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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #280 on: March 13, 2020, 08:14:35 pm »
Is there not a chance the players and club staff will be isolated for a couple of weeks, then get tested and if all clear the games are played behind closed doors?

Also if it gets cancelled, could relegated teams actually do anything legally? As they would be losing tens of millions of pounds. Teams like Bournmouth and Villa still have a real chance of staying up given they have 9 or so games left to save themselves.

How would that work? Could they sue?

Plus teams like Leeds, they could miss out on £100m or so if their potential promotion to the premier league gets cancelled.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #281 on: March 13, 2020, 08:20:46 pm »
Is there not a chance the players and club staff will be isolated for a couple of weeks, then get tested and if all clear the games are played behind closed doors?

Also if it gets cancelled, could relegated teams actually do anything legally? As they would be losing tens of millions of pounds. Teams like Bournmouth and Villa still have a real chance of staying up given they have 9 or so games left to save themselves.

How would that work? Could they sue?

Plus teams like Leeds, they could miss out on £100m or so if their potential promotion to the premier league gets cancelled.

What if one of the players' family member picks it up from being in contact with a 'commoner' and gives it to a player?  You're back to square one. Or what do you do with the coach driver that transports players? Do they have to live on their own? Unfortunately, the reality is you won't see a football kicked in England for a long while. I believe almost everyone is coming round to that now.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #282 on: March 13, 2020, 08:21:42 pm »
Can't say I'm surprised, or that it wasn't the right decision, but definitely a disheartening way to finish out what should be a joyful season  :-[

Hopefully things can get right again and we can do this proper.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #283 on: March 13, 2020, 08:23:51 pm »
Same. Not having manc scum (and others) laughing we've not won the premiership when we basically have. There are ways around this. Just start the season up again later and push next season back. Could also bin the league cup and fa cup next season.

Absolutely. And all of the messages are consistent in saying that all of these things are far more likely than binning off the league. The last few days on this forum would make for a really interesting study on the spread of panic and herd mentality. Every bit of actual information makes it clear how completing the season at a later date is absolutely the way they're going, supporting all the arguments about the logic of it. But then one person says, "yeah but they might not do that" and everyone loses their shit again. It's mad.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #284 on: March 13, 2020, 08:25:48 pm »
Is there not a chance the players and club staff will be isolated for a couple of weeks, then get tested and if all clear the games are played behind closed doors?

Also if it gets cancelled, could relegated teams actually do anything legally? As they would be losing tens of millions of pounds. Teams like Bournmouth and Villa still have a real chance of staying up given they have 9 or so games left to save themselves.

How would that work? Could they sue?

Plus teams like Leeds, they could miss out on £100m or so if their potential promotion to the premier league gets cancelled.

If it's cancelled altogether, it creates a shitshow of epic proportions.

For me, the only way to avert this is to declare that the season will be completed when circumstances allow.

This means there can be no argument over placings, relegations, champions etc.

To my mind, the league should declare as soon as possible that the season definitely will continue to it's conclusion when possible to do so. Doing so will clear up once and for all where clubs stand. Finishing it averts so many problems and is the sensible thing to do.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #285 on: March 13, 2020, 08:28:24 pm »
Its crazy that people are saying stop and start a new season again. Its like they think this virus respects the football calendar.

This will be back according to most experts even if we effectively get through the other side. We have no cure or no protection.

There needs to be a method to set up for a league to conclude.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #286 on: March 13, 2020, 08:28:59 pm »
Absolutely. And all of the messages are consistent in saying that all of these things are far more likely than binning off the league. The last few days on this forum would make for a really interesting study on the spread of panic and herd mentality. Every bit of actual information makes it clear how completing the season at a later date is absolutely the way they're going, supporting all the arguments about the logic of it. But then one person says, "yeah but they might not do that" and everyone loses their shit again. It's mad.

The intention is very much to finish the season. The longer it drags on (impact going to get a lot worse before it gets better) the more clubs will start flapping about next season and looking at alternatives.

In reality it's not going away next year anyway, so cancelling this season would set a dangerous precedent for when it hits again in the winter.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #287 on: March 13, 2020, 08:29:30 pm »
Can't say I'm surprised, or that it wasn't the right decision, but definitely a disheartening way to finish out what should be a joyful season  :-[

Hopefully things can get right again and we can do this proper.

If there is any sense left, the season will finish. Though it will just be a lot later than it would have been.

Although it is disheartening, society has bigger fish to fry than football just now.

Just imagine how utterly amazing it will feel once we finally lift the trophy, especially after the current trauma all of us in society are experiencing at the moment.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #288 on: March 13, 2020, 08:34:49 pm »
Play behind locked doors, or hand out the fair way ; IE how it is now, then restart same teams next year. Anything else would be unlogical and everyone knows it, especially in PL with LFC’s lead.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #289 on: March 13, 2020, 08:37:47 pm »
Not sure if it has been mentioned already, but there is also a human/family/compassionate aspect to this all, and players, as already shown by the positive test results, are not immune to all of this.
For example, how long can we 'keep the players' in this country. What about their loved ones in their home country? They may want to see them. They may want to 'go home' for a while, or for good. Heaven forbid, but some of their loved ones may fall ill, or worse.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #290 on: March 13, 2020, 08:41:46 pm »
Cancel the Euros.

Play through May, June and July if needed to complete this season.

Cancel both domestic cups next season.

Play CL and Europa league qualifiers over one leg starting in August.

Apart from any outstanding Euro qualifiers no international breaks for meaningless friendlies before 2021.

Start next seasons CL and Europa groups in October.

Start 20/21 domestic season in mid September.

« Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 08:46:27 pm by andy07 »
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #291 on: March 13, 2020, 08:54:20 pm »
We will be crowned champions of England this season, no other conclusion makes sense. We can at least call us Champions of Europe for a little while longer, I like that.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #292 on: March 13, 2020, 08:58:06 pm »
If they void it, the Man City bus welcome will look like the teddy bear’s picnic in comparison to the likely response.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #293 on: March 13, 2020, 09:10:00 pm »
Cancel the Euros.

Play through May, June and July if needed to complete this season.

Cancel both domestic cups next season.

Play CL and Europa league qualifiers over one leg starting in August.

Apart from any outstanding Euro qualifiers no international breaks for meaningless friendlies before 2021.

Start next seasons CL and Europa groups in October.

Start 20/21 domestic season in mid September.


Cancel the Euros.

Play through the summer as needed to complete this season.

Cancel the League Cup for good, assess the FA Cup for next season (keep it is my preference).

Use all international dates that facilitate friendlies to complete club football competitions.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #294 on: March 13, 2020, 09:12:57 pm »
We are dealing with a complete unknown situation. Pausing the season makes sense. I realistically don't foresee the season starting up again in April. I think they had to give a restart date but realistically it's more of a let's see where we are at that stage announcement. This thing is the most serious situation I have ever witnessed in my life time.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #295 on: March 13, 2020, 09:13:46 pm »
My random shout was to finish it when we we can

New season then split into two with 1st, 3rd, 5th etc in one group 2nd,4th,6th etc in the other

Allows less games and then playoff for the important bits at the end, champions, Europe, relegation. Repeat it down the pyramid

Would allow this to finish and new season to be squeezed in to a smaller window. Back to normal 21/22 season

Wouldn’t happen but hey ho!

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #296 on: March 13, 2020, 09:17:51 pm »
Cancel the Euros.

Play through May, June and July if needed to complete this season.

Cancel both domestic cups next season.

Play CL and Europa league qualifiers over one leg starting in August.

Apart from any outstanding Euro qualifiers no international breaks for meaningless friendlies before 2021.

Start next seasons CL and Europa groups in October.

Start 20/21 domestic season in mid September.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #297 on: March 13, 2020, 09:20:08 pm »
On a sporting perspective the only need is to complete the league programmes..domestically and Central Europe etc...conclude champions. promotion.. relegation

All cup competitions can be scrapped...

The former can be done in 4-5 weeks by playing weekends and midweeks...even if football starts back up late April it can be wrapped up by end of May




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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #298 on: March 13, 2020, 09:22:57 pm »
Oh, don't scrap both domestic cup competitions... Keep the FA Cup and call it COVID Cup next season. Fuck the League Cup like all other nations that had it have done.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #299 on: March 13, 2020, 09:23:36 pm »
My random shout was to finish it when we we can

New season then split into two with 1st, 3rd, 5th etc in one group 2nd,4th,6th etc in the other

Allows less games and then playoff for the important bits at the end, champions, Europe, relegation. Repeat it down the pyramid

Would allow this to finish and new season to be squeezed in to a smaller window. Back to normal 21/22 season

Wouldn’t happen but hey ho!

Creative thinking is what is needed. 
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #300 on: March 13, 2020, 09:27:34 pm »
There's easily ways round this, my issue is I don't believe the leaders of the PL are motivated enough to do it. Cancelling the league is the easiest option for them. I am starting to get genuinely worried about this. They could have easily released a statement today rubbishing claims it will be null and void and they haven't.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #301 on: March 13, 2020, 09:34:19 pm »
Cancel the Euros.

Play through May, June and July if needed to complete this season.

Cancel both domestic cups next season.

Play CL and Europa league qualifiers over one leg starting in August.

Apart from any outstanding Euro qualifiers no international breaks for meaningless friendlies before 2021.

Start next seasons CL and Europa groups in October.

Start 20/21 domestic season in mid September.

That's not going to happen ever. The problem is that there are multiple competitions and associated with that are major financial revenues that come with the competitions (sponsorship, TV revenues etc) Getting all of these different groups to talk and agree on something is not realistic. From the club level, there are also some clubs that are very much interested in seeing the season written off and starting over next season e.g. any relegation threatened club will want a decent break and then try again next year. Meanwhile, any team that is due to win something (us) or get promoted will have every intention of getting on the pitch and finishing the season.

Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong in declaring a champion for the season, albeit incomplete. At the same, time if no further games were played, they could just keep the leagues the same for next season. After all, there's pretty much no doubt amongst anyone that we were going to win the league, and we've completed the majority of the season so I doubt any team would get their knickers in a twist if we were declared champions.

In order for this season to be completed, they would need to be able to return safely and then complete the remaining few games. I don't think they'll be back on the field before May/June. That leaves basically the pre-season to be able to do it.  If the clubs were willing to forego their camps/trips to complete the season, then maybe it'll happen.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #302 on: March 13, 2020, 09:36:33 pm »
I really can't see it getting cancelled. It would create such chaos in determining who goes up/down and Europe even without factoring us in. Could see it going in to the Summer if needed. Knockout competitions don't really matter so much but the nature of league competitions means they can't really just get cancelled.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #303 on: March 13, 2020, 09:36:51 pm »
FIFA calling for internationals to be cancelled.

Euro 2020 play-offs have moved a step closer to being postponed after Fifa recommended all upcoming internationals should be called off.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #304 on: March 13, 2020, 09:37:23 pm »
There's easily ways round this, my issue is I don't believe the leaders of the PL are motivated enough to do it. Cancelling the league is the easiest option for them. I am starting to get genuinely worried about this. They could have easily released a statement today rubbishing claims it will be null and void and they haven't.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #305 on: March 13, 2020, 09:39:15 pm »
There's easily ways round this, my issue is I don't believe the leaders of the PL are motivated enough to do it. Cancelling the league is the easiest option for them. I am starting to get genuinely worried about this. They could have easily released a statement today rubbishing claims it will be null and void and they haven't.



Clubs, owners and fans will demand that they DO get motivated!  There's too much money involved.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #306 on: March 13, 2020, 09:40:38 pm »
Ironic that COVID got to 19 first...

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #307 on: March 13, 2020, 09:41:10 pm »
FIFA calling for internationals to be cancelled.


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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #308 on: March 13, 2020, 09:48:13 pm »
Ironic that COVID got to 19 first...

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #309 on: March 13, 2020, 09:51:25 pm »
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #310 on: March 13, 2020, 09:54:23 pm »
There's easily ways round this, my issue is I don't believe the leaders of the PL are motivated enough to do it. Cancelling the league is the easiest option for them. I am starting to get genuinely worried about this. They could have easily released a statement today rubbishing claims it will be null and void and they haven't.

They're hardly going to release any statement that is definitive right now when no one has a clue what state the world will be in next week or in the coming weeks. They can't promise it wont be a void league and then when things become impossible to continue turn round and say oh yeah sorry it is void after all.

This delay until April let's them sit back and see what unfolds. There'll be all sorts of shite in the media and online in this time, but you won't have a clear answer about what is happening with this league until April 3rd at the very earliest.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #311 on: March 13, 2020, 10:07:33 pm »
Apologies if this had been mentioned before but according to someone in the know on talksport earlier the season has to be completed otherwise there will be massive financial penalties from broadcasters who have paid for rights to show games.

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« Reply #312 on: March 13, 2020, 10:14:26 pm »
Apologies if this had been mentioned before but according to someone in the know on talksport earlier the season has to be completed otherwise there will be massive financial penalties from broadcasters who have paid for rights to show games.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #313 on: March 13, 2020, 10:21:12 pm »
I wasn’t actually worried about the season being abandoned until listening to Dan Roan reporting for BBC1 news tonight and he says it is a real possibility.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #314 on: March 13, 2020, 10:25:51 pm »
Just a random question, but if the season is halted for a prolonged period, what would happen to players with contracts that are expiring, I can only assume short term deals would be offered until the season was completed.

Anyway, hope everyone affected makes a speedy recovery.

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« Reply #315 on: March 13, 2020, 10:25:52 pm »
I wasn’t actually worried about the season being abandoned until listening to Dan Roan reporting for BBC1 news tonight and he says it is a real possibility.

He also said this earlier on

But as it stands, there seems to be a determination to complete the season if at all possible.

Simply stopping the season as it stands now seems unlikely given it would run the risk of legal action from clubs relegated or denied promotion.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #316 on: March 13, 2020, 10:27:59 pm »
Being abandoned doesn't mean we won't get the title though? Like when a game is abandoned after 70 mins the result stands. Being null and void is what we don't want.

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #317 on: March 13, 2020, 10:28:03 pm »
I can’t see the season being abandoned, too many complications with this. Not just us winning the league but other teams like Wolves, Sheff Utd who could have the possibility of European football next season, which has financial implications. On top of that are the teams in the lower division, those who would otherwise have been promoted are instead punished...

That alone just makes abandoning the season a non starter really.

However the most important thing is beating this shitty virus, and eradicating it so that all of life and go on as normal rather than being put on hold...

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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #318 on: March 13, 2020, 10:29:54 pm »
For me cancelling sporting events is pointless if the football players kids are still going to school and families are still socialising. How on earth is that going to have any impact when everyone else is still functioning as normal.

Either there is a complete lockdown or we function as normal. As mentioned before if there would be around 500,000 people attending football matches across say the prem and championship this weekend but 2,000,000 using the london tube everyday (god knows the total on public transport) how is cancelling games going to make any difference in the here and now. I understand cancelling Arsenal and chelsea's game but everyone else should have continued if fit to do so. Unless there is tighter restrictions on the public in general than cancelling sporting events is a drop in the ocean. Honestly don't think we will be seeing anymore football now this side of summer.
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Re: Premier League suspended until 3rd April
« Reply #319 on: March 13, 2020, 10:34:35 pm »
Fucking Friday the 13th ladies and gents. A horrible day for us reds, let's hope it's not going to get worse and the death toll starts to rack up.

I'm sure we will have football in June and July, but maybe not before. Let's hope we have past the worst of it by May.
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