Author Topic: Takumi Minamino (Read 435348 times)

it's funny cos the one thing that Jürgen Klopp really picked up on with Taki after the game was how effectively and how hard he fought The lad is a scrapper, he may not be big, but we have a few players who aren't that big, but they are players who fight for every inch.

aw1991 · « **Reply #890 on:** January 26, 2020, 04:38:08 pm »

Quote from: Bobbyf9kungfu on January 26, 2020, 11:17:09 am

Haha we yeah of course I will but I’m just giving my opinion of him in the wolves game.

Mate, it's painfully obvious.

He's playing at a new club, in a league much more difficult than the Austrian BuLi. This without a pre-season that will get him more familiar with the tactical system and his develop partnerships with his teammates. I don't think he's going to be very influential until the end of the season because of this.

Still, he wasn't levels below everyone else on the pitch. It was a difficult game that didn't complement any of our players that wasn't Alisson.

I'm fine with criticizing players, but criticizing Minamino really adds nothing to the table at this point.

Rush 82 · « **Reply #891 on:** January 26, 2020, 04:56:13 pm »

It's a wum - ignore it

fredfrop · « **Reply #892 on:** January 26, 2020, 04:58:56 pm »

It needs muting or something more severe.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #893 on:** January 26, 2020, 05:48:54 pm »

Just ignore him.

J-Mc- · « **Reply #894 on:** January 26, 2020, 06:59:07 pm »

Thought he did well tonight.

Always looking up, wanting to drive forward and always seemed to find that little pocket of space.

Only a few games in but you can see how much joy he’ll get when he’s up to speed with the rest of the squad.

tubby · « **Reply #895 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:03:50 pm »

More hustle from him today, thought he had a decent game. Can't help being shunted around to different positions every time he plays, but his time will come.

M7 Heckler · « **Reply #896 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:08:09 pm »

thought he was very poor, personally. showed a real lack of awareness on the pitch and not much fight in him either. its actually playing with 10 men with him in the side, but early days.

JamesG L4 · « **Reply #897 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:14:27 pm »

Quote from: M7 Heckler on January 26, 2020, 07:08:09 pm

thought he was very poor, personally. showed a real lack of awareness on the pitch and not much fight in him either. its actually playing with 10 men with him in the side, but early days.

Remember reading exactly the same posts about Fabinho after Arsenal away last season.

Hold fire. Take a breath. He has to start somewhere.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #898 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:22:08 pm »

Everton H in a team of none regulars. Away at Wolves in our toughest game of the season. Away on a poor pitch with a team of none regulars...yeah I don't think I'll judge him yet...

Red Ol · « **Reply #899 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:22:34 pm »

Quote from: JamesG L4 on January 26, 2020, 07:14:27 pm

Remember reading exactly the same posts about Fabinho after Arsenal away last season.

Hold fire. Take a breath. He has to start somewhere.

Hear hear

Modern football fans are way too quick to critique. Lad’s done nothing wrong so far. He’s finding his feet and it might take a bit longer but that’s ok.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #900 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:32:41 pm »

Quote from: M7 Heckler on January 26, 2020, 07:08:09 pm

thought he was very poor, personally. showed a real lack of awareness on the pitch and not much fight in him either. its actually playing with 10 men with him in the side, but early days.

Nonsense. Was one of the few who can hold his head up after that game.

Midfield was absent, very little (especially in the second half) coming up the wings. He was so isolated, but certainly showed fight and grit - which is where your post falls down the most.

Looking forward to seeing him in a side that is mostly all the first-choice XI, and isn't playing a tough side like wolves where we saw regulars like Gini struggle.

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its actually playing with 10 men with him in the side,

That's just ridiculous.

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #901 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:36:29 pm »

I think he put in a shift just needs a goal to get him going .

newterp · « **Reply #902 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:38:30 pm »

Wait - you guys are taking someone called M7 Heckler seriously? Seems like he was registered to provide shit posts.

MrGrumpy · « **Reply #903 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:45:31 pm »

He will be a good player, but he needs time to settle.

M7 Heckler · « **Reply #904 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:47:06 pm »

I agree he was isolated but also he needs to do something about it - there was a flash of what i'd describe as presence before he came off when he really competed for a ball that wasnt his, which he didnt really show for 60 minutes prior. a bit timid i think. maybe harsh with the 10 men comment, he plugs gaps but doesn't really impact the oppositions play in defence (yet).

For me, Bobby came on, showed the presence, and made all the runs that minamino didn't, and it made a big impact on the team performance. minamino looked overwhelmed in comparison. To be clear I'm not writing him off, just that i see a big gap between the level he has shown in his first couple of games and the level he needs to display to play for liverpool. Must be really hard not speaking the language, without knowing any of your colleagues, and being expected to do your job; I certainly wouldnt be able to do it in my line of work so its not a criticism of him as a person, but an observation of his games so far.

M7 Heckler · « **Reply #905 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:48:42 pm »

Quote from: newterp on January 26, 2020, 07:38:30 pm

Wait - you guys are taking someone called M7 Heckler seriously? Seems like he was registered to provide shit posts.

unlike you, the saviour of RAWK. bet you've got your post count on your CV lol

Mutton Geoff · « **Reply #906 on:** January 26, 2020, 07:50:21 pm »

Quote from: M7 Heckler on January 26, 2020, 07:47:06 pm

I agree he was isolated but also he needs to do something about it - there was a flash of what i'd describe as presence before he came off when he really competed for a ball that wasnt his, which he didnt really show for 60 minutes prior. a bit timid i think. maybe harsh with the 10 men comment, he plugs gaps but doesn't really impact the oppositions play in defence (yet).

For me, Bobby came on, showed the presence, and made all the runs that minamino didn't, and it made a big impact on the team performance. minamino looked overwhelmed in comparison. To be clear I'm not writing him off, just that i see a big gap between the level he has shown in his first couple of games and the level he needs to display to play for liverpool. Must be really hard not speaking the language, without knowing any of your colleagues, and being expected to do your job; I certainly wouldnt be able to do it in my line of work so its not a criticism of him as a person, but an observation of his games so far.

Quote from: M7 Heckler on January 26, 2020, 07:48:42 pm

unlike you, the saviour of RAWK. bet you've got your post count on your CV lol

God loves a trier !

Iska · « **Reply #907 on:** January 26, 2020, 08:01:20 pm »

He’s been alright. Other than the *really* big guns, all our recent signings are in and out in various permutations for six months to let them get used to it. No reason why Taksi should be any different.

Jookie · « **Reply #908 on:** January 26, 2020, 08:50:46 pm »

Way too early to judge Minamino. Like many of our new signings the 1st few games he's struggled to get to grips with the pace and tactical aspects of how we play.

This next 4 months or so will be about him bedding in and getting accustomed to the tactical and physical demands of the Klopp system and English football.

For Minamino it might be that a lot of this acclimatisation period happens on the training ground. If we start to have close to a full 1st team squad available after the February break, then getting on the bench will be a challenge for some players. I think we may be looking at 2 sub spots between Minamino, Shaqiri and Origi on most occasions.

Time to start to judge Minamino will be next season after these next 4 months and a full pre-season under his belt.

newterp · « **Reply #909 on:** January 26, 2020, 08:51:46 pm »

Quote from: M7 Heckler on January 26, 2020, 07:48:42 pm

unlike you, the saviour of RAWK. bet you've got your post count on your CV lol

Why wouldn’t I have it on my CV? All the important and influential members of society do.

Alternatively I could make my initial post be complete garbage like you did and then have to back track immediately when called out and try to explain myself instead of just being proactive to the discussion from the get go.

thaddeus · « **Reply #910 on:** January 26, 2020, 09:26:18 pm »

Hopefully he won't suffer for his versatility. It feels a lot to ask anyone to play like Mane one week and like Firmino the next, and to do so without us unfairly comparing him unfavourably to arguably our best two players. He predominantly played as the right of a front three for Salzburg so I'm guessing he may also be understudy to Salah.

I think he's done fine without particularly shining in both games and positions in the past week.

M7 Heckler · « **Reply #911 on:** January 26, 2020, 09:50:43 pm »

Quote from: newterp on January 26, 2020, 08:51:46 pm

Why wouldn’t I have it on my CV? All the important and influential members of society do.

Alternatively I could make my initial post be complete garbage like you did and then have to back track immediately when called out and try to explain myself instead of just being proactive to the discussion from the get go.

point taken, my first post was lazy. to say i back tracked at any point is a stretch, i merely qualified my initial comments, which i stand by.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #912 on:** January 26, 2020, 10:15:25 pm »

Needs time, looked a tad lost.

andy07 · « **Reply #913 on:** January 26, 2020, 10:42:49 pm »

Quote from: CHOPPER on January 26, 2020, 10:15:25 pm

Needs time, looked a tad lost.

Fish out of water. Ideal opportunity today to assert himself.

Too early for flapjacks? · « **Reply #914 on:** January 26, 2020, 10:43:03 pm »

Plenty of graft but struggling to link up with his teammates. Will need a bit of time to build an understanding.

newterp · « **Reply #915 on:** January 26, 2020, 11:04:50 pm »

Quote from: Too early for flapjacks? on January 26, 2020, 10:43:03 pm

Plenty of graft but struggling to link up with his teammates. Will need a bit of time to build an understanding.

Quote from: CHOPPER on January 26, 2020, 10:15:25 pm

Needs time, looked a tad lost.

And to be fair some of the players he’s trying to link up with were Elliot, Pedro, Jones, Neco/Larouci. It’s not that fair to him to judge him on it. Regardless he’s already shown sheer class in the CL and we can be confident he will become a top player here.

Samie · « **Reply #916 on:** January 26, 2020, 11:07:21 pm »

We bought the fucker for just over 7 million, if it doesn't work out we sell him for double the amount. No worries.

Sinyoro · « **Reply #917 on:** January 26, 2020, 11:16:40 pm »

Quote from: Too early for flapjacks? on January 26, 2020, 10:43:03 pm

Plenty of graft but struggling to link up with his teammates. Will need a bit of time to build an understanding.

What teammates, 16 year old Elliot and Origi?

stockdam · « **Reply #918 on:** January 26, 2020, 11:32:35 pm »

I haven't really seen his "style" yet.....what does he do best. At Napoli he was bursting into the box and playing nice linkups with the other players. As yet he hasn't been able to do that. That's not a criticism; just an observation.

farawayred · « **Reply #919 on:** January 26, 2020, 11:33:21 pm »

He played part of two games with two entirely different teams switching over several positions. He's done well, put some miles in those legs, felt the intensity of the game and is still settling. What do people expect from him in that time, be a world-beater?