Topic: Harry Maguire considering his options thread

[thejbs]

PL and media want an excited, engaged and hopeful United fan base. Ideally having us and them in some kind of race is their ideal scenario.

[RedForeverTT]

Obviously I would prefer if we had won. A win is a win so credit to United for turning a corner. Again.

[blacksun]

I literally LOL'd when I saw the score because I knew it meant nothing to us but I also knew their lot would be going nuts declaring themselves contenders 

[MonsLibpool]

When is the parade?

[newterp]

When is the parade?

when they are done wiping down and sanitizing their computer screens and keyboards.

lotion can be messy.

[Tonyh8su]

I've never seen anything like the reaction to a friendly win yesterday. They're all out in force in their jerseys around here since 4pm yesterday. It's the funniest thing ever.

Saw a fella on social media say "what a pasting" we took, how we had our full team out and they didn't (quite literally the opposite) and how a "kid" scored against us and "cut your full 11 in half". They're mental.

[MonsLibpool]

when they are done wiping down and sanitizing their computer screens and keyboards.

lotion can be messy.

[afc tukrish]

PL and media want an excited, engaged and hopeful United fan base. Ideally having us and them in some kind of race is their ideal scenario.

Ideally an ideal scenario?

[newterp]

Ideally an ideal scenario?

better than an idle scenario, surely? or an idol scenario, for that matter.


(I do prefer the idli scenario - that's some really tasty stuff)

[Son of Spion]

I've never seen anything like the reaction to a friendly win yesterday. They're all out in force in their jerseys around here since 4pm yesterday. It's the funniest thing ever.

Saw a fella on social media say "what a pasting" we took, how we had our full team out and they didn't (quite literally the opposite) and how a "kid" scored against us and "cut your full 11 in half". They're mental.

It's absolutely bizarre, yet unsurprising given it's them.

I've never seen so much utter drivel spoken after a meaningless pre-season warm-up game. A morning paper I saw had two full pages on the training session with more on the back page. 

And they wonder why they are the most hated club on Earth.

Oh, and that trophy. 

I reckon we threw the training session so we didn't have to bring that monstrosity home with us. 

[Tokyoite]

It's absolutely bizarre, yet unsurprising given it's them.

I've never seen so much utter drivel spoken after a meaningless pre-season warm-up game. A morning paper I saw had two full pages on the training session with more on the back page. 

And they wonder why they are the most hated club on Earth.

Oh, and that trophy. 

I reckon we threw the training session so we didn't have to bring that monstrosity home with us. 

I love it. Just imagine how hilarious it will be when they come to the realisation that they are still fucking shit in a month or two 

[Magz50]

Not even winning the "First friendly of a Preseason cup" could persuade ol Frenkie to join them!


Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
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Frenkie De Jong’s agents Ali Dursun and Hasan Cetinkaya have informed Barcelona that Frenkie has still no intention to leave - also that Frenkie and agents are not accepting any salary reduction, or talks related to that. 🇳🇱 #FCB

Man United are also informed - deal now stalling.

[thejbs]

Not even winning the "First friendly of a Preseason cup" could persuade ol Frenkie to join them!


Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
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20h
Frenkie De Jong’s agents Ali Dursun and Hasan Cetinkaya have informed Barcelona that Frenkie has still no intention to leave - also that Frenkie and agents are not accepting any salary reduction, or talks related to that. 🇳🇱 #FCB

Man United are also informed - deal now stalling.

Do they really need him? They just thrashed the PL and CL runners up.

[slaphead]

It's absolutely bizarre, yet unsurprising given it's them.

I've never seen so much utter drivel spoken after a meaningless pre-season warm-up game. A morning paper I saw had two full pages on the training session with more on the back page. 

And they wonder why they are the most hated club on Earth.

Oh, and that trophy. 

I reckon we threw the training session so we didn't have to bring that monstrosity home with us. 

It's all very amusing,  but I can't work out which of these 3 things it is:

1. There's no football news, so this is the news
2. We're just that big of a club that any little result will get blew up
3. There's a desperation for Man Utd to be good again and they're latching on

There was a full 2 hour discussion on the radio the other night with the topic "should Liverpool fans be worried now"
Anthony Martial is back and Fred is finally showing how good he is, I'm shitting myself now

[DelTrotter]

I've never seen anything like the reaction to a friendly win yesterday. They're all out in force in their jerseys around here since 4pm yesterday. It's the funniest thing ever.

Saw a fella on social media say "what a pasting" we took, how we had our full team out and they didn't (quite literally the opposite) and how a "kid" scored against us and "cut your full 11 in half". They're mental.

It's been amazing, nothing wrong with being optimistic about the future of course but seeing stuff like "this was the squad that was so shit last season and he has the same players beating Liverpool 4-0, imagine when we have signings too" "finally a proper manager after all these years" and all the other nonsense with it is fucking hilarious. You could be forgiven for thinking they've just won the CL. The last time they were this excited over pre season was when they schooled us and Real Madrid then went on to get 2 points from Swansea, Sunderland and Burnley in their first 3 league games.

[dalarr]

They have to get things right at some point? Not saying it will be in the near future but eventually they will hire the right people in the right positions. For now it’s hilarious to see how many corners they have turned. Think they’ll miss out on top four again this season. They are still in too much of a mess. Long may it continue.

[Nitramdorf]

I've just read the phrase "Ten Hag ball in full flow" in a headline and now I feel a bit ill.

[Son of Spion]

It's all very amusing,  but I can't work out which of these 3 things it is:

1. There's no football news, so this is the news
2. We're just that big of a club that any little result will get blew up
3. There's a desperation for Man Utd to be good again and they're latching on

There was a full 2 hour discussion on the radio the other night with the topic "should Liverpool fans be worried now"
Anthony Martial is back and Fred is finally showing how good he is, I'm shitting myself now

It's the age we live in, isn't it? Where the trivialities of life are endlessly pored over. Before the days of 24hr sports coverage and the media creating the news rather than reporting it, that game and result in Thailand would have warranted no more than appearing in the 'Friendly Results' column tucked away at the back of the paper.

These days, such a meaningless training session is used to fuel preferred media narratives. The current ones being Yernartid are on the rise and Liverpool are in decline. Oh, and Nunez is a flop.

I think all three of your points apply, as does a fourth one. That being the media desperation for Liverpool to fail.

[So… Howard Philips]

Watched the game on record, simply to see how the youngsters got on.

A bit embarrassing that United felt they had to play pretty much their first eleven with the likes of McTominay throwing in ‘challenges’ as if United needed the points to avoid relegation.

[RedForeverTT]

Ten Hag’s Dutch league (only) knowledge coming to the fore.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62160307

Manchester United are in advanced discussions with Ajax over defender Lisandro Martinez, and a deal could be concluded as early as Thursday

Anyone can comment about this player?

[JackWard33]

Not even winning the "First friendly of a Preseason cup" could persuade ol Frenkie to join them!

They're going to sign him I'd wager - its just about money. The fee is obv high... the wages will be silly I'd guess
There's just too much desperation from both clubs to get it done
I'd rather it didn't happen, I've seen some negativity around him on here but he's a top class player. He's obviously not going to transform their team but I'd rather they were buying the Tielemanns of this world

[jillcwhomever]

Sam Wallace had just tweeted that Chelsea will not be buying Ronaldo, looks like United are stuck with him. 

[MonsLibpool]

They're going to sign him I'd wager - its just about money. The fee is obv high... the wages will be silly I'd guess
There's just too much desperation from both clubs to get it done
I'd rather it didn't happen, I've seen some negativity around him on here but he's a top class player. He's obviously not going to transform their team but I'd rather they were buying the Tielemanns of this world

If he wanted to go there, they'd have signed him a month ago. They are like that guy that doesn't take no for an answer.

[Dim Glas]

If he wanted to go there, they'd have signed him a month ago. They are like that guy that doesn't take no for an answer.

yet they are still in discussions and pursuing it,  you would think encouragment from his agent, otherwise they’d just shut it down.  The deal can very much go ahead.

Not sure why you think it’s a simple yes or no, then the deal goes through? Seems naive. They love a drag out saga, and even ‘simple’ deals can take months - heck look at our deal with a kid in Calvin Ramsay. And the wages deferal issue with de Jong is probably an issue too.

[Nobby Reserve]

PL and media want an excited, engaged and hopeful United fan base. Ideally having us and them in some kind of race is their ideal scenario.

Is that so they don't tantrum, get matches postponed, and play havoc with the fixture schedule?

[tubby]

yet they are still in discussions and pursuing it,  you would think encouragment from his agent, otherwise they’d just shut it down.  The deal can very much go ahead.

Not sure why you think it’s a simple yes or no, then the deal goes through? Seems naive. They love a drag out saga, and even ‘simple’ deals can take months - heck look at our deal with a kid in Calvin Ramsay. And the wages deferal issue with de Jong is probably an issue too.

Yeah I think he probably signs with Utd if Barca just cough up what they owe him, but there's no way he should be letting them get away with what they're trying to do.

[Nobby Reserve]

Ten Hag’s Dutch league (only) knowledge coming to the fore.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62160307

Manchester United are in advanced discussions with Ajax over defender Lisandro Martinez, and a deal could be concluded as early as Thursday

Anyone can comment about this player?

He's 5'9"

[Flaccido Dongingo]

He's 5'9"

He's going full Hodgson, signing players from his previous club, hopefully he does better than PFK did for us.

[rob1966]

He's going full Hodgson, signing players from his previous club, hopefully he does better than PFK did for us.

 You mean worse surely?

[Flaccido Dongingo]

You mean worse surely?

Is there such a thing as "worse" for PFK?

[Hazell]

Is there such a thing as "worse" for PFK?

Don't say that to his mum.

[Persephone]

So when does De Jong get chloroformed and dragged over to Old Trafford? I actually feel bad for the guy, sold for parts by the Club of his dreams. Barca are an embarrassment.

[Dave McCoy]

So when does De Jong get chloroformed and dragged over to Old Trafford? I actually feel bad for the guy, sold for parts by the Club of his dreams. Barca are an embarrassment.

Soon as he gets his money from Barca which considering how fast they are moving it out the door may be never.

[Tesco tearaway]

He's 5'9"

5'9"
Bad b o
Eyes like peeholes in the snow
Has anybody seen De Jong

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Ten Hag’s Dutch league (only) knowledge coming to the fore.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62160307

Manchester United are in advanced discussions with Ajax over defender Lisandro Martinez, and a deal could be concluded as early as Thursday

Anyone can comment about this player?

He's an e, z and i away from being shaken and not stirred

[farawayred]

Ten Hag is trying to emulate what Cruyff did with Barcelona - implant Ajax players and make them play the Ajax way. It’s not unheard of, but it’s a high-risk stance.

[decosabute]

Ten Hag is trying to emulate what Cruyff did with Barcelona - implant Ajax players and make them play the Ajax way. It’s not unheard of, but it’s a high-risk stance.

Cruyff didn't do that at Barca though - his 'Dream Team' was mostly spaniards/Catalans with Stoichkov, Michael Laudrup and later Romario as the imports. Koeman is the only Dutch player I can think of that he had, and he came from PSV.

My point isn't to be pedantic, but to illustrate that Ten Haag is most definitely not following in the footsteps of one of the greats - he's just signing fellas he knows, which frankly makes him look like a chancer. The dutch league is also a way lower level now than it was back in the 80s/90s.

[Hij]

They have to get things right at some point? Not saying it will be in the near future but eventually they will hire the right people in the right positions. For now it’s hilarious to see how many corners they have turned. Think they’ll miss out on top four again this season. They are still in too much of a mess. Long may it continue.

Perhaps, even then though they could come 2nd with 88 points

It's a bitch.

[Tesco tearaway]

Perhaps, even then though they could come 2nd with 88 points

It's a bitch.

I will plait my own shit if this shower of shite get 88 points/come second 

[Hij]

I will plait my own shit if this shower of shite get 88 points/come second 

I didn't even mean this season! Just in terms of them "getting it right eventually". They could get it right, have a stupendous season in the next 2-3 seasons and still not get close. It's crazy competitive at the moment to win the league.