Author Topic: Wrestling Thread (AEW, NJPW, WWE, etc) (*) (Read 577255 times)

tubby · « **on:** June 7, 2019, 11:46:30 am »

The previous wrestling thread was deleted because the mods were getting too many report notices so let's keep it civil and not work ourselves into a shoot, brothers.

24/7 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 7, 2019, 11:54:25 am »

Starred thread. Keep it civil or we'll lock, delete and ban. It's a footie site and youse fans of muscle-bound actors in spandex getting yer knickers in a twist set our teeth on edge.

Oh and tubby, you're welcome mate

tubby · « **Reply #2 on:** June 7, 2019, 11:59:17 am »

Ta. Here's a belt in your honour.

24/7 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 7, 2019, 12:08:37 pm »

Haha you fuckin loon

Of course, the downside is that every time I hit "New replies" I'm gonna see a bleedin wrestling thread in the list

my usenme changed? · « **Reply #4 on:** June 7, 2019, 12:56:22 pm »

Is anyone watching Supershow today? II understand the ethics and morality around it so I guess it wont be a huge number. I probably would have tuned in tbf but I cancelled my subscription to the network a fortnight ago thinking I'll still have access to this but my access ended yesterday!

Elzar · « **Reply #5 on:** June 7, 2019, 12:59:11 pm »

Quote from: my usenme changed? on June 7, 2019, 12:56:22 pm

Is anyone watching Supershow today? II understand the ethics and morality around it so I guess it wont be a huge number. I probably would have tuned in tbf but I cancelled my subscription to the network a fortnight ago thinking I'll still have access to this but my access ended yesterday!

a WWE ppv on when I'm home in an evening and not doing anything... yet I won't be watching. That's how much I have lost my interest at the moment. Don't even know who's fighting or why (but then, I'm not sure anyone has reasons for their matches at the minute)

my usenme changed? · « **Reply #6 on:** June 7, 2019, 01:07:34 pm »

The entire card is completely forgettable - I just want to see Taker/Goldberg.

tubby · « **Reply #7 on:** June 7, 2019, 01:14:41 pm »

Will do my usual WWE PPV routine of not watching it and then reading up on it after to see if anything nutty happened. I only ever really watch Takeovers now, the rest of the product is going downhill so quickly.

wampa1 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 7, 2019, 02:21:36 pm »

Quote from: tubby on June 7, 2019, 01:14:41 pm

Will do my usual WWE PPV routine of not watching it and then reading up on it after to see if anything nutty happened. I only ever really watch Takeovers now, the rest of the product is going downhill so quickly.

I haven't watched anything since Baron Corbin was announced to facing Angle in his retirement match. Cancelled my Network, didn't even watch Mania. It's just podcast catch-ups for me now (it doesn't sound like I'm missing anything).

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #9 on:** June 7, 2019, 03:14:12 pm »

Quote from: tubby on June 7, 2019, 11:46:30 am

The previous wrestling thread was deleted because the mods were getting too many report notices so let's keep it civil and not work ourselves into a shoot, brothers.

Should I ask?

As for the rest, have to concur about WWE. I've enjoyed NXT a lot more in the last year or two but is there anyone still worth watching in there? Waiting to see if AEW is any good - I'm much more in favour of the Cody/Jericho 'serious' booking side than the Young Bucks gimmicky stuff.

tubby · « **Reply #10 on:** June 7, 2019, 03:19:37 pm »

I'm not too bothered about the gimmicky stuff, providing it's away from the big matches and confined to stuff like the battle royales. I'd never seen Orange Cassidy before but did pop for his brief cameo at DoN.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/DcQxmGq1LYA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/DcQxmGq1LYA</a>

AndyMuller · « **Reply #11 on:** June 7, 2019, 03:42:53 pm »

Wait, who was scrapping in the last thread? Let me take a wild guess does his username begin with C and end with S?

24/7 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 7, 2019, 04:06:07 pm »

Quote from: AndyMuller on June 7, 2019, 03:42:53 pm

Wait, who was scrapping in the last thread? Let me take a wild guess does his username begin with C and end with S?

This is the sort of thing that grinds our gears. Does it fucking matter? Really? Stay on topic or, well, yer know...

AndyMuller · « **Reply #13 on:** June 7, 2019, 04:08:16 pm »

Quote from: 24/7 on June 7, 2019, 04:06:07 pm

This is the sort of thing that grinds our gears. Does it fucking matter? Really? Stay on topic or, well, yer know...

It's a joke. I don't go in this thread usually anyway so yer know...

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #14 on:** June 7, 2019, 05:24:17 pm »

Haha I remember the whining about how that old thread was in Media and Arts and not General Sports

Man, I'm getting old

Anyway, zero interest in Triple H vs Orton for the millionth time. Taker vs Goldberg should be interesting in a grim sort of way at least. That's probably the only one I'll watch. The 50-man rumble... I'll read up and see if there were any interesting surprises and then watch it

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #15 on:** June 7, 2019, 05:48:57 pm »

Turki Al-Sheikh who is the head of Saudi Entertainment ministry and the guy who is behind their deal with WWE, wants Hogan to win the 50 man Battle Royal tonight.

Something Worse · « **Reply #16 on:** June 7, 2019, 07:09:27 pm »

DON did 98k buys (slight asterisk as it's Meltzer reporting the number) which is an incredible number. To my knowledge, that's better than any show TNA ever did (they did 60k for Angle/Joe I) and is about half a WWE PPV from the dying days before the network started. Bearing in mind PPV is basically dead as a concept apart from big UFC/Boxing fights, that's a fantastic achievement and almost double what All In did (55k, also a very good number).

From the random bumfuck websites I was reading, it sounds like they want to do "fewer" PPVs, whether that be 12,8 or 6. Almost doubling your buys with a gap between events is certainly a strong argument for less is more.

Few caveats of course: one-off numbers aren't a strong indicator of success of course, and 2/3 came from the US (which puts it right in line with that TNA event) but it's a great start.

my usenme changed? · « **Reply #17 on:** June 7, 2019, 09:05:54 pm »

Quote from: Claus on June 7, 2019, 07:09:27 pm

DON did 98k buys (slight asterisk as it's Meltzer reporting the number) which is an incredible number. To my knowledge, that's better than any show TNA ever did (they did 60k for Angle/Joe I) and is about half a WWE PPV from the dying days before the network started. Bearing in mind PPV is basically dead as a concept apart from big UFC/Boxing fights, that's a fantastic achievement and almost double what All In did (55k, also a very good number).

From the random bumfuck websites I was reading, it sounds like they want to do "fewer" PPVs, whether that be 12,8 or 6. Almost doubling your buys with a gap between events is certainly a strong argument for less is more.

Few caveats of course: one-off numbers aren't a strong indicator of success of course, and 2/3 came from the US (which puts it right in line with that TNA event) but it's a great start.

Good idea tbf. Once WWE went to 12 ppvs a year it did start the dilution of the product.

Something Worse · « **Reply #18 on:** June 7, 2019, 09:37:14 pm »

Quote from: my usenme changed? on June 7, 2019, 09:05:54 pm

Good idea tbf. Once WWE went to 12 ppvs a year it did start the dilution of the product.

IMO 12 was perfect, it was 14+ that it got shit (2006ish?).

Now with the brand split and the Network I think they should do 16+ and have split shows, get the midcard acts regular PPV time. But they haven't.

tubby · « **Reply #19 on:** June 7, 2019, 10:58:28 pm »

Jesus fuck I just saw some clips of the jackhammer and tombstone from the Taker vs Goldberg 5* classic. Hope the pay-off was worth it, chaps.

damomad · « **Reply #20 on:** June 7, 2019, 11:19:32 pm »

It actually started out quite well. The blood added to the match. Undertaker dropped Goldberg on his head with the first tombstone and then it went off the rails fast. Worst closing stretch to a match I can remember.

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #21 on:** June 7, 2019, 11:32:06 pm »

I was gutted the thread got deleted, glad to welcome you all back. The WM30 comments for Brock breaking the streak are legendary and now gone forever

Did every Post get deleted or are they hidden? I'm sure my average was about 2.5 a day and now its down to 1, shows where my attention lied

paulrazor · « **Reply #22 on:** June 8, 2019, 12:56:55 am »

Taker Goldberg finish was sloppy and awful. It's putlre botchamania

Botched the jackhammer, the reverse tombstone and a sloppy chokeslam

Clip I saw clipped the bad tombstone. Dear me

Pack it in guys your too old

PatriotScouser · « **Reply #23 on:** June 8, 2019, 01:03:09 am »

No one else can draw which is why the likes of Undertaker, Goldberg and last year HBK were brought back for these specific shows.

If they had wrestlers who can draw then the need for these guys wouldn't be there.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 8, 2019, 07:03:39 am »

We all know Goldberg is off now as this was probably his last match but surely Taker needs to pack it in now too. He's been doing this for almost 30 years now, and the last Wrestlemania was the first one he missed in about 18 years. Bet the Saudis will call him back again next year though.

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #25 on:** June 8, 2019, 09:18:52 am »

Spotted an LFC shirt front row

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #26 on:** June 9, 2019, 10:30:35 am »

So far at the Dominion show, Moxley, Shingo Takagi, and the returning KENTA (Hideo Itami in WWE) have all turned up and announced themselves for the G1 Climax 2019. Hopefully Ospreay is next.

tubby · « **Reply #27 on:** June 9, 2019, 02:52:33 pm »

RIP Ibushi's neck.

Tonyh8su · « **Reply #28 on:** June 9, 2019, 11:48:36 pm »

Quote from: tubby on June 9, 2019, 02:52:33 pm

RIP Ibushi's neck.

One of the worst bumps I've ever seen and I only saw a GIF of it earlier on on Twitter. Is he OK today? His neck is surely broken, no?

Something Worse · « **Reply #29 on:** June 10, 2019, 12:44:21 am »

Quote from: a little break on June 9, 2019, 11:48:36 pm

One of the worst bumps I've ever seen and I only saw a GIF of it earlier on on Twitter. Is he OK today? His neck is surely broken, no?

He finished the match and took another one (RVD DDT bump) so either his neck was fine or it's so fucked it doesn't matter.

tubby · « **Reply #30 on:** June 10, 2019, 01:12:15 am »

Quote from: Claus on June 10, 2019, 12:44:21 am

He finished the match and took another one (RVD DDT bump) so either his neck was fine or it's so fucked it doesn't matter.

Ha considering the amount of times he's landed on his neck it's definitely the latter.

Red Viper · « **Reply #31 on:** June 10, 2019, 08:05:13 am »

Holy shit, only just seen the clips from the Taker/Goldberg match. How neither one got seriously injured I'm not sure.

Please, just call it a day now.

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #32 on:** June 10, 2019, 08:59:54 am »

I cannot believe Taker's still wrestling in 2019. Just take that well-earned retirement. Not like he needs the money

Davidbowie · « **Reply #33 on:** June 10, 2019, 12:42:03 pm »

Surely Mark Calloway must be worth a good few million dollars - he doesn't need the money and plus, he can spend the next 20 years going to comic-cons and signings and make thousands off autographs and photo ops whilst being put up in the best hotels and putting absolutely no strain on his body.

It just goes to show how desperate WWE are that they have to wheel these 50 plus year olds out again and again. There was a time when they mocked WCW for pushing Hogan and Savage who were in their forties at the time.

tubby · « **Reply #34 on:** June 10, 2019, 01:11:52 pm »

I think their hands are tied somewhat with the Saudis requesting certain wrestlers from yesteryear. Wonder what the pay-offs have been for the old guys to lace up and wrestle again, Michaels came out of retirement for a one-off match for what I assume was insane money last year.

Having said that, they can always say no. Don't think anyone is going to force Taker to wrestle over there.

Davidbowie · « **Reply #35 on:** June 10, 2019, 01:46:43 pm »

Quote from: tubby on June 10, 2019, 01:11:52 pm

I think their hands are tied somewhat with the Saudis requesting certain wrestlers from yesteryear. Wonder what the pay-offs have been for the old guys to lace up and wrestle again, Michaels came out of retirement for a one-off match for what I assume was insane money last year.

Having said that, they can always say no. Don't think anyone is going to force Taker to wrestle over there.

From what I've heard, Undertaker was paid 2 million dollars for that match against Goldberg.

bobadicious · « **Reply #36 on:** June 11, 2019, 04:01:07 pm »

Quote from: Davidbowie on June 10, 2019, 01:46:43 pm

From what I've heard, Undertaker was paid 2 million dollars for that match against Goldberg.

Wow, thats obscene. Not bad for 15mins work.

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #37 on:** June 11, 2019, 05:07:02 pm »

Quote from: bobadicious on June 11, 2019, 04:01:07 pm

Wow, thats obscene. Not bad for 15mins work.

It could have almost caused him his life.

Alf · « **Reply #38 on:** June 11, 2019, 06:19:16 pm »

Quote from: bobadicious on June 11, 2019, 04:01:07 pm

Wow, thats obscene. Not bad for 15mins work.

It was about 10 after the entrances and introductions, terrible choke slam that finished the match. Like one he'd deliver to the Big Show or somebody really heavy.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #39 on:** June 11, 2019, 07:27:57 pm »

Undertaker would probably do this well into his 60's if it meant he got paid 2-3 million for a match every year. Sad state of affairs for a man who said he would stop doing this once he no longer has it.