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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31400 on: March 4, 2022, 07:16:56 am »
David Moyes is doing a great job at West Ham.

One they could look at maybe?

He definitely would shake things up and make them run dem laps
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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31401 on: March 4, 2022, 09:29:20 am »
Watching old episodes of the hilarious Special 1 TV, the confidence and swagger of United around 2008 is jarring. Sir Alex, maybe Jose would take over, but regardless United are a winning machine. They kept spending but ehhh if anyone needed reminding how hard they’ve fallen some on the caf are wondering what Bebe could do in their team today.

To be honest, Bebe is still playing at a pretty decent level, in La Liga ...

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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31402 on: March 4, 2022, 10:01:40 am »
David Moyes is doing a great job at West Ham.

One they could look at maybe?

Moyes isn't a terrible manager, and I reckon he'd have had a similar level of success to what has actually transpired as they've lurched between styles of play. A couple of cups, maybe 2nd once or twice. Who knows what would have happened to a more settled Utd in the Leicester season? A lot of perennial top 4 clubs must still be ruing that they couldn't get a solid attempt together.

Obviously the fanbase would never have accepted such 'mediocrity', but it's hilarious to see them waste so much money and resources, becoming an absolute farce, for no tangible improvement over just letting Moyes get on with the job.
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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31403 on: March 4, 2022, 12:19:25 pm »
Paul Parker, apparently (F365 article doesn't list the source):

“If United, in my opinion, were to get somewhere near to their money back on Harry Maguire, I think they’ll have to think about it”


Yes, because the world's superclubs are just lining up round the block to throw close to 80m on a failed defender approaching 30, who's never won a trophy and been relegated 4 times.
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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31404 on: March 4, 2022, 12:21:32 pm »
Paul Parker, apparently (F365 article doesn't list the source):

“If United, in my opinion, were to get somewhere near to their money back on Harry Maguire, I think they’ll have to think about it”


Yes, because the world's superclubs are just lining up round the block to throw close to 80m on a failed defender approaching 30, who's never won a trophy and been relegated 4 times.

If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31405 on: March 4, 2022, 12:25:59 pm »


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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31406 on: March 4, 2022, 12:28:29 pm »
Paul Parker, apparently (F365 article doesn't list the source):

“If United, in my opinion, were to get somewhere near to their money back on Harry Maguire, I think they’ll have to think about it”


Yes, because the world's superclubs are just lining up round the block to throw close to 80m on a failed defender approaching 30, who's never won a trophy and been relegated 4 times.

Not even roasted, just absolutely eviscerated.

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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31407 on: March 4, 2022, 04:46:54 pm »


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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31409 on: March 4, 2022, 06:17:56 pm »
I can't bring myself to actively root for these.

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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31410 on: March 4, 2022, 06:32:14 pm »
I can't bring myself to actively root for these.

Agreed. Hope they beaten 73-0
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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31411 on: March 4, 2022, 07:14:23 pm »
I can't bring myself to actively root for these.

I can, quite easily too. We beat West Ham tomorrow its level games and 3pts behind. Utd win is still 3pts behind and a game in hand. I don't give a fuck about the Mancs, I want LFC to win the league and I will take any help whatsoever. Everything goes to plan, we could be going to the Etihad top of the table. For one day only the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Re: Ragy hasn't got a Scooby
« Reply #31412 on: March 4, 2022, 07:47:39 pm »
I can't bring myself to actively root for these.

When a result for them doesn’t really help them a great deal other than turning another corner, and benefits us hugely, I won’t too gutted if they somehow pull off a result.

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« Reply #31414 on: March 4, 2022, 10:45:10 pm »

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Manchester United: the Lost Decade. If Amazon Prime wants another blockbuster sports series then start production to document what next season will be 10 years searching in the wilderness for the title.

For added depth, perspective and poignancy feature a narrative strand about how the final league derby with Manchester City (Sunday, 4.30pm) before that landmark campaign was entered found United in role reversal with their crosstown rivals: the record 20-times champions have become the club in freefall while City are the slickly run serial trophy winners.

United were last champions in May 2013. Ralf Rangnick’s tenure as interim manager will not end in a 21st crown – United are 19 points behind City with 11 matches left – so the drought will stretch into a barely comprehensible 10th season.

Since Mr. Ferguson’s vintage triumphed, United’s finishing positions are seventh, fourth, fifth, sixth, second, sixth, third and second. Also damning is how none of the sides assembled by David Moyes, Louis van Gaal, José Mourinho and Ole Gunnar Solskjćr were true contenders. Of the two runners-up finishes, Mourinho’s 2017-18 squad trailed 19 points behind City and last term’s team, under Solskjćr, were 12 behind Pep Guardiola’s third champion team.

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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31415 on: March 4, 2022, 10:59:59 pm »
Manchester United: the Lost Decade.

Forget Amazon Prime, I thought that was a new Man Utd book by Jamie Jackson that the Guardian were promoting.
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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31416 on: March 4, 2022, 11:09:13 pm »

Really? A documentary series because heaven forbid this lot aint won a league title in 10 years

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« Reply #31417 on: March 4, 2022, 11:21:03 pm »
I can't bring myself to actively root for these.

On Sunday? As much as we hate Man Utd, Man City are much, much worse ...

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« Reply #31418 on: March 4, 2022, 11:24:24 pm »
I don't mind rooting for this lot if it benefits us which it would if they manage a win on Sunday. I would prefer a draw to be honest.

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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31419 on: March 4, 2022, 11:30:41 pm »
I want a United win. We don’t know how many points City will need to drop for us to win the title. But as many as possible is surely the only answer. I’ll be pleased with a draw at the weekend. I’ll be doing cartwheels if United win.

As long as we win too obviously.

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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31420 on: March 4, 2022, 11:42:36 pm »
I want a United win. We don’t know how many points City will need to drop for us to win the title. But as many as possible is surely the only answer. I’ll be pleased with a draw at the weekend. I’ll be doing cartwheels if United win.

As long as we win too obviously.
I think your first paragraph holds true even without the second. :)

We want to win, of course, but City MUST drop points for us to catch up. Them losing to United and us winning our game in hand (and tomorrow) will give us the GD advantage even if we "only" draw at their own ground. A draw is far more attainable, especially if they consider the game a must-win.
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« Reply #31421 on: March 4, 2022, 11:43:05 pm »
I don't mind rooting for this lot if it benefits us which it would if they manage a win on Sunday. I would prefer a draw to be honest.
No mate we've attempted that old 'best outcome of a game' scenario. It doesn't work Jack. The argument that we just concentrate on ourselves and win every game was debunked when we achieved 97 points and didn't win the league. We didn't win the league that year because a lot of teams were happy to be shafted by City.
We have to rely on a season of football impacting every game. That includes any circumstance that maximises the potential of us winning a league, it includes us hoping Everton beat City and Man Utd beating City, even fucking Newcastle.

A Man U win deprives City of a vital point, I don't give 2 fucks where Man U finish during this game, I just want regular football to impact our position. And we need it, we haven't done ourselves a lot of favours lashing points away.

We've learnt the hard way from history is that it's not even about points, it can be about goal difference.

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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31422 on: March 4, 2022, 11:47:14 pm »
No mate we've attempted that old 'best outcome of a game' scenario. It doesn't work Jack. The argument that we just concentrate on ourselves and win every game was debunked when we achieved 97 points and didn't win the league. We didn't win the league that year because a lot of teams were happy to be shafted by City.
We have to rely on a season of football impacting every game. That includes any circumstance that maximises the potential of us winning a league, it includes us hoping Everton beat City and Man Utd beating City, even fucking Newcastle.

A Man U win deprives City of a vital point, I don't give 2 fucks where Man U finish during this game, I just want regular football to impact our position. And we need it, we haven't done ourselves a lot of favours lashing points away.

We've learnt the hard way from history is that it's not even about points, it can be about goal difference.
I hope they beat City but they are shite. At least, it'd be funny regardless of the outcome but I'll prefer us laughing at them for helping us.

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« Reply #31423 on: March 4, 2022, 11:53:16 pm »
Really? A documentary series because heaven forbid this lot aint won a league title in 10 years

Mate, I am old enough to recall ITV doing a documentary on them going down.
As a kid I was well pissed off because we never got a documentary for being the first team to win the League and a European trophy. United had been shit since Busby first retired, couldn’t understand the media orgasm when they did. Just thought it was hilarious when Denis Law scored that goal and their gobshite fans thought that by invading the pitch the game would be cancelled.
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« Reply #31424 on: March 5, 2022, 12:05:55 am »
Mate, I am old enough to recall ITV doing a documentary on them going down.
As a kid I was well pissed off because we never got a documentary for being the first team to win the League and a European trophy. United had been shit since Busby first retired, couldn’t understand the media orgasm when they did. Just thought it was hilarious when Denis Law scored that goal and their gobshite fans thought that by invading the pitch the game would be cancelled.
I guess there has always been a media bias towards them even when they are shit.

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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31425 on: March 5, 2022, 01:37:49 am »
Yeah, a win for the mancs will just have those delusional fans firmly on the inside of the corner and leaning in on the turn again. then when they finish 6th and Scooby Doo rehires himself it will be all the better to watch. Cheer my heart out for these little guys. so misunderstood. they want to be good, they really do. Its just so hard all the time.
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« Reply #31426 on: March 5, 2022, 02:58:17 am »
United win with loads of red cards at the weekend please.

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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31427 on: March 5, 2022, 02:59:10 am »
I can't bring myself to actively root for these.
what the actual fuck? Are you nuts, I couldn't care less who City are playing until the end of the season, I hope Utd batter them, all helps the goal difference too

If Utd winning tomorrow means they were to get fourth but we bring home number 20 is absolutely fine with me.

Anyway you don't have to jump up and down if they score, just hope they get something from the game
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Re: Ragy Ralf's a ruddy nice guy
« Reply #31428 on: March 5, 2022, 05:27:01 am »
City keep letting me down, I expecting them to beat Spurs 4-0, in expecting the same this game. The Inventor of modern football versus The Godfather of German football. It’ll be a privilege to watch.
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« Reply #31429 on: March 5, 2022, 05:59:36 am »
United win with loads of red cards at the weekend please.
And a couple of hamstring injuries to key players; nothing serious, but serious enough to take more than a month recovery.
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« Reply #31430 on: March 5, 2022, 06:01:33 am »
what the actual fuck? Are you nuts, I couldn't care less who City are playing until the end of the season, I hope Utd batter them, all helps the goal difference too

If Utd winning tomorrow means they were to get fourth but we bring home number 20 is absolutely fine with me.

Anyway you don't have to jump up and down if they score, just hope they get something from the game
This. Except for one thing - United are not getting 4th even if they win. It's Arsenal's spot to lose.
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« Reply #31433 on: March 5, 2022, 06:48:17 am »
Insane to not want a Utd win here. Also would solidify Ralf's position. Win fucking win.

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« Reply #31434 on: March 5, 2022, 06:49:16 am »
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« Reply #31435 on: March 5, 2022, 06:54:22 am »
Would much rather our traditional rivals Man United beat the team who profess to be our equals.

Hinders Man City and does little to guarantee Man United qualifying for the CL. I still have hopes for Arsenal to take that slot.
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« Reply #31436 on: March 5, 2022, 06:55:09 am »
Watford-Arsenal playing before them. I wonder if an Arsenal win or Arsenal dropping points can help them find some hunger against City?

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« Reply #31437 on: March 5, 2022, 06:59:33 am »
what the actual fuck? Are you nuts, I couldn't care less who City are playing until the end of the season, I hope Utd batter them, all helps the goal difference too

If Utd winning tomorrow means they were to get fourth but we bring home number 20 is absolutely fine with me.

Anyway you don't have to jump up and down if they score, just hope they get something from the game
I prefer a United win of course but I won't be actively cheering for them.

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« Reply #31438 on: March 5, 2022, 07:33:10 am »
I prefer a United win of course but I won't be actively cheering for them.

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« Reply #31439 on: March 5, 2022, 08:04:54 am »
They don't stand a chance.