Author Topic: Six Nations 2020 (Read 20802 times)

MBL? · « **Reply #280 on:** February 23, 2020, 12:43:49 am »

Quote from: Welshred on February 22, 2020, 11:37:42 pm

Yet wouldn't have lost if the deliberate knock on that prevented a try was properly given...

Wales last try looked a knock on against a french hand before regathering.

ABZ Rover · « **Reply #281 on:** February 23, 2020, 09:49:31 am »

Quote from: Welshred on February 22, 2020, 11:37:42 pm

Yet wouldn't have lost if the deliberate knock on that prevented a try was properly given...

Yes, and if the French try in the first half had not been ruled out....

If, but, what about....

Best team won.

Agent99 · « **Reply #282 on:** February 23, 2020, 10:00:21 am »

Good game for the neutral that was. Dan Biggar is a real knobhead though.

Carrafan · « **Reply #283 on:** February 23, 2020, 02:00:48 pm »

Anyone got a stream for this game? Watching overseas. Thanks

Welshred · « **Reply #284 on:** February 23, 2020, 02:15:32 pm »

Quote from: ABZ Rover on February 23, 2020, 09:49:31 am

Yes, and if the French try in the first half had not been ruled out....

If, but, what about....

Best team won.

Not denying that France were the better team but there's a huge difference with getting to 27-23 with 15 minutes to go than with 5 minutes to go, especially with France down to 14. It was a huge mistake which changed the whole complexion of the game at that point.

Robinred · « **Reply #285 on:** February 23, 2020, 02:25:23 pm »

Looking forward to this game from HQ.

Think whichever pack gains the upper hand will determine the outcome - and they are two powerful and mobile units. There is likely to be a lot of tactical kicking too.

Too close to call (so expect a big points win from one of them🙄)

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #286 on:** February 23, 2020, 02:26:49 pm »

Games against Ireland are the least enjoyable, because losing to them is worse than any other team.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #287 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:02:19 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on February 23, 2020, 02:26:49 pm

Games against Ireland are the least enjoyable, because losing to them is worse than any other team.

Worst to lose to in order:

Wales

Ireland

Scotland

France

Italy (n/a)

Agent99 · « **Reply #288 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:06:19 pm »

Ireland infringing constantly and not getting penalised. What a surprise.

Libertine · « **Reply #289 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:10:16 pm »

Sexton has started well. Inane kicking and then gifts them a try.

Robinred · « **Reply #290 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:15:21 pm »

Quote from: Libertine on February 23, 2020, 03:10:16 pm

Sexton has started well. Inane kicking and then gifts them a try.

Good mockers that...

Ray K · « **Reply #291 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:15:46 pm »

Fucking hell

Ray K · « **Reply #292 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:29:37 pm »

That's absolutely criminal from Stockdale.
In line with the rest of this Ireland performance though.

MBL? · « **Reply #293 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:39:01 pm »

We’ve been so shite. Points difference already to great.

Libertine · « **Reply #294 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:43:08 pm »

Can't recall a worse performance from Ireland. Abysmal in every aspect. England aren't even that good, just been gifted every point.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #295 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:43:44 pm »

Ireland are so one dimensional it's untrue.

England seem to have more players. Defence has been excellent.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #296 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:44:37 pm »

A satisfying 40 minutes of rugby union.

Welshred · « **Reply #297 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:45:25 pm »

Quote from: Libertine on February 23, 2020, 03:43:08 pm

Can't recall a worse performance from Ireland. Abysmal in every aspect. England aren't even that good, just been gifted every point.

England have been very, very good today

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #298 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:45:51 pm »

Quote from: MBL? on February 23, 2020, 03:39:01 pm

We’ve been so shite. Points difference already to great.

Scotland would fancy beating us from here. Toughen up.

Ray K · « **Reply #299 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:48:42 pm »

Quote from: Libertine on February 23, 2020, 03:43:08 pm

Can't recall a worse performance from Ireland. Abysmal in every aspect. England aren't even that good, just been gifted every point.

Excuse me, bit of respect, I went to the warm-up in September in Twickenham.
Though I honestly feel this could get really out of hand and England might hit 50 again.

MBL? · « **Reply #300 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:50:13 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on February 23, 2020, 03:45:51 pm

Scotland would fancy beating us from here. Toughen up.

We are a realistic bunch. The Scots should put the buckfast down.

DonkeyWan · « **Reply #301 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:50:20 pm »

Well, that was atrocious. I wish Toner would just fuck off, he was never that good, now he is barely mobile. Sexton, overrated, cost 10 points with a brainless bit of defending and a a missed easy chance. Murray is a shadow of his former self. Pack looks awful and old. Really miss Leavy. Farrell has got this all wrong.

planet-terror · « **Reply #302 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:50:46 pm »

What time does Ireland start?

DonkeyWan · « **Reply #303 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:55:33 pm »

Andy Farrell will not last long like this.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #304 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:56:49 pm »

Quote from: DonkeyWan on February 23, 2020, 03:50:20 pm

Well, that was atrocious. I wish Toner would just fuck off, he was never that good, now he is barely mobile. Sexton, overrated, cost 10 points with a brainless bit of defending and a a missed easy chance. Murray is a shadow of his former self. Pack looks awful and old. Really miss Leavy. Farrell has got this all wrong.

But other than that how’s it been?

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #305 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:57:54 pm »

Farrell (A) should've stuck with rugby league

DonkeyWan · « **Reply #306 on:** February 23, 2020, 03:58:37 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on February 23, 2020, 03:56:49 pm

But other than that how’s it been?

I think my favourite bit so far has been watching Stockdale try to see a ball out as an England player runs beside him to score...

Ray K · « **Reply #307 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:00:07 pm »

Quote from: DonkeyWan on February 23, 2020, 03:55:33 pm

Andy Farrell will not last long like this.

They beat Wales with a BP last time, so I think he's OK.

His problem was picking Murray vs Scotland. Keeping him and Sexton meant that our game plan was always going to be the same. Giving Cooney the first two games would have given us the chance to play differently.
We can't come from behind against teams, and now it's going to be damage limitation. Very unfair to throw Cooney on now and expecting him to return it around.

Quote from: DonkeyWan on February 23, 2020, 03:50:20 pm

Well, that was atrocious. I wish Toner would just fuck off, he was never that good, now he is barely mobile.

Front 5 are getting killed. But Henderson was poor first two games so I don't think him over Toner would change anything. We're really threadbare in the front row.

Robinred · « **Reply #308 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:11:54 pm »

Second day running that we’ve seen a bad outbreak of white line fever.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #309 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:13:51 pm »

Game not over yet.

Welshred · « **Reply #310 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:15:06 pm »

What has happened to Sexton's kicking? He was terrible against Wales too

Ray K · « **Reply #311 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:15:17 pm »

Peyper is fucking useless. Farrell deserved a yellow, yet it was the TMO who called it and not him who was a yard away.
Three more pens from England and no warning either.

But we needed that start to the half. Sexton shouldn't kick any more.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #312 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:39:19 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on February 23, 2020, 04:15:17 pm

Peyper is fucking useless. Farrell deserved a yellow, yet it was the TMO who called it and not him who was a yard away.
Three more pens from England and no warning either.

But we needed that start to the half. Sexton shouldn't kick any more.

Would have liked at least a look at the late tackle on May too guv.

A bonus point could be useful here although based on this it’s hard not to see France completing the Slam.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #313 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:51:54 pm »

Ireland are dog. Should’ve got the bonus point really but beating them is enough.

Ray K · « **Reply #314 on:** February 23, 2020, 04:53:46 pm »

All Ireland at the end. If it went on for another 10 minutes we would have won it

I was expecting an England win beforehand, so on paper 24-12 doesn't look that bad but we were piss-poor for most of the game.

mickeydocs · « **Reply #315 on:** February 23, 2020, 06:13:05 pm »

Quote from: Ray K on February 23, 2020, 04:00:07 pm

They beat Wales with a BP last time, so I think he's OK.

His problem was picking Murray vs Scotland. Keeping him and Sexton meant that our game plan was always going to be the same.

First of all great credit to England. Great performance and clearly well coached on how to beat Ireland. The upper hand has returned based on the last three games. Lots of top physical players in their prime and no doubt it will be France v England fighting for the 6 nations for the foreseeable future.

Ireland will be back but we only if we do a reboot. Plenty of quality coming through, players that deserve their chance in the way Gatland had the foresight to do many years ago. Accept a couple of tough six nations to allow for future success.
Cooney is 29 years old. He is better than Murray at this moment in time and deserves a chance in the now, however there are some great scrum half coming through and need to be fast-tracked.
France have the balls to rewrite the script.
Murray, Sexton, Toner, Healy, O'Mahony all need to be replaced. Furlong's form is very worrying but he has plenty of years ahead of him. Tough calls need to be made yet the appointment of Sexton as team captain is a pretty bad start. A new management team was needed yet we appointed from within Schmidt's back room.

mickeydocs · « **Reply #316 on:** February 23, 2020, 06:13:48 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on February 23, 2020, 04:51:54 pm

Ireland are dog. Should’ve got the bonus point really but beating them is enough.

Thank you for being a gracious winner.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #317 on:** February 23, 2020, 06:27:44 pm »

Quote from: mickeydocs on February 23, 2020, 06:13:48 pm

Thank you for being a gracious winner.

As ever, away wins between the big four are very rare. That win for France yesterday will probably win it for them.

MBL? · « **Reply #318 on:** February 23, 2020, 06:56:44 pm »

It could happen but I really don’t see anyone dominating for the next few years. We certainly need to make changes quicker and play form players. I think it’s one of the few downsides of our system here with centralised contracts.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #319 on:** February 23, 2020, 07:02:48 pm »

Quote from: MBL? on February 23, 2020, 06:56:44 pm

It could happen but I really don’t see anyone dominating for the next few years. We certainly need to make changes quicker and play form players. I think it’s one of the few downsides of our system here with centralised contracts.

We don't really see out and out domination in the Six Nations anyway. We've only seen teams win it back to back in the 20 years it's existed, no hat-tricks.

I'd say Ireland need to take their lumps for a bit and completely rip it up. What's the incentive not to? The team has gone over the top, they were found wanting in Japan and have an aging core that are going one way. May as well work towards a longer term goal than stumble on.