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Re: United - το πράσινο και το gOle πρότυπο
« Reply #10760 on: December 3, 2020, 04:18:33 AM »
Their inconsistency is really fun to see. And they're trying to talk themselves into thinking they're in the title race because IF they win their game in hand, they'll only be 2 points behind us
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Re: United - το πράσινο και το gOle πρότυπο
« Reply #10761 on: December 3, 2020, 06:53:42 AM »
Is there anyone, anywhere who wasn't 100% convinced Fred would be hooked at half time to save the inevitable red card ?  Awful awful management not to see that. By awful I mean brilliant. Oh and Maguire getting left of his massive arse for the 3rd goal was hilarious.

That Fred sequence... Jesus, even without fans refs lose their minds in Old Trafford.

First minute he goes in wild after a bad touch and ends up with his two studs showing and luckily skidding through Veratti's legs. No booking cos it's too early.

Then he absolutely cleans out Mbappe who's racing past him, ref didn't even call a free kick.

Then he headbutts Paredes and the ref, for the first time in contemporary football history, decides it wasn't a good enough headbutt to merit a red card, so gives him a yellow. (Ignore whether Paredes was acting the dick or playacting or anything - this is exactly what Pepe and countless others have been sent off for).

Then — still in the first half — he mistimes another tackle, doesn't win the ball, stamps on Paredes' foot and goes down pretending he's injured... and Paredes gets booked.

Then finally, he goes in wild after another bad touch, does get a flick on the ball, without taking it away from the attacker and completely cleans out the PSG player, and the Savage and the BT lads are all "Well, that's a very harsh second yellow!"

Even Peter Walton, literal ref agent whose job it is to defend whatever decision they come up with, had to be like "Well, he had made himself apparent to the referee with his performance so far."

Honestly the lad had six yellow cards worth of performance out there.

That ref was appalling last night in a way that mixed old schools appalling with new-school VAR assisted appalling.
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« Reply #10762 on: December 3, 2020, 06:59:54 AM »
BT making me laugh. United well beaten and they are digging out the positives like a dung beetle.

It's great isn't it  :lmao

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« Reply #10763 on: December 3, 2020, 08:14:09 AM »
Their inconsistency is really fun to see. And they're trying to talk themselves into thinking they're in the title race because IF they win their game in hand, they'll only be 2 points behind us

The only threat from United to any of the top 4 is VAR. It's stole them at least 6 points (Brighton/West Brom) from games they should have otherwise lost and the luck they get is ludicrous. Bearing in mind VAR has stole 4 points off us.

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« Reply #10765 on: December 3, 2020, 08:23:03 AM »
How hard is it for harry bighead maguire to say " we didn't play well and create chances so we got what we deserved, we will prepare well and win the next match" etc ffs.

Ref was clearly favoring them in their decisions and this greek statue claims Fred was sent off wrongly and PSG got scrappy goals ffs?

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« Reply #10766 on: December 3, 2020, 08:23:53 AM »
It's nice to see them currently in agony , but i think they will go through. Not because they are quality or because of Ole's mastermind tactics, but probably they will get lucky somehow.
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Re: United - το πράσινο και το gOle πρότυπο
« Reply #10767 on: December 3, 2020, 08:52:26 AM »
That's always the problem with neutral refs.
Yeah I agree European refs are usually better, they've still managed to get 3 pens from 5 games though. That dive by "Tony" in the first game in Paris is starting to look crucial.

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« Reply #10768 on: December 3, 2020, 10:24:36 AM »
McTominay is genuinely one of the worst footballers iv'e seen in my entire life on the ball at champions league level. His job seems to be to run around the pitch kicking people and moaning at the ref and that's it. Never scores, assists or creates fuck all. Long may they continue to play him.

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« Reply #10769 on: December 3, 2020, 10:49:35 AM »
The funniest thing about the whole not taking Fred off thing was that well, its Fred. It's not as if he's indispensable to them or he's some kind of world beater key to them having any chance against PSG, its Fred. That Oleh was so reliant of him is class. Love to hear what Pogba had to say about it. Not only being benched for someone completely shite, but when that shite person has about 6 yellow card offences and still gets to stay on ahead of him.

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« Reply #10770 on: December 3, 2020, 10:52:27 AM »
Stream of consciousness = hot garbage :o
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« Reply #10771 on: December 3, 2020, 10:54:04 AM »


Are you speaking from experience or did you just need to get that off your chest?! ;D
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« Reply #10772 on: December 3, 2020, 10:56:29 AM »
Are you speaking from experience or did you just need to get that off your chest?! ;D

I feel much better now....I go by Bernie these days ;D

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« Reply #10773 on: December 3, 2020, 11:24:07 AM »
McTominay is genuinely one of the worst footballers iv'e seen in my entire life on the ball at champions league level. His job seems to be to run around the pitch kicking people and moaning at the ref and that's it. Never scores, assists or creates fuck all. Long may they continue to play him.

There's always a United midfield player to fulfill that function. Darren Fletcher, Park, Butt, Ince, Fellaini.
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« Reply #10774 on: December 3, 2020, 11:49:16 AM »
West Ham away, Leipzig away, Man City home - next three matches. They could lose all three and that would spell the end of Ole.

Hope they lose the first two matches and end up winning against City. That will be a perfect scenario for us from all perspectives.
I'd be amazed if we finish top 4.
We won't make any big signings this season and we will go back to being a top4 club.

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« Reply #10775 on: December 3, 2020, 12:06:37 PM »
West Ham away, Leipzig away, Man City home - next three matches. They could lose all three and that would spell the end of Ole.

Hope they lose the first two matches and end up winning against City. That will be a perfect scenario for us from all perspectives.

They'll probably lose the first two, leaving Ole on the brink, and then they'll beat City by sitting deep and hitting with speed on the counter....the only system Ole knows how to implement.

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« Reply #10776 on: December 3, 2020, 12:13:43 PM »
West Ham away, Leipzig away, Man City home - next three matches. They could lose all three and that would spell the end of Ole.

Hope they lose the first two matches and end up winning against City. That will be a perfect scenario for us from all perspectives.
Come on Utd!
They've got a decent record v City lately I think?
Moyes will be going all out to beat them of course, unless he gets a summons from SAF.

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« Reply #10777 on: December 3, 2020, 12:14:42 PM »
United fans are baffling, reading that Maguire thread at Redcafe and they are all in unison that he was great last night. :o

How standards have dropped since Bruce to Vidic days under Fergie.

He's a classic backs to the wall CB, heading things away defending his 18 yard line, no pace, crap reading of the game, rash and turns like a tugboat, it's funny that they bought him and Wan Bassaka and play a highline and paid a combined Ł 140 million.
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« Reply #10778 on: December 3, 2020, 12:19:31 PM »
I feel much better now....I go by Bernie these days ;D

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« Reply #10779 on: December 3, 2020, 12:39:50 PM »
Ronay’s report in the Guardian is on point...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/dec/03/solskjaer-neymar-manchester-united-psg-champions-league

Particularly liked “the Harry Maguire-shaped carved mahogany armoire at the heart of United’s defence”.
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« Reply #10780 on: December 3, 2020, 12:57:34 PM »
Ronay’s report in the Guardian is on point...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/dec/03/solskjaer-neymar-manchester-united-psg-champions-league

Particularly liked “the Harry Maguire-shaped carved mahogany armoire at the heart of United’s defence”.
Really good take on the red too.
It really annoys me when players and managers try and claim a particular foul was not a yellow, whist ignoring all the other fouls the ref let go.

Wasn't it Mane that Klopp subbed at half time in one game in the CL because he was being targeted and was already on a yellow?

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« Reply #10781 on: December 3, 2020, 12:59:04 PM »
Stream of consciousness= hot garbage :o
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« Reply #10782 on: December 3, 2020, 01:32:09 PM »
The funniest thing about the whole not taking Fred off thing was that well, its Fred. It's not as if he's indispensable to them or he's some kind of world beater key to them having any chance against PSG, its Fred. That Oleh was so reliant of him is class. Love to hear what Pogba had to say about it. Not only being benched for someone completely shite, but when that shite person has about 6 yellow card offences and still gets to stay on ahead of him.

that’s what made it such an incredibly stupid decision on Solskjaer’s behalf. They had Matic, Pogba and that Dutch player who barely gets a start sat on the bench, and 5 subs in Europe. Just no reason to not make the sub.

Also funny, is how Man Utd fans have over the past year convinced themselves that Fred is actually really good, it just took him time to settle  ::)

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« Reply #10783 on: December 3, 2020, 03:31:23 PM »
Also funny, is how Man Utd fans have over the past year convinced themselves that Fred is actually really good, it just took him time to settle  ::)

Haha I've heard that a lot. Most of my mates are Utd fans, you have 2 or 3 who are rational about their players, well maybe 1 or 2, no infact 1, maybe
Anyway, a lot of have been coming out with that bullox about how much Solskjaer has improved him and how well he's been doing lately, its bizarre really. The same people are the ones who think Henderson is useless and Firmino does absolutely nothing

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« Reply #10784 on: December 3, 2020, 03:37:22 PM »
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« Reply #10785 on: December 3, 2020, 04:28:26 PM »
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« Reply #10786 on: December 4, 2020, 10:37:19 AM »
Great to hear Woody is backing Ole in the summer.

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« Reply #10787 on: December 4, 2020, 10:48:06 AM »
Great to hear Woody is backing Ole in the summer.
Those rumours of him being a Red must be so true.

Amazing not only to give the job to this joker but constantly back him as well.

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« Reply #10788 on: December 4, 2020, 11:21:48 AM »
West Ham away, Leipzig away, Man City home - next three matches. They could lose all three and that would spell the end of Ole.

Hope they lose the first two matches and end up winning against City. That will be a perfect scenario for us from all perspectives.


Think it'll be  WDL in that order.
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« Reply #10789 on: December 4, 2020, 11:29:28 AM »
Their inconsistency is really fun to see. And they're trying to talk themselves into thinking they're in the title race because IF they win their game in hand, they'll only be 2 points behind us


It's natural.

They had 21 solid seasons where they were involved in the title race until the end, or near the end, winning 13 of them. 

Majority of their fans have it inbuilt into their psyche.


So to have that completely removed these last 7 years is alien to them.  They still strut about and talk all cocky when they get half a sniff at it because it's what they're programmed to do.  But they don't seem to realise that the scenery has changed and it's built on sand now without Ferguson around. "Flakey" as Neville used to call our challenges in 1997, 2002, 2009 etc
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« Reply #10791 on: December 4, 2020, 04:27:41 PM »
Ole hasn't got the best strike rate with transfers beside Fernandes.  Cavani has made a good impact but Rashford, Martial and Greenwood were all there before. The likes of Wan Bissaka and Maguire seem a colossal waste of money. He's reluctant to use Van De Beek at all but still early days at least. Dan James hasn't done much.

Woodward himself has a terrible strike rate.  You need your big transfers to come off.
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« Reply #10792 on: December 4, 2020, 04:50:25 PM »
I read that as "Forget reinforcements in January. And forget trophies in the foreseeable future." :)

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« Reply #10793 on: December 4, 2020, 05:46:18 PM »
The funniest thing about the whole not taking Fred off thing was that well, its Fred. It's not as if he's indispensable to them or he's some kind of world beater key to them having any chance against PSG, its Fred. That Oleh was so reliant of him is class. Love to hear what Pogba had to say about it. Not only being benched for someone completely shite, but when that shite person has about 6 yellow card offences and still gets to stay on ahead of him.
I can imagine Ole puffing his chest out, kicking over water bottles and such down the tunnel in order to pretend that he's a grown up and got his big boy pants on. But as soon as he slams that dressing room door, the kids start running amok, and Ole pleads for them to calm down as he stands there with marker in hand in front of his whiteboard. He's a school teacher that doesn't want to upset the applecart. The apples being his mates whom he picks religiously every week and is afraid to drop. He doesn't want to offend anyone, and let's be honest, he's incapable of doing that seeing that he looks and talks like a soft shite.

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« Reply #10794 on: December 4, 2020, 06:04:34 PM »

Refreshing to see a CEO taking the long term view of things and not worrying about the odd short term disaster.

I'm backing Woody all the way. Ole is the past, present and future of Man Utd. Stick to that 5 year plan
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« Reply #10795 on: December 4, 2020, 06:58:57 PM »
Sounds like he's finished then.
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« Reply #10796 on: December 4, 2020, 07:26:04 PM »
What happened to Cavani getting a ban?
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« Reply #10798 on: December 5, 2020, 02:48:16 AM »


They've learned from their mistakes. If they gave more time to Moyes, probably they would've been champions by now.
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« Reply #10799 on: December 5, 2020, 05:05:17 AM »
They've learned from their mistakes. If they gave more time to Moyes, probably they would've been champions by now.
not just champions, they were going for their 6th title under him.