Topic: Harry Maguire considering his options thread

[4pool]

Ralphs first presser.. 30 minutes long. I watched it just to see who the hell he was and what were his ideas. I knew very little about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQFoOs0Io-E&t=535s

[SamLad]

Ralphs first presser.. 30 minutes long. I watched it just to see who the hell he was and what were his ideas. I knew very little about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQFoOs0Io-E&t=535s

what impression did you come away with?

[vivabobbygraham]

I get the feeling we're going to get a lot of laughs out of this set up until the end of the season 

I guarantee it, mate

[rob1966]

Regardless of your wife's dubious allegiances, you have clearly failed as a parent if you let him get away scot free with singing that last one. 

[vivabobbygraham]

To be fair, maybe a 30 seconds talk is a big deep conversation for a German

More likely for Carrick...

[4pool]

what impression did you come away with?

He's well spoken. Knows his stuff.

There were other bits where the media tried to pin him down more but he batted those questions away.

When asked about Haaland, he said they have more than enough striking talent.

Also was vague about what his 2 year consultancy will entail.  Basically because the club hasn't really decided.

Said he spoke to Carrick for an hour. Spoke to Ole' for nearly 2.

[vivabobbygraham]

Not something I’ve ever been accused of

For me, he comes across as a more arrogant version of Bielsa except without the weird idiosyncrasies (sweet shop bedsit, bucket squat and conjoined interpreter).

Oh, he likes the good life Ralfy boy. None of that upturned bucket shite. He' ll want the heated seats and living in the penthouse at the Lowry like Jose did

[SamLad]

He's well spoken. Knows his stuff.

There were other bits where the media tried to pin him down more but he batted those questions away.

When asked about Haaland, he said they have more than enough striking talent.

Also was vague about what his 2 year consultancy will entail.  Basically because the club hasn't really decided.

sounds like standard new-manager stuff. can't expect too much insight at this point I guess.  thanks.

Said he spoke to Carrick for an hour. Spoke to Ole' for nearly 2.

I imagine he followed that with "I now know less about football than at any other point in my life".

[rossipersempre]

Ralphs first presser.. 30 minutes long. I watched it just to see who the hell he was and what were his ideas. I knew very little about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQFoOs0Io-E&t=535s

Wonder how many of us, when he talked about “when a club like Manchester United offers you such a role, you cannot turn it down” went ‘haha, your man Kloppo did!!!”

[rossipersempre]

Ah he’s putting me to sleep is Ralf. Likes to talk but not picking up much in the way of charisma.

“Minimise the coincidence factor” is bullshit corporate speak of the highest order. I hope he realises that also applies to dodgy penalties and dubious VAR decisions

[Bobinhood]

"I may recommend they keep me on for another year, as ive done before, but its too early to tell"


hahaha  They've hired a control freak kleptomaniac. this is gonna be great!!

[SamLad]

"I may recommend they keep me on for another year, as ive done before, but its too early to tell"

Mourinho must be his script writer. 

[Andy82lfc]

Ah he’s putting me to sleep is Ralf. Likes to talk but not picking up much in the way of charisma.

“Minimise the coincidence factor” is bullshit corporate speak of the highest order. I hope he realises that also applies to dodgy penalties and dubious VAR decisions

You could tell how butt hurt the Manc media were that he has the charisma of a librarian. They were desperate to pull some sounds bites out but it was like listening to a finance officer talk about the anual accounts.

[SamLad]

Minimise the coincidence factor

I don't even know what that is supposed to mean .... ?

[Ghost Town]

You could tell how butt hurt the Manc media were that he has the charisma of a librarian. They were desperate to pull some sounds bites out but it was like listening to a finance officer talk about the anual accounts.

Depending on this word that could appeal to two very different niche interest groups. Or to Effes.

[beardsleyismessimk1]

He is the German version of Brendan Rodgers

[Dim Glas]

He is the German version of Brendan Rodgers

Mad shout that being as Rangnick is known for buying / signing / finding really good players 

[beardsleyismessimk1]

Mad shout that being as Rangnick is known for buying / signing / finding really good players 

Yeah BR had his hands tied up by the committee

[Red_Mist]

Minimise the coincidence factor

I don't even know what that is supposed to mean .... ?

There’s a factor called coincidence, and he’s hoping to minimise it.

[rossipersempre]

Compared to “we need to turn doubters to believers”, it doesn’t quite trip off the tongue or inspire confidence does it?

[4pool]

The Normal One

and

The Other One.

[Red_Mist]

Compared to “we need to turn doubters to believers”, it doesn’t quite trip off the tongue or inspire confidence does it?

No not really, but at least there will be no coincidences. Or if there are, they will kept to a bare minimum.

[darragh85]

they really think that they can just start "gegenpressing" and beating all round them over night?  who is going to do the pressing then? which players are fit enough and have the necessary attitude and work rate? where is the coordination going to come from. They have the worst squad of players for such a system.  im genuinely baffled by what they are at.


i think unless Rangnick takes a different approach they arent going to improve very much in the short term and the fact he is only an interim manager makes his appointment more odd.

[BarryCrocker]

Compared to “we need to turn doubters to believers”, it doesn’t quite trip off the tongue or inspire confidence does it?

Sounds betters using Google translate.

"necesse est ut credentibus vertere"

[RedSince86]

The Boring One™

[MonsLibpool]

Ralf who?

[Dim Glas]

Yeah BR had his hands tied up by the committee

The problem was he didn’t, they let him sign his players too.

[Skeeve]

You could tell how butt hurt the Manc media were that he has the charisma of a librarian. They were desperate to pull some sounds bites out but it was like listening to a finance officer talk about the anual accounts.

Probably a smart move on his part, he knows full well that the media will be friendly to him unless he throws them something they cannot resist, so far better to take the easy coverage for now.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Wait, did he actually say that in his role as a consultant, he'd recommend to the board that they keep him as manager?

Top trolling

[smutchin]

Minimise the coincidence factor

I don't even know what that is supposed to mean .... ?

I reckon he's saying they've been getting by on luck for a while. He wants them to start being able to win games without having to rely on dodgy penalties.

Just imagine - if they'd still been getting penalties at the rate they were getting them last season, they'd be top of the league and Solskjaer would still be in a job. Instead, they're right where they belong - mid-table. However good a coach Rangnick might be, it's going to take a while to turn them into a decent playing outfit and racking up points without assistance from crap officiating.

[elsewhere]

He turned out to be Alan Pardew minus the dance moves

[Billy The Kid]

Ralf who?

Exactly. Never heard of him until 2 weeks ago

Genuinely haven't

[PaulF]

He can't be worse than Moyes van gaal mourinihoole surely?

[the_red_pill]

They have appointed a manager who used to be decent, but now he's washed up. He reminds me of Rafa. Poor man's Rafa in fact.

He's won one Bundes back in 2001 mate. As I said the other day- that's so far gone, Ged's Reds were still flying high!
That's about all that's noteworthy about his record. (and perhaps the Intertoto)

I'm not saying he's not capable or necessarily demeaning his achievements, but surely this raises questions about his ambitions should he stay beyond the season. A guy with such talent would've wanted to "rise to the top" and quickly! "Feck the world, I'm coming up the hill!"
I mean... it looks to me as if he's more interested in coaching youth teams and development? That doesn't sound like a man that interested in ruling the world, which makes me question his ambition and perhaps, his personality. What is he going to do with a "warchest" of a few hundred million if he decides to stay? Would he be effective with it?

Besides, 6 months is way too short a time to coach this lot of misfits. Then he leaves. That wouldn't be enough time for the methods to be commited to muscle memory- not a chance! The next guy takes over... what then?

[Dim Glas]

He’s never won Bundesliga.

But people dismissing him as being ‘washed up’ and the German Roy Hodgson is a bit odd. Not really any better than those going overboard claming him to be some football guru.

Not all great coaches win stuff, after all, there isn’t that many trophies around to win, or that many teams good enough to win them.  Like I’ve said before though, the guy is a bit of an odd one to put it mildly. He’s flaky. He’s only coached for 2 years out of the past decade, he doesn’t want to coach, but he’s very good at it.

Lucky for him, with all this pressure now on him to prove himself from the get go being as the hype around him has been unreal, he actually has a very nice run of games coming up.

[the_red_pill]

He’s never won Bundesliga.

...

That doesn't inspire confidence though mate. I'm not saying he's not capable, but it seems to me that he's been brought in only to "develop" this lot- to get them to 4th.... and that takes time and the benefits will not be immediately visible. The performance curve may even be slow on the uptake.
Even if he does stay... this record doesn't speak to me as someone who has the ambition to want to manage a club like United?

Rangnick I'm sure is a great coach- even Klopp said it the other day, but United just makes the damndest decisions? I really can't see the sense in this appointment.

Das is nicht die richtige box!

[Crosby Nick]

They’ve probably times the change well in terms of having a long, piss easy run of games coming up. For a functioning side anyway.

[vblfc]

Ralf reminds me of Ned Flanders. 

[Fromola]

He’s never won Bundesliga.

But people dismissing him as being ‘washed up’ and the German Roy Hodgson is a bit odd. Not really any better than those going overboard claming him to be some football guru.

Not all great coaches win stuff, after all, there isn’t that many trophies around to win, or that many teams good enough to win them.  Like I’ve said before though, the guy is a bit of an odd one to put it mildly. He’s flaky. He’s only coached for 2 years out of the past decade, he doesn’t want to coach, but he’s very good at it.

Lucky for him, with all this pressure now on him to prove himself from the get go being as the hype around him has been unreal, he actually has a very nice run of games coming up.

I'm hoping he's more Van Gaal for them. An influential manager but somewhat past it.

I think he's more Bielsa than anything (also in terms of being flaky). He's a template manager who has his way of playing but has never actually won anything. Never had top jobs either but why not? Hopefully the job is too big for him, although it's good timing for him as he'll be made to look great for a while by the fact Ole couldn't set a team up. He's still hampered by his personnel though and having to accommodate Ronaldo.

[Fromola]

Yeah BR had his hands tied up by the committee

Gutted he was overruled on Ryan Bertrand and Ashley Williams. Would have looked great next to Borini and Joe Allen.