Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[Eeyore]

I was thinking about taking up cycling again just to get some air, sun and exercise during all of this. I'm assuming that's okay as I won't be getting close to other people ideally, or is it a shitty idea?

I think you should be fine for now as long as you avoid certain cyclists.



However I think it is pretty inevitable that we will end up in a similar situation to the likes of Italy in which people are only allowed out for essential activities.

May be get a set of rollers so you can cycle indoors or in the garden if you an outside space just in case.

[Eeyore]

I have it lads, been told to stay away from work etc, seems like only a mild case, cold like symptoms, headaches, aches and pains, severe lethargy, I watch those videos of those poor people on ventilation etc and feel equal pity and shame, for getting off so lightly.

Have you been tested mate.

[Zeb]

My daughter and my two granddaughters, along with my partner, who lives in Wolverhampton, have all self isolated. They all exhibit the classic symptoms and yet, are coping.

I may well be next, given I was with my partner last weekend and there is an evident gestation period. I’m 72, but in generally good health. What will be will be. I’m as certain as anyone can be, from all the evidence, that the bulk of those infected are either asymptomatic, or have an immune system sufficiently strong to make a recovery.

Definitely looking like there's a lot of people barely noticing they've got it way it's been spreading. Hope all your's recover quickly and, if it doesn't miss you completely, that it's one of the milder cases the vast majority of any age group will get.

[Peabee]

I've been reading reports that if you're a couple, you BOTH have to be key workers to qualify for school, nursery support, otherwise the none key worker must look after any children. This has been causing concerns, because for some couples, the none key worker's job is viewed as their "primary" support or more crucial element to said couple's economic stability and prospects etc...

No, one parent. Don’t share rumours on the back of something you’ve heard. That’s what lead to a lot of the panic buying. I’ve had messages from mates saying they’ve heard this and that from govt sources. When I actually do know someone who has had meetings with the chancellor so know it’s all bollocks.

[Peabee]

I have it lads, been told to stay away from work etc, seems like only a mild case, cold like symptoms, headaches, aches and pains, severe lethargy, I watch those videos of those poor people on ventilation etc and feel equal pity and shame, for getting off so lightly.

If you haven’t been tested, you’re gonna have to assume you haven’t had it for now. Do you have a fever or cough?

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Have you been tested mate.

Nope, but I'm exhibiting all the common symptoms, called 111, and was told to only seek medical help if my breathing is affected, my breathing isn't affected, but my chest and back are very sore, and sometimes I have to take a deep intake of breath, thanks for the concern everyone, but I'm genuinely not that ill, and I'm on around day 3 or 4.

[Peabee]

If I'm working in the office working I use about 10MB per hour just browsing. If i put spotify on that goes up to about 80Mb per hour. If I work from home i'll need more because I'm now using a vpn tunnel to transfer data that may previously have been done on a local network. Now - If I'm at home and put netflix on in 4K it'll be >7GB per hour. If suddenly the whole world is at home doing the same it's a significant increase in load. As someone who works in IT it strikes me as a reasonable and logical measure to take.

I’ve changed my Playing settings to medium. Probably a good idea if we all did that during the day.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

If you haven’t been tested, you’re gonna have to assume you haven’t had it for now. Do you have a fever or cough?

Yes I've had a dry cough and hot flushes all the time, I've read up extensively about it mate, there are a variety of symptoms and 4 distinct classes of it, you can have some symptoms but not others, it isn't the flu as I'm vaccinated for the flu, and this feels different to anything I've ever had

[The North Bank]

If you haven’t been tested, you’re gonna have to assume you haven’t had it for now. Do you have a fever or cough?

Better to assume you have it than not. Better safe than sorry.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Better to assume you have it than not. Better safe than sorry.

Yeah there's no access to testing and I'd rather the NHS dealt with the critical cases than pissing around testing people with mild symptoms

[24/7]

Yeah there's no access to testing and I'd rather the NHS dealt with the critical cases than pissing around testing people with mild symptoms

Get well soon fella.

[24/7]

Some people have posted that they have work woes. Someone else suggested contacting the supermarkets for some temp work.

This just in on the Beeb.......

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51976075

Supermarkets Tesco, Asda, Aldi and Lidl go on hiring spree

[Peabee]

At some point, don't people actually have enough product? As in, can't fit anymore into the kitchen enough?

Supermarkets were very busy here (Amsterdam) last weekend when the partial lockdown started. But yesterday morning, it was eerily quiet. Lowish stock on fresh food, no rice and loo roll as per, but pretty good for everything else.

There’s a few videos of people showing their well stocked provisions. Some have enough for a year. I’m willing to bet those at the supermarkets are the same ones clogging up all the home delivery slots.

By the way, re delivery slots, be patient. It’s clear that not all are booked and some are reserving slots as I spent some time checking slots this afternoon and three popped up for Sunday on Sainsbury’s, which I left for someone else, then two popped up in two weeks with Asda and I booked one. Managed to get one for the 26th April with Waitrose too giving me some peace of mind for the next month or so.  I’ll not book any more and make sure I amend my orders to ensure that I have enough without going nuts.

[Peabee]

Better to assume you have it than not. Better safe than sorry.

What I mean is afterwards, so he doesn’t think he’s immune. I wasn’t clear.

[Peabee]

Yes I've had a dry cough and hot flushes all the time, I've read up extensively about it mate, there are a variety of symptoms and 4 distinct classes of it, you can have some symptoms but not others, it isn't the flu as I'm vaccinated for the flu, and this feels different to anything I've ever had

Yeah mate, I just mean so you don’t think you’re immune and avoid precautions. Hope you feel better soon.

[Schmidt]

I think you should be fine for now as long as you avoid certain cyclists.

However I think it is pretty inevitable that we will end up in a similar situation to the likes of Italy in which people are only allowed out for essential activities.

May be get a set of rollers so you can cycle indoors or in the garden if you an outside space just in case.

Yeah I was looking at rollers, I felt myself slowly creeping towards more and more expensive ones as I went though so gave up in the end. Might just get something dirt cheap to try.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I've been working at home all week, sounds great right? But in reality I find it really intense, I have an office setup for work and start really early, sometimes at 6am, as I would going into the office. I achieve alot but also get mithered alot with Skype calls and emails etc. When working at home I quite often forget to eat and drink because I just get into the zone. Anyway by Thursday night I'd had enough, logged out and switched everything off and booked a flexiday today (Friday). Now that my managers have my personal mobile number for 'duty of care' reasons I was getting mithered today, even though I'm not in work.

I needed to get out and went to play golf with some mates, they've banned us taking the pins out and using the rakes in bunkers (they are GUR) due to the virus. We no longer shake hands and just touch clubs, it was a godsend to get out into the open air and do some exercise.

I've been working from home for the past 3 days. Means I can get up at a reasonable time and when I finish, I am finished. But being in the house, or having nothing to do outside, is just doing me in.

Theres nothing but boredom, mixed with nothing but misery in the news. Nothing to look forward to in the near future, nothing to break the cycle of tedium.

I dont want to be selfish, people have dealt with worse and deal with worse, but it's just an all round bad situation. I know it must be done, but I would be lying if I said it wasnt rough. And we've barely even begun.

[Wabaloolah]

Yep.

It's why it felt a bit churlish me asking after my situation earlier when I am going to be kept on for 3 days a week at least - hopefully until this is over. But I guess we all want clarity on our particular situations.

Working Tax Credit has been increased by £1k per annum too. Might be worth looking into if your wages have been reduced due to a reduction in hours

[Schmidt]

I've been working from home for the past 3 days. Means I can get up at a reasonable time and when I finish, I am finished. But being in the house, or having nothing to do outside, is just doing me in.

Theres nothing but boredom, mixed with nothing but misery in the news. Nothing to look forward to in the near future, nothing to break the cycle of tedium.

I dont want to be selfish, people have dealt with worse and deal with worse, but it's just an all round bad situation. I know it must be done, but I would be lying if I said it wasnt rough. And we've barely even begun.

The news was bothering me too, now I just check into this thread once a day maybe and avoid it the rest of the time. I know the situation is evolving fast but watching the constant news stream all day as the same things get regurgitated over and over is not good, it was definitely stressing me out.

[Hij]

Yes I've had a dry cough and hot flushes all the time, I've read up extensively about it mate, there are a variety of symptoms and 4 distinct classes of it, you can have some symptoms but not others, it isn't the flu as I'm vaccinated for the flu, and this feels different to anything I've ever had

Whole thing is crazy because it literally falls in the middle of loads of other diseases.

About 8/9 days ago I had hot flushes, new cough, big headaches and a few aches and pains. No idea if it was the disease or not.

[Macphisto80]

This whole thing has left us anxious and fearful. More galling than being self-employed and expected to live on £94 a week is that people on social media are labelling all of us as tax dodgers.  Between myself and my wife, we pay five-figure tax bills every year. We put everything through the books because we believe in the system. If it continues like this, my faith in the system will have broken. Why be legit and pay towards a safety net that will never be offered to you when I could start taking cash?

£94 a week will barely cover the operational costs of us being self-employed (our recurring business expenses that exist as part of our job), never mind give us enough to live on.

Being from NI, I'm used to feeling second-class in the UK, but this is such a kicking when all we needed was a helping hand.

Probably worth a discussion in another thread. Had the same conversation with a mate earlier. But you're 100% right about everything you're saying here. The system is broken, and has been broken for a very long time now. Doesn't matter how long and hard you've worked for. What matters is how much you're earning, and who you know. The people on social media being critical of those being self employed are all a bunch of hypocritical c*nts anyway.

[Wabaloolah]

No, one parent. Don’t share rumours on the back of something you’ve heard. That’s what lead to a lot of the panic buying. I’ve had messages from mates saying they’ve heard this and that from govt sources. When I actually do know someone who has had meetings with the chancellor so know it’s all bollocks.

yep, my missus has been designated an essential worked as she works with vulnerable adults in supported accommodation. My daughter is eligible to go to one of the childcare schools but as she's 15, she has decided not to goto the school though as I'm going to be working at home, as is my lad so she can earn her corn bringing regular cups of tea!

[Peabee]

It's a matter of time before he's in the top job isn't it. I'm no tory voter but I found that seriously impressive and exactly what was needed.

A mate of mine is somewhat a socialist and works for the govt. he’s had to move departments to work on covid-19 and he has had meetings chaired/attended by Sunak. He’s massively impressed by him. He says he’s one of the most charming, intelligent and insightful people he’s met in the govt. yes, he married into money with his wife’s family being wealthy, but he’s not from the upper classes. His mum ran a pharmacy and his dad was a GP, so find it harsh he gets is accused of as coming from a billionaire family.

[Wabaloolah]

Just had a spam text, goes without saying nobody should click on the link if they get it. link has been edited for safety reasons

URGENT: The UKGOV has issued a payment of £258 to all residents as part of its promise to battle COVID 19. TAP here https://uk-covid-19-relieve.bollocks to apply

[Motty]

They have well and truly fucked over the 5 million self employed in this country, up to £2500 a month for the employed and only £376 for us. Not sure how they can come to the conclusion that clearly people need help in this crisis but somehow have left out 5 million of those to fend for themselves. Tory c*nts [emoji35]

[Black Bull Nova]

From what I've read, Wuhan could be a disaster once people are allowed to mix again.

Hopefully not.

I think the Chinese Government are capable of stopping people mix, I doubt that will be possible in Bangladesh or some parts of India

[Wabaloolah]

There’s a few videos of people showing their well stocked provisions. Some have enough for a year. I’m willing to bet those at the supermarkets are the same ones clogging up all the home delivery slots.

By the way, re delivery slots, be patient. It’s clear that not all are booked and some are reserving slots as I spent some time checking slots this afternoon and three popped up for Sunday on Sainsbury’s, which I left for someone else, then two popped up in two weeks with Asda and I booked one. Managed to get one for the 26th April with Waitrose too giving me some peace of mind for the next month or so.  I’ll not book any more and make sure I amend my orders to ensure that I have enough without going nuts.

ordered from Asda on Tuesday, delivery due to come on Monday, went in to check what I'd ordered and 80% of it was listed as Out of stock with no product alternatives! Panic buying c*nts

[Peabee]

ordered from Asda on Tuesday, delivery due to come on Monday, went in to check what I'd ordered and 80% of it was listed as Out of stock with no product alternatives! Panic buying c*nts

Don’t delete them as that was the same with some of my items the other week, but by the time it came to pick them they were back in stock.

[Wabaloolah]

They have well and truly fucked over the 5 million self employed in this country, up to £2500 a month for the employed and only £376 for us. Not sure how they can come to the conclusion that clearly people need help in this crisis but somehow have left out 5 million of those to fend for themselves. Tory c*nts [emoji35]

criminal they did nothing about SSP. It is a joke that they think £94 a week is enough for anyone to live on

[Wabaloolah]

Don’t delete them as that was the same with some of my items the other week, but by the time it came to pick them they were back in stock.

ah OK thanks for that was going to do that tomorrow and look at other things

[Motty]

criminal they did nothing about SSP. It is a joke that they think £94 a week is enough for anyone to live on

I'm just hoping they have a solution for us incoming, I'm not holding my breath though. We will just keep going out working and infecting people until they pay us to stay off as well then [emoji2369]

[Motty]

criminal they did nothing about SSP. It is a joke that they think £94 a week is enough for anyone to live on

I'm just hoping they have a solution for us incoming, I'm not holding my breath though. We will just keep going out working and infecting people until they pay us to stay off as well then [emoji2369]

[Peabee]

ah OK thanks for that was going to do that tomorrow and look at other things

Up to you mate. I don’t wanna make you miss out on the other things if you decide to do the same as me. It might be a different scenario. Maybe check just before the deadline for amending your order? Or order both and donate the alternatives to a food bank (if you’re in a position to do so).

[Peabee]

The interventions in Italy are helping. 166% increase in the last week versus 281% the previous week.

[Zeb]

The interventions in Italy are helping. 166% increase in the last week versus 281% the previous week.

Looking by eye at the R0 curve, looks 2 to 3 weeks before peak cases really start to fall away? Is that what you'd think from doing maths juju on it?

[Macphisto80]

Just want it to fuck off.

[Peabee]

Looking by eye at the R0 curve, looks 2 to 3 weeks before peak cases really start to fall away? Is that what you'd think from doing maths juju on it?

Italy have gone from 22.5% average daily increase (average of w/e 6 Mar), to 21% (w/e 13) to 15% (this week). I think it was 30%+ in earlier weeks.

It may take a few weeks. Even 1% increase per day is exponential, just that it takes 70 days to double, if it’s continuous. We want to see that daily/weekly increase fall each week. The curve is flattening slightly. Not extremely as China, but Italy didn’t act quick enough.



Scarily, we have had 399% increase in the last week. 386% the week prior.

[Zeb]

We’ve gone from 22.5% average daily increase (average of w/e 6 Mar), to 21% (w/e 13) to 15% (this week). I think it was 30%+ in earlier weeks.

It may take a few weeks. Even 1% increase per day is exponential, just that it takes 70 days to double, if it’s continuous. We want to see that daily/weekly increase fall each week. The curve is flattening slightly. Not extremely as China, but Italy didn’t act quick enough.

Ta for setting that out, especially the exponential bit. Questions about personal privacy vs public health ahead then if people can't be sensible themselves.

edit: just seen your edit. Just before Neil Ferguson went down with it himself, he did an interview where he was saying what you were earlier that it had started to double every 3 to 4 days here.

[Max_powers]

Italy have gone from 22.5% average daily increase (average of w/e 6 Mar), to 21% (w/e 13) to 15% (this week). I think it was 30%+ in earlier weeks.

It may take a few weeks. Even 1% increase per day is exponential, just that it takes 70 days to double, if it’s continuous. We want to see that daily/weekly increase fall each week. The curve is flattening slightly. Not extremely as China, but Italy didn’t act quick enough.



Scarily, we have had 399% increase in the last week. 386% the week prior.

1% increase may be exponential but it will allow patients to recover and beds to be emptied before the next batch  of patients comes in. (Ie. flattening the curve) However, I still think had more strict action been taken earlier 1-2 months would have been enough to stop the spread as with China and Korea cases.

[Peabee]

Ta for setting that out, especially the exponential bit. Questions about personal privacy vs public health ahead then if people can't be sensible themselves.

edit: just seen your edit. Just before Neil Ferguson went down with it himself, he did an interview where he was saying what you were earlier that it had started to double every 3 to 4 days here.

Just edited again as I was talking about Italy until my final sentence, not sure why I used “we” !

The U.K. are are at just under 26% daily increase on average for the last week. That’s a 3 day doubling time. We would be on 32000 a week on Sunday left at that rate!  This is recorded cases, which are serious enough for testing of course. Likely to be many people at home.