Topic: Neco Williams Appreciation thread

[WhoHe]

Brilliant for Neco. Good habit to get into grabbing the odd goal here and there.

Yeah especially at the death, great habit to have.

[Eeyore]

Brilliant for Neco. Good habit to get into grabbing the odd goal here and there.

Reminiscent of the fella in your avatar, ghosting in at the far post to bury a header. Made up for Neco after the stick he took after the Arsenal game.

[farawayred]

Yeah especially at the death, great habit to have.

Good team to do that against too. Bulgaria allowed Ireland to equalize there in the 93rd min the previous game, now lost to Wales at the same time. Fine margins as Klopp always says, and great for Neco to experience that.

[Oldmanmick]

Long time lurker on here, but thought my first post would be to praise this young lad. Hard to believe he's only 19 years old. I look at our squad now & I think defensively we're as strong now as we've ever been, certainly in the 50 odd years I've been following the reds. If Nico continues with his improvements & keeps his feet on the ground - Jurgen will see to that - we could have ourselves a future gem.

[RedForeverTT]

He so good going forward & at getting into goalscoring positions.

At youth level he was some finisher for a RB

United fans believe it was Giggs that developed Neco. Deluded people.

[William Regal]

Really pleased for Williams today, had a couple of tricky moments recently but big potential and plenty of time to keep developing his game

[Reeves]

Nice header. Downwards = textbook. Good lad

[4pool]

His goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WKMfj7u97E

[AndyMuller]

Great header.

[Mighty_Red]

Made up for him, what an impact! Hope he can do that for us soon!

Not at all worried about the mistakes he made last week, it's all part of a learning curve.

[him_15]

Great goal!

[So… Howard Philips]

Reminiscent of the fella in your avatar, ghosting in at the far post to bury a header. Made up for Neco after the stick he took after the Arsenal game.

When I checked duvva's avatar I expected to see our first attacking right back, Chris Lawler.

I flicked through the reports earlier and all I could see on Sky was that James had assisted a goal but no mention of Neco.

As you say good for him after the learning process of the Arsenal goal.

[duvva 💅]

I thought he did ok tonight, but clearly has areas to work on. But in the post match thread was labelled poor by some, which seems overly harsh. It sounds like he’s blacked out his social media due to getting serious abuse after tonight’s performance on there. He’s 19 and is just taking his first steps into the best team on the planet, plus we actually won 7-2. I just don’t get why some people can’t be more balanced.

[UNO]

He seems to be a bit too slow to be a great full back. The right back position has been the weak point of our defense during the game.

[Redcap]

He seems to be a bit too slow to be a great full back. The right back position has been the weak point of our defense during the game.

I don't think he's slower than TAA for example.

I think what he needs to improve right now is his decision making. Over the last few times I've seen him, he seems to be a high risk, high reward type player. There was a moment when he tried to keep the ball under pressure from 3-4 players. He almost made it out, and had he been successful it would have looked great, but ultimately he lost the ball in a dangerous position.

That's fine for a 19 year old who's still learning the game in a League Cup tie when we're 5-0 up, but we'd be pretty annoyed if he did it against Arsenal next week and it cost us a goal.

It's not easy because clearly we want him to play confidently and be on the front foot playing his natural game. But he will have to shape up his decision making fairly quickly this season, if Trent is out for any sort of an extended run.

[UNO]

I am not sure if Klopp will play him in a league match after his performances in his last 3 outings. Gomez or Milner I guess, let’s see. Hope this situation will not happen though.

[jillcwhomever]

Some of our fans on social media are an embarrassment to be honest. 

[Silverbird]

I don't think he's slower than TAA for example.

I think what he needs to improve right now is his decision making. Over the last few times I've seen him, he seems to be a high risk, high reward type player. There was a moment when he tried to keep the ball under pressure from 3-4 players. He almost made it out, and had he been successful it would have looked great, but ultimately he lost the ball in a dangerous position.

That's fine for a 19 year old who's still learning the game in a League Cup tie when we're 5-0 up, but we'd be pretty annoyed if he did it against Arsenal next week and it cost us a goal.

It's not easy because clearly we want him to play confidently and be on the front foot playing his natural game. But he will have to shape up his decision making fairly quickly this season, if Trent is out for any sort of an extended run.

Absolutely agree with this. He's only 19, so the physical attributes may change slightly, but he needs to improve his decision making both defending and attacking to stay in Klopp's plans. The goal we conceded yesterday is an example of him making a poor decision while in our half (aside from being caught on the wrong side of the attacker a few times), but I have noticed that going forward, his decisions have been poor too. He has a tendency to take on the opposing fullback, but he doesn't quite have the pace to beat them often, and he's given away the ball on some occasions in that way.

Of course, he's still only 19 so his decision-making can and should improve, but yeah, it's unlikely Klopp will play him in the league unless he improves in this regard quickly.

[smutchin]

I think what he needs to improve right now is his decision making. Over the last few times I've seen him, he seems to be a high risk, high reward type player. There was a moment when he tried to keep the ball under pressure from 3-4 players. He almost made it out, and had he been successful it would have looked great, but ultimately he lost the ball in a dangerous position.

A few of those occasions it might not have been so bad if he’d had Gomez behind him rather than another rookie.

Rhys left Neco exposed a few times - but that’s perfectly understandable lack of experience. Communication across *all* the back line was noticeably worse in the second half.

I remember Trent getting stick for his defensive lapses when he was starting out. I have no worries about Neco as a long term prospect.

And the idiots on twitter can just fuck right off. Bunch of cowardly shits.

[Rhi]

A few of those occasions it might not have been so bad if he’d had Gomez behind him rather than another rookie.

Rhys left Neco exposed a few times - but that’s perfectly understandable lack of experience. Communication across *all* the back line was noticeably worse in the second half.

I remember Trent getting stick for his defensive lapses when he was starting out. I have no worries about Neco as a long term prospect.

And the idiots on twitter can just fuck right off. Bunch of cowardly shits.

This.

[T.Mills]

I thought he did ok tonight, but clearly has areas to work on. But in the post match thread was labelled poor by some, which seems overly harsh. It sounds like he’s blacked out his social media due to getting serious abuse after tonight’s performance on there. He’s 19 and is just taking his first steps into the best team on the planet, plus we actually won 7-2. I just don’t get why some people can’t be more balanced.

Wheres the fun in being balanced when you can be a complete bellend instead!

[JC the Messiah]

He seems to be a bit too slow to be a great full back. The right back position has been the weak point of our defense during the game.

I don't think it's a question of his actual top-end pace, I think it's more of an issue with his stamina.

Over the period of a game, I've noticed his performance seems to drop off, and it could be a fitness/stamina thing. Good thing is that he's young and it's something that can be addressed with hard work and training. He undoubtedly is a talented player and could be part of the team for a long time.

That's based on my observations, so could be mistaken.

[Caston]

Some of our fans on social media are an embarrassment to be honest. 

Yep - Twitter has become extremely toxic lately with all the kids on there.

[IanZG]

I don't think it's a question of his actual top-end pace, I think it's more of an issue with his stamina.

Over the period of a game, I've noticed his performance seems to drop off, and it could be a fitness/stamina thing. Good thing is that he's young and it's something that can be addressed with hard work and training. He undoubtedly is a talented player and could be part of the team for a long time.

That's based on my observations, so could be mistaken.

The stamina concern is fair. Think it was the Brighton game last season, he looked absolutely knackered at half time, hopefully that's something that improves with age.

[Simplexity]

Some of our fans on social media are an embarrassment to be honest. 

The price of success, the better the team is, the worse the fans are.

[Ghost Town]

Yep - Twitter has become extremely toxic lately with all the kids on there.

Think you'd be hard-pressed to land this just at the feet of kids. Twats come in all shapes, sizes and ages

[iamnant]

I am not sure if Klopp will play him in a league match after his performances in his last 3 outings. Gomez or Milner I guess, let’s see. Hope this situation will not happen though.

Nonsense. Gomez has been really poor (for his usual high standards) since football re-started and Klopp has never once hesitated to start him, so if Jurgen believes in Neco's abilities he'll no doubt trust him in the line up if Trent needs a rest.

[Fitzy.]

This absurd approach to fandom where perfection is the only acceptable level of performance is really toxic. We've had far worse second XIs and far worse youth players come through which has never resulted in the kind of whoppery we're witnessing at the moment. Nothing's just 'fun' anymore. It's all deadly serious. So winning 7-2 against a lower league side has top be pulled apart, with any negative accentuated to unreasonable levels and lads on the internet crying about it.

[redgriffin73]

I know it's their own decision ultimately but I really think these young lads should be advised to not have public social media accounts that can just leave them open to such disgusting abuse. I know they get media training and he seems to have a good support network around him but fucking hell, it must be soul destroying having to put up with some of the shite they do. Absolute disgrace some of our 'fans' (and I know it's not just a Liverpool problem).

[JackWard33]

What’s happened to him online is disgraceful and shameful

Imagine thinking a giving shit to a 19 year old kid you don’t know in any context is what you should be doing let alone one you’re supposed to “SUPPORT”

Genuinely it makes me really sad - we used to think of ourselves as having the best fans in the world .. maybe that’s still true in the ground but the mass of LFC fans are no different to everyone else

[MD1990]

His athleticism will improve. It is something he will work on with the S&C. If he can improve his pace he will be a very very good player. He was not great in his last few appearances but not as bad as some have made out. Although I do think we wont see him starting in the PL atm.

These young players or players in general should not read twitter. Just use it to post some photos or thank proper fans but dont bother reading comments, Just full of people hiding behind fake names hating on everything.

[ScottishKopite]

What’s happened to him online is disgraceful and shameful

Imagine thinking a giving shit to a 19 year old kid you don’t know in any context is what you should be doing let alone one you’re supposed to “SUPPORT”

Genuinely it makes me really sad - we used to think of ourselves as having the best fans in the world .. maybe that’s still true in the ground but the mass of LFC fans are no different to everyone else

The so called fans who are abusing Neco on the internet have probably never stepped foot in Anfield and only took an interest in Liverpool 3/4 years ago .

Its Embarrassing growing men think abusing a 19yo kid is acceptable its what Everton and Chelsea fans are good at . Go away and support them you fucking muppets!

[Chig]

Think we should tag him on twitter and show him some love.

[Grobbelrevell]

I know it's their own decision ultimately but I really think these young lads should be advised to not have public social media accounts that can just leave them open to such disgusting abuse. I know they get media training and he seems to have a good support network around him but fucking hell, it must be soul destroying having to put up with some of the shite they do. Absolute disgrace some of our 'fans' (and I know it's not just a Liverpool problem).

Whilst I agree with this, it's beyond depressing that it's a legitimate argument. Social media has the potential to be absolutely brilliant in allowing supporters to see the human side to their clubs footballers, and to allow direct interaction that would otherwise not be possible - and even more so at times like the one we're currently living through, but fuck me do the worst elements of that sphere not destroy it for everyone. I personally love seeing players like Milner and others on social media and getting a feel for who they are as a person through that means, but what we'll end up with instead is a load of PR ran accounts that give you nothing, or no accounts at all.

[Andy2508]

Think we should tag him on twitter and show him some love.

Definitely. Some absolutely awful people on Twitter, he’s a young lad who I thought actually did ok. Even if he was to have a stinker, there’s never any need to be having a pop on social media.

[Zoomers]

Head up high lad, fuck everyone else.

[clinical]

Little twitter virgins giving him abuse.

[sminp]

Not sure why he’s being criticised anywhere, he had a decent game. Tough for him as well playing next to a centre back with zero experience at this level.

[number 168]

The so called fans who are abusing Neco on the internet have probably never stepped foot in Anfield and only took an interest in Liverpool 3/4 years ago .

Its Embarrassing growing men think abusing a 19yo kid is acceptable its what Everton and Chelsea fans are good at . Go away and support them you fucking muppets!

Too right. If they have any affiliation with the club it's a shirt and Sky sports with a liberal dose of Talkshite. Best to just ignore them.

[Carra-ton]

Posted in the other thread, will post here -

Neco Williams vs Lincoln City

85% Pass accuracy (50/59)
7/11 Accurate long passes
5/6 Accurate passes into final third
1 Chance created
2/3 Dribbles completed
11/24 Duels won
6 Interceptions
9 Recoveries, 3 in opposition half

People stating he had a bad game are just not very clear about what the issue is.
VVD left and our organization fell, Rhys Williams who was looking good, looked average. Fabinho can't play LCB, plus he isn't a backline organizer.

Abusing Neco who is a great talent for that is just not on.