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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3320 on: May 22, 2020, 04:52:57 PM »
They're suing football manager, the massive bells


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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3321 on: May 22, 2020, 04:57:33 PM »
They're suing football manager, the massive bells

Mental, apparently the game has used their name since 1992 with no complaint now all of a sudden they want a payout. They must be seeing their arse with their recent losses and the likelihood of more losses next quarter.


Miserable bastards, I hope they do a Leeds.

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3322 on: May 22, 2020, 04:57:40 PM »
They're suing football manager, the massive bells


Eeerrrrr what?
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3323 on: May 22, 2020, 05:01:51 PM »
Eeerrrrr what?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-sue-football-manager-22071483

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...The use of Man Utd's name has been present in games produced by the makers since 1992 without complaint, but the club are now taking legal action

Manchester United have launched a law suit against the makers of popular video game Football Manager over use of the club's name.

Sega Publishing and Sports Interactive (SI) collaborate to release a new version of the football management simulator each year.

United have now decided to take legal action against both companies for using their name "extensively throughout the game".

The club are also arguing that their trademark has been infringed on the game due to the use of an unofficial crest to represent them.

Rather than United's official logo, next to their name is a basic red and white striped crest.

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3324 on: May 22, 2020, 05:02:25 PM »
Eeerrrrr what?

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3325 on: May 22, 2020, 05:14:08 PM »
Desperate for cash then? Football Manager should just drop the fucknuggets from the game. (not sure if this is possible as I've never played the game)

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« Reply #3326 on: May 22, 2020, 05:38:23 PM »
Desperate for cash then? Football Manager should just drop the fucknuggets from the game. (not sure if this is possible as I've never played the game)

They'll just change their name to something weird (Juventus have an odd name this year). Hopefully it's petty and vindictive like Manchestoh UnTated

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3327 on: May 22, 2020, 05:49:24 PM »
wouldn't there more or less be a waiver or implied license at this point?

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3328 on: May 22, 2020, 05:54:10 PM »
Desperate for cash then? Football Manager should just drop the fucknuggets from the game. (not sure if this is possible as I've never played the game)
juventus are called zebra fc so call them redshite fc instead, does make me wonder how many of those who use the real names are licensed, lots of iOS management games and the likes of football index and co I doubt all are licenced

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3329 on: May 22, 2020, 05:58:19 PM »
I'm just going to assume they spelt Wijnaldum wrong.

And Aguero is quite the typo of "Fun Bobby"

Aguero definitely deserves to be in the team of the year over pour Bobby - his statistics before the injury were mind boggling - well on track for a 30+ goal season if he'd stayed fit (16 goals and 3 assists in 1400 mins is astonishing), although the injury definitely means that vardy and auba should be counted as well.  Not even KDB was close in terms of mins per goal/assist - Aguero was on 73.8 mins per goal/assist, KDB on 89 mins (the only other players with a production less than 100 are Mahrez @ 92.4, Jesus @ 95.6, vardy @ 96.7 mins, Mane @ 99.3)

Bobby was definitely having his weakest season for us, production wise (8 goals and 7 assists in 2400 mins is pretty average - less than a goal or assist every 161 mins) so I have no issue with any of those three being in there.  Fernandes is definitely a dumb one though, no way he should be in it due to lack of games

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3330 on: May 22, 2020, 07:22:58 PM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-sue-football-manager-22071483

The weird thing is that what it seems like they're suing over isn't the name, but NOT using the official crest, which they would have to pay to use.
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3331 on: May 22, 2020, 07:28:05 PM »
Mental, apparently the game has used their name since 1992 with no complaint now all of a sudden they want a payout. They must be seeing their arse with their recent losses and the likelihood of more losses next quarter.


Miserable bastards, I hope they do a Leeds.

They've been playing the long game, biding their time so they can sue for cumulative damages over 28 years. ;)
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3332 on: May 22, 2020, 07:36:28 PM »
This is just bonkers..
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« Reply #3333 on: May 22, 2020, 08:13:38 PM »
Roger Wyand QC, representing the defendants, opposed the club’s application to amend the claim.

“...Further, the claimant’s staff working in the data analytics and scouting teams have contacted SI on various occasions asking for access to the Football Manager database for scouting and research purposes.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/22/manchester-united-sues-football-manager-makers-over-use-of-name

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3334 on: May 22, 2020, 08:15:13 PM »
They'll just change their name to something weird (Juventus have an odd name this year). Hopefully it's petty and vindictive like Manchestoh UnTated

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Roger Wyand QC, representing the defendants, opposed the club’s application to amend the claim.

“...Further, the claimant’s staff working in the data analytics and scouting teams have contacted SI on various occasions asking for access to the Football Manager database for scouting and research purposes.”

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3335 on: May 22, 2020, 08:16:31 PM »
City Reds would be good.

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« Reply #3336 on: May 22, 2020, 08:19:12 PM »
Manchester Untied

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That's the one! Haha

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3337 on: May 22, 2020, 08:48:49 PM »
Roger Wyand QC, representing the defendants, opposed the club’s application to amend the claim.

“...Further, the claimant’s staff working in the data analytics and scouting teams have contacted SI on various occasions asking for access to the Football Manager database for scouting and research purposes.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/22/manchester-united-sues-football-manager-makers-over-use-of-name

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3338 on: May 23, 2020, 02:39:04 AM »


Net Debt up to £429.1m, an increase of £127.4m over the prior year quarter, due to decrease in cash + adverse movements in the GBP:USD exchange rate. The gross USD debt principal remains unchanged.

This is my main problem with FFP (I understand that this isn't a widely shared opinion on here). I don't understand how a club like United is continuously able to add debt after debt — and in this summer are bragging about being able to use the pandemic situation to their advantage and pick up all their transfer targets they want in spite of this 300 million addition in debt. But yet clubs with owners who have the money (generally newish owners) are unable to pump money into their club in financial terms — and can't inflate sponsorships there. 

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« Reply #3339 on: May 23, 2020, 02:52:29 AM »
This is my main problem with FFP (I understand that this isn't a widely shared opinion on here). I don't understand how a club like United is continuously able to add debt after debt — and in this summer are bragging about being able to use the pandemic situation to their advantage and pick up all their transfer targets they want in spite of this 300 million addition in debt. But yet clubs with owners who have the money (generally newish owners) are unable to pump money into their club in financial terms — and can't inflate sponsorships there.

Because Man Utd earn all their money for the Glazers to siphon off. If you let these other clubs spend what they want it'll be a bloodbath. Newcastle's owner is worth 100bn. He could blow up the transfer market without noticing.

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3340 on: May 23, 2020, 05:43:41 AM »
To be fair to Manchester United fans, they are pretty annoyed by the clubs actions.

If it was Liverpool I'd think it was small time and petty - especially given how long the game has existed. And especially since players can change it anyway
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3341 on: May 23, 2020, 07:39:46 AM »
If it was Liverpool I'd think it was small time and petty - especially given how long the game has existed. And especially since players can change it anyway
People changing the logo to the correct one is part of the reason they're suing. They're arguing that it is bypasssing licensing agreements and costing them money.

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« Reply #3342 on: May 23, 2020, 07:55:54 AM »
Just read on Red Cafe that Van Dijk is crap. He’s having an awful season apparantly.

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3343 on: May 23, 2020, 08:13:43 AM »
Just read on Red Cafe that Van Dijk is crap. He’s having an awful season apparantly.
Yeah but come on they're still trying to convince themselves and the world that Pogba is world class so they clearly don't understand what a good player looks like.

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« Reply #3344 on: May 23, 2020, 08:22:26 AM »
United are actually great now. They’ve grown the last couple of months. According to Red Cafe they might have challenged for the league if hey had Bruno Fernandes the whole season. That’s not bad.

This Liverpool team though? Not that good.

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« Reply #3345 on: May 23, 2020, 09:17:04 AM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-sue-football-manager-22071483

That’s the least of their worries, there’s been some shite pub league side that’s been using their name for the last half a dozen years or so and have been doing some properly embarrassing things.

They ought to be suing them first...

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« Reply #3346 on: May 23, 2020, 09:24:08 AM »
I think the fans’ thoughts on their team is great by the way. Reminds me when I thought players like Skrtel and Enrique could be good enough and we just needed a little bit more to become a title winner. That’s where the United fans are now, and the greatest thing is that they, like me back then, don’t realize it.

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« Reply #3347 on: May 23, 2020, 10:42:00 AM »
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« Reply #3348 on: May 23, 2020, 11:30:43 AM »
Just read on Red Cafe that Van Dijk is crap. He’s having an awful season apparantly.

He's been a right lazy arse these past two months. Good job we had other top defenders to pick up the slack, though, as we've still not conceded in all that time.
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3349 on: May 23, 2020, 11:32:41 AM »
He's been a right lazy arse these past two months. Good job we had other top defenders to pick up the slack, though, as we've still not conceded in all that time.

The worrying thing is we haven't scored either.  :o
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« Reply #3350 on: May 23, 2020, 11:36:53 AM »
This is my main problem with FFP (I understand that this isn't a widely shared opinion on here). I don't understand how a club like United is continuously able to add debt after debt — and in this summer are bragging about being able to use the pandemic situation to their advantage and pick up all their transfer targets they want in spite of this 300 million addition in debt. But yet clubs with owners who have the money (generally newish owners) are unable to pump money into their club in financial terms — and can't inflate sponsorships there.

It's about a sustainable business model. United have debt yes, but it's structured in a manner that allows them to function.  An owner simply pumping money into a club isnt sustainable as the money isnt theirs - it's their owner's.

FFP recognises that clubs are businesses, and like any other business they cant be going to the magic money tree.
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« Reply #3351 on: May 23, 2020, 11:38:26 AM »
The worrying thing is we haven't scored either.  :o

Yep. Proper dry spell for us.  :-[
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3352 on: May 23, 2020, 01:28:09 PM »
Just read on Red Cafe that Van Dijk is crap. He’s having an awful season apparantly.

It's weird the standards some players have to meet to not be "crap". He was so good in 18/19 that when Virgil misplaces one pass, or fails to win one header, people jump on it like a pride of lions.

The attention that was thrown on Nicolas Pepe dribbling past Virgil earlier in the season is indicative of how much people are desperate for Virgil to have a dip in form. Unfortunately for them, Virgil is still world class and streets ahead of their best centre back.

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3353 on: May 23, 2020, 01:33:36 PM »
It's weird the standards some players have to meet to not be "crap". He was so good in 18/19 that when Virgil misplaces one pass, or fails to win one header, people jump on it like a pride of lions.

The attention that was thrown on Nicolas Pepe dribbling past Virgil earlier in the season is indicative of how much people are desperate for Virgil to have a dip in form. Unfortunately for them, Virgil is still world class and streets ahead of their best centre back.

I remember the 90s and 2000 when all their players were crap. The parallels to now when our players are crap are remarkable.

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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3354 on: May 23, 2020, 01:33:57 PM »
It's weird the standards some players have to meet to not be "crap". He was so good in 18/19 that when Virgil misplaces one pass, or fails to win one header, people jump on it like a pride of lions.

The attention that was thrown on Nicolas Pepe dribbling past Virgil earlier in the season is indicative of how much people are desperate for Virgil to have a dip in form. Unfortunately for them, Virgil is still world class and streets ahead of their best centre back.

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« Reply #3355 on: May 23, 2020, 02:01:54 PM »
It's about a sustainable business model. United have debt yes, but it's structured in a manner that allows them to function.  An owner simply pumping money into a club isnt sustainable as the money isnt theirs - it's their owner's.

FFP recognises that clubs are businesses, and like any other business they cant be going to the magic money tree.

Indeed and even ignoring the dire situation where an owner disastrously overstretched themselves, you only have to look at the wage levels and inflated sponsorships of City to see that they wouldn't be left in a sustainable position if their current owners got bored and decided to sell up.

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« Reply #3356 on: May 23, 2020, 02:10:33 PM »
They're suing football manager, the massive bells
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3357 on: May 23, 2020, 02:18:47 PM »
Just read on Red Cafe that Van Dijk is crap. He’s having an awful season apparently.
Firmino most overrated player in the league apparently and Salah a fraud. It's a miracle we have managed all these wins with such shite players  ;D
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3358 on: May 23, 2020, 02:19:49 PM »
Firminho most overrated player in the league apparently and Salah a fraud. It's a miracle we have managed all these wins with such shite players  ;D

and if you point out to them that being as all our players are frauds, then Jürgen Klopp must be an even greater manager than we all know he is. And they'll find a way to make out he's rubbish too  ;D
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Re: United - The Green and GOle Standard!
« Reply #3359 on: May 23, 2020, 02:22:07 PM »
Use an anagram to get around it.  My choice would be "The dire, mean c*nts"

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