2020, 04:56:37 PM »
I think Lloyd Kelly makes too much sense to not try and do it IF Bournemouth are willing to not be silly with the price. Covers CB and LB. Like having another Gomez for the opposite side but Kelly is a much better full back by all accounts.

As for a new wide man i'd love for us to try and get Ryan Sessegnon. Mourinho clearly doesn't rate him and Spurs might need the cash with no CL and the Stadium to pay for. Could also cover at LB.
Swap Kelly for Wilson.  Deal done.
“Happiness can be found in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light.”

With courage, nothing is impossible.

Offline You think you'd learn by now

  • farKnow
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 29,321
  • deFacto
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2796 on: August 2, 2020, 04:57:15 PM »
I think Lloyd Kelly makes too much sense to not try and do it IF Bournemouth are willing to not be silly with the price. Covers CB and LB. Like having another Gomez for the opposite side but Kelly is a much better full back by all accounts.

As for a new wide man i'd love for us to try and get Ryan Sessegnon. Mourinho clearly doesn't rate him and Spurs might need the cash with no CL and the Stadium to pay for. Could also cover at LB.

I don't think he's ready for us, he's really not as good as people raved about.

Online DelTrotter

  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,793
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2797 on: August 2, 2020, 05:05:50 PM »
Yeah I don't see the point in Kelly. The biggest complaint Bournemouth and Bristol City fans have had about him is being shit with the ball, hardly ideal for a Liverpool full back and at CB he'll basically never play unless Van Dijk is injured so seems a bit of a waste of time.

Offline rafathegaffa83

  • RAWK Scribe
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 31,898
  • Dutch Class
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2798 on: August 2, 2020, 05:06:23 PM »
Marcos Thuram imo would be a better choice given the money may be similar.

Marcus Thuram would cost well more than Sarr. Gladbach have CL football next year and he'd cost well more than £30m

Offline peachybum

  • orangeyface
  • Believer
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,475
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: THE SUMMER 2020 TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #2799 on: August 2, 2020, 05:09:36 PM »
Yeah I don't see the point in Kelly. The biggest complaint Bournemouth and Bristol City fans have had about him is being shit with the ball, hardly ideal for a Liverpool full back and at CB he'll basically never play unless Van Dijk is injured so seems a bit of a waste of time.

Which is why being able to play a second position would be a plus for anybody we bring in as 4th choice CB. And the position we need cover in is LB. So i guy who plays both is perfect for our squad. Whether is be Kelly or somebody else.
I wanna be like Jurgen Klopp