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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11240 on: October 8, 2020, 12:09:40 AM »
And another little detail, the word robot comes from a Slavic word for work, so the short of it, "bot", must mean "ork". Cut the Orks loose! ;D

"Robot" comes from an old Czech word which meant 'Slave'! Which of course sums it all up.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11241 on: October 8, 2020, 01:09:50 AM »
"Robot" comes from an old Czech word which meant 'Slave'! Which of course sums it all up.
Not quite, but there is something to that... The word in Czech is “robota”, or “rabota” in other Slavic languages, which means exactly “work”.  It that’s the current meaning; in the very old days it meant “forced work” (coz who works...😁)
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11242 on: October 8, 2020, 05:56:54 AM »
We're bots really here.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11243 on: October 8, 2020, 06:55:19 AM »
So, to sum up, they cheat, on the pitch, off the pitch, in the courtrooms and now on the internet.

I'll be back.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11244 on: October 8, 2020, 07:28:25 PM »
So, to sum up, they cheat, on the pitch, off the pitch, in the courtrooms and now on the internet.

I'll be back.

But they were exonerated at CAS , the two judges that city appointed said they weren’t guilty as anything that happened more than 5 years ago doesn’t matter. They were fined £10m but that was only to cover their two judges expenses.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11245 on: October 9, 2020, 05:20:54 PM »
Pep has never lasted 5 years at a club and had to also fix something that was clearly broken.  Can he actually do it is the question?  I think once they get one of Aguero/Jesus back that they'll have too many good attackers for it to matter.  With that said it's pretty crazy how consistently worse they are getting in defense with all that money spent not seemingly able to overcome Fernandinho aging out.  I can't see them falling out of the top 4 but if this stays this way all season I could see Pep leaving.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11246 on: October 11, 2020, 02:36:23 PM »
So we and the mancs have colluded in wanting to get rid of the League Cup to stop City's domination of the trophy right?

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11247 on: October 11, 2020, 03:15:46 PM »
So we and the mancs have colluded in wanting to get rid of the League Cup to stop City's domination of the trophy right?

And stricter FFP :D
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11250 on: October 18, 2020, 10:41:07 AM »
Kun Aguero likely in trouble for touching the lineswoman:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/uefa-champions-league/sergio-aguero-pep-guardiola-defends-manchester-city-striker-over-sian-massey-ellis-incident/ar-BB1a8gCs?ocid=msedgntp

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11252 on: October 18, 2020, 10:45:18 AM »
Seen the incident, it wasn’t aggressive but she shrugged him off like it was uncomfortable for her

Either way he should be punished
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11253 on: October 18, 2020, 01:15:48 PM »
Seen the incident, it wasn’t aggressive but she shrugged him off like it was uncomfortable for her

Either way he should be punished

It was demeaning.

Of course the drug cheat, racism apologist and sportswashing supreme Pep saw nothing wrong with it. That means it’s ok because he wears nice cardigans.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11254 on: October 18, 2020, 01:20:09 PM »
Seen the incident, it wasn’t aggressive but she shrugged him off like it was uncomfortable for her

Either way he should be punished
He's got no business having his hands anywhere near her.

It's harassment and a reportable offense in the workplace.

Keep your fucking hands to yourself

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11255 on: October 18, 2020, 02:13:53 PM »
If you did that to a female colleague in a work meeting you would be sacked for gross misconduct. He looked at her like she has no place being there. Having said that when you are  sportwashing for a deeply misogynistic regime you know you’ll be backed to the hilt.  I accept that football is different to an office environment of course.  Pickford and Richarliason would be prosecuted never mind sacked if it was.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11256 on: October 18, 2020, 02:18:40 PM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_XNINEBa1I" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_XNINEBa1I</a>

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11257 on: October 18, 2020, 02:24:59 PM »
He's got no business having his hands anywhere near her.

It's harassment and a reportable offense in the workplace.

Keep your fucking hands to yourself
This.

Cant believe anyone would argue otherwise. Imagine if every player decided to have a go at putting their arm round the female referee. That could get pretty tiresome and icky. Plus, we live in an age of social distancing, so like you said: Keep your fucking hands to yourself!!

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« Reply #11258 on: October 18, 2020, 03:01:15 PM »
This.

Cant believe anyone would argue otherwise. Imagine if every player decided to have a go at putting their arm round the female referee. That could get pretty tiresome and icky. Plus, we live in an age of social distancing, so like you said: Keep your fucking hands to yourself!!

Ignoring the gender, you touch an official and it's supposed to be a straight red regardless of the intent of it.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11259 on: October 18, 2020, 04:13:00 PM »
According to Pep you’re allowed to do bad things if you’re a nice guy. Bernardo being racist? Aguero grabbing a female linesman? Forget about it. They’re nice guys.

He can easily condemn his players actions without hanging them out to dry, but he doesn’t. He’s a prat.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11260 on: October 18, 2020, 04:15:06 PM »
I've only just seen this, what a squirt Aguero is. He shouldn't have his hands anywhere near an official anyway. Guardiola can bugger off too with his comments.  :no
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11261 on: October 18, 2020, 05:09:10 PM »
Ignoring the gender, you touch an official and it's supposed to be a straight red regardless of the intent of it.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11262 on: October 18, 2020, 05:44:04 PM »
He’s touching her neck as well which makes it worse in my opinion. The neck is very intimate for many people.

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« Reply #11264 on: October 18, 2020, 07:28:45 PM »
Seen the incident, it wasn’t aggressive but she shrugged him off like it was uncomfortable for her

Either way he should be punished

An action he would not have taken with a male assistant referee so sexist at the very least.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11265 on: October 18, 2020, 08:38:05 PM »
It seems a few people are trying to downplay this on the grounds that it wasn't "aggressive"

Lets get it straight, you can be guilty of inappropriately touching a match official without being "aggressive"   

Hes lucky to have gotten away with that, big time!
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11266 on: October 18, 2020, 09:16:12 PM »
It seems a few people are trying to downplay this on the grounds that it wasn't "aggressive"

Lets get it straight, you can be guilty of inappropriately touching a match official without being "aggressive"   

Hes lucky to have gotten away with that, big time!

Yep. Seen plenty of former players saying he should have received some form of punishment. Absolute nonsense that he got nothing

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« Reply #11267 on: October 18, 2020, 09:19:23 PM »
It seems to have been the “do whatever the fuck you like and get away with it” weekend.  We must not have got the memo.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11268 on: October 19, 2020, 08:10:33 PM »
A lot of people predictably making the Aguero thing about the fact that the person he did it to is a woman, rather than the fact that he did it at all.

It’s not acceptable to grab an official by the neck, or anyone by the neck for that matter, but the fact the ref is female is irrelevant. It can and does happen now and again between player and official, the most high profile example being the Di Canio incident.

Aguero should have been sent off and should be retrospectively banned but let’s face it that won’t be fucking happening

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11269 on: October 19, 2020, 08:21:42 PM »
Thought it was weird

If he’d just placed ok but the downward force was just weird. What’s he trying to do ?
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11270 on: October 19, 2020, 09:32:01 PM »
Nothing incident. We move on.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11271 on: October 20, 2020, 06:11:11 AM »
Did VAR look at that Aguero "incident"?

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11272 on: October 22, 2020, 10:41:32 AM »
Touching a ref is not an instant red card, it's a yellow unless it's aggressive. I agree though that this could be seen as sexually aggressive because it is a part of our bodies that we do not invite strangers to touch, unlike say a handshake, which in itself this year has become a no-no.
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« Reply #11273 on: October 22, 2020, 10:50:39 AM »
Touching a ref is not an instant red card, it's a yellow unless it's aggressive. I agree though that this could be seen as sexually aggressive because it is a part of our bodies that we do not invite strangers to touch, unlike say a handshake, which in itself this year has become a no-no.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11274 on: October 22, 2020, 12:10:27 PM »
Fernandinho's out long term.


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« Reply #11275 on: October 22, 2020, 05:01:10 PM »
Fernandinho's out long term.

Not VVD long term though, only 4-6 weeks;

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11276 on: October 23, 2020, 10:46:15 AM »
Touching a ref is not an instant red card, it's a yellow unless it's aggressive. I agree though that this could be seen as sexually aggressive because it is a part of our bodies that we do not invite strangers to touch, unlike say a handshake, which in itself this year has become a no-no.

Whilst I agree he shouldn't have been touching an official whether male or female, but sexually aggressive?
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11277 on: October 23, 2020, 10:54:26 AM »
Whilst I agree he shouldn't have been touching an official whether male or female, but sexually aggressive?


He's trying to exert his dominance over her. There can be little question of that.

It's a very condescending way to touch any female. I'd not stand for anyone touching me like that.

I doubt it's the worst thing Massey has faced, but speak honestly to the woman you're closet to. I'm sure she's faced worse too.

But it's another example of how men act around women. It's not saying he's Harvey Weinstein. But equally it's not "nothing"
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11278 on: October 23, 2020, 11:26:58 AM »

He's trying to exert his dominance over her. There can be little question of that.

It's a very condescending way to touch any female. I'd not stand for anyone touching me like that.

I doubt it's the worst thing Massey has faced, but speak honestly to the woman you're closet to. I'm sure she's faced worse too.

But it's another example of how men act around women. It's not saying he's Harvey Weinstein. But equally it's not "nothing"

Lets say it was a male linesman - and Aguero does the same - is that sexually aggressive?

I agree with the point that a) You shouldn't touch and official and b) male and female interactions are viewed differently but this appears to be being blown out of proportion. If Aguero was fronting her up aggressively/physically forcing her down/arms around waist etc I'd agree.

And I know this is a totally different scenario, but if you're in the pub with mates, and one put his arm around your neck, do you tell him to back off?
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #11279 on: October 23, 2020, 11:40:14 AM »
Lets say it was a male linesman - and Aguero does the same - is that sexually aggressive?

I agree with the point that a) You shouldn't touch and official and b) male and female interactions are viewed differently but this appears to be being blown out of proportion. If Aguero was fronting her up aggressively/physically forcing her down/arms around waist etc I'd agree.

And I know this is a totally different scenario, but if you're in the pub with mates, and one put his arm around your neck, do you tell him to back off?

As with anything it depends.

If a mate puts a hand on my neck like that in a situation where I'm upset, or they are congratulating me or something it's nothing.

If someone is in a confrontation with me and approaches me from behind and does that I'm acting in a different way.

Of course it's not sexual aggresion if he did it to say Anthony Taylor.

It doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. But it does mean I, other men and many, many women saw it, and thought it was incredibly creepy
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