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I would hate for us to have the same kind of arrogance and self entitlement that the likes of City and Barcelona exhibit. Maybe it's a cultural difference, but if Henderson gave a speech at the start of the season about bringing the title or CL home I think I'd cringe.

Save the speeches till the end of the season.
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I would hate for us to have the same kind of arrogance and self entitlement that the likes of City and Barcelona exhibit. Maybe it's a cultural difference, but if Henderson gave a speech at the start of the season about bringing the title or CL home I think I'd cringe.

Save the speeches till the end of the season.

Just watched that video. Arrogance and entitlement are exactly the words to sum them up.

They put the defeat at Anfield solely down to them, their mental attitude, their errors, their inability to score. They expected to win, but they didn't expect to come up a team like Liverpool, who even without Firmino and Salah, were more than a match for them.

I'm sure Klopp and Henderson never talk to the team about going in and expecting to win a game like Messi and their coach did - turn up, don't their it away and we'll be too good.

We lost a final to Real, and look how we bounced back. Look where we are now at the top of the world. Such a contrast between the two clubs.
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Yeah. They're relatively late comers to the title of European Royalty, but the title was well earned. What annoys me is their attitude that only they are deserving of it.

We humbled them but they still lack respect. They say the words but you can tell they don't believe it, just spouting platitudes. They tell themselves we won because they played badly, not because we played well. The idea they could be upstaged and that another team could want it more than them is too much to handle.
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I would hate for us to have the same kind of arrogance and self entitlement that the likes of City and Barcelona exhibit. Maybe it's a cultural difference, but if Henderson gave a speech at the start of the season about bringing the title or CL home I think I'd cringe.

Save the speeches till the end of the season.

That arrogance extends to almost everything they do - for example the open tapping up of players they want by their own current players is ridiculous.

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I would hate for us to have the same kind of arrogance and self entitlement that the likes of City and Barcelona exhibit. Maybe it's a cultural difference, but if Henderson gave a speech at the start of the season about bringing the title or CL home I think I'd cringe.

Save the speeches till the end of the season.

Agree but if you’ve won what they have in the last decade it’s probably tricky to stop a fair amount of arrogance creeping into the group
Or he could read Babu's Twitter threads, which is where I get my opinions from

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Agree but if you’ve won what they have in the last decade it’s probably tricky to stop a fair amount of arrogance creeping into the group

I guess LFC came from a more humble era.
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I guess LFC came from a more humble era.

Agree but if you’ve won what they have in the last decade it’s probably tricky to stop a fair amount of arrogance creeping into the group
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lifted form an interview with George Sephton on the Guardian web-site;

When asked for his favourite moment... “At the end of the Barcelona game this year,” Sephton says. “Once in a blue moon I’ll put You’ll Never Walk Alone on after the game. When I put it on, the whole squad lined up in front of the Kop and sang it together. Then after the players started to drift down the tunnel, nobody moved and I had run out of songs on my playlist but I searched through my CDs, banged on Imagine by John Lennon and, when the whole Kop took it up, I have never heard anything like it.”
There was a two-minute interlude where Liverpool’s three-man attack squared up against United’s three-man defence and basically stalked them back into their own penalty area, like battle-hardened mountain wolves closing in on a flock of geriatric sheep.

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lifted form an interview with George Sephton on the Guardian web-site;

When asked for his favourite moment... “At the end of the Barcelona game this year,” Sephton says. “Once in a blue moon I’ll put You’ll Never Walk Alone on after the game. When I put it on, the whole squad lined up in front of the Kop and sang it together. Then after the players started to drift down the tunnel, nobody moved and I had run out of songs on my playlist but I searched through my CDs, banged on Imagine by John Lennon and, when the whole Kop took it up, I have never heard anything like it.”

Yeah, that was a great moment, I have goosebumps thinking about it again.
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lifted form an interview with George Sephton on the Guardian web-site;

When asked for his favourite moment... “At the end of the Barcelona game this year,” Sephton says. “Once in a blue moon I’ll put You’ll Never Walk Alone on after the game. When I put it on, the whole squad lined up in front of the Kop and sang it together. Then after the players started to drift down the tunnel, nobody moved and I had run out of songs on my playlist but I searched through my CDs, banged on Imagine by John Lennon and, when the whole Kop took it up, I have never heard anything like it.”

Any videos of this? Would love to see it.
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MATCHDAY: Inside FC Barcelona, Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bgk2-Vlx6Fb3sM4V-oDC2rnyoaOtnHF9/view

The first 30mins of this episode is heaven for any LFC supporter, enjoy. ;D

That was insanely good.



Yeah.. you watch that programme by barca...

Almost the last thing that is said as they leave the dressing room is by Messi.  He tells them to remember Roma and not make the same mistake again.

The message of a colossal fuck up probably isn’t the thing you need to hear just before going out and having to avoid another colossal fuck up....

Genuinely couldn't get my head round that. That was one screwed up dressing room.


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for me he's just saying there's no room for complacency and as such i have no problem with that in isolation

however, taking the dressing room comments overall from various players (including the copa del ray cup segments), the emphasise seems to be on what can go wrong if x,y, z etc rather than on what 'we' do (im not talking about the coach here, just the players general slant), now that i dont like

cracking documentary tho, i think that must be the most candid 'inside anfield' type docu i've seen and John Malkovich on pipes  ;D now there's production value
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Losing your only chance of silverware this season to your city rival. At home. With the most expensive squad ever assembled.

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There was a time I loved watching Barca and how they operated seemed to be great.
Ronaldinho, then Messi...thumping United at Wembley.

Superb watching too when I got a chance to see La liga games on the telly

This version of barca is different to that.
I'm so happy thinking about that 4-0 game at Anfield....was just amazing. I am so glad WE did that to them, after that 1st leg too

I'm gonna watch that back soon
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That video is a mix of hilariously over the top, surreal and utterly brilliant.

I agree with the comments that it can't have been good for the mentality of the Barca players, chewing over their demons and the fear of going out again in similar fashion in addition to all the other press stuff they would have done. And as someone observed, Messi, bringing it up again before they go out. His speech before the Copa del Rey final was pretty insipid too. Clearly geeing his team up is not quite as good an attribute for him as his actual footballing skills.

The Shakira bits were quite poignant, and her younger son was quite sweet, trying to comfort her after our first. Felt a bit sorry for them.

Overall loved the photography and general production of it, if, as I alluded, a bit OTT at times. John Malkovich was just surreal, but in a fantastic way... but then they only had him say about 3 lines! 

One thing I noticed about the aftermath is there is no mention of the achievement by the other side. The intensity, mentality, sharpness... the insane atmosphere created by the fans. It's all their own failure... their inability to take what they perceive as rightfully theirs. In a way I see their point, apart from the fact that they were 3-0. The players they have, the aura their club has... they are Barca. But guess what.

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I really don't get the fascination with this thread. We came, we saw and we conquered.

That is what we do.

We have done it on numerous occasions. Barca aren't special so why glorify them.
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I haven't much thought about it since. But the video brought it back and also added an extra dimension to it. Fun reminiscence, even if the focus is on the here and now (and why wouldn't it be).

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I, like many others, think about this match every couple of days. I actually wanted to stay in and watch it because I couldn't get myself up for it, but my fella said (these actual words) "but what if we do a madness?" and dragged me to the pub. There's a reason I'm marrying him.

Firstly, when Robbo shoved the back of Messi's head, a little spark ignited in me.

The first we celebrated, in a sort of "yes, come on, this isn't done yet and look how early we've scored" kind of way.

Our second, more of a celebration, louder, more primal.

Our third, I don't remember what happened entirely but I do know I screamed like it was a horror film and I felt like I was floating all the way up into the sky and beyond. My mate nearly broke his leg celebrating cos he was stood on the bench and fell off and twatted it on the table.

Our fourth, my body felt like jelly and I just sort of slumped to the floor. Got home and cried my eyes out, and again on the way to work the next morning, and again on the way home from work that night.

By the time the final came around, I was calm. I was so, so calm. Before Kiev I was bricking it, I got on the ale at about 11am and I was still terrified. Madrid, I was zen. Maybe it helped that we scored so early, but at no point in that match did I worry that we wouldn't do the business. The business was already done at Anfield. I was genuinely more nervous when we were playing Wolves the other week ;D

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As a comeback, I don't think it matches 2005, for all sorts of reasons.

But it's as much the lasting impact of that Barcelona game that makes it extra special. If Kiev 2018 was where we realised what we needed to do to take it to the next level. Barcelona at Anfield was the night where everyone, fans and players alike, really showed that we had started to believe we could actually do it.

I'm not sure we'd be in the position we're in now in the league if we hadn't pulled that off.

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I actually wanted to stay in and watch it because I couldn't get myself up for it, but my fella said (these actual words) "but what if we do a madness?" and dragged me to the pub.
I can still recall having a similar feeling the whole day before the game kicked off, especially after the way the 1st leg had ended result wise.

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Just watched that video. Arrogance and entitlement are exactly the words to sum them up.

They put the defeat at Anfield solely down to them, their mental attitude, their errors, their inability to score. They expected to win, but they didn't expect to come up a team like Liverpool, who even without Firmino and Salah, were more than a match for them.

I'm sure Klopp and Henderson never talk to the team about going in and expecting to win a game like Messi and their coach did - turn up, don't their it away and we'll be too good.

We lost a final to Real, and look how we bounced back. Look where we are now at the top of the world. Such a contrast between the two clubs.

I know I'm replying to a 10-day old post but:

It's not only them. It's their fanbase, the Spanish media too - right after the match the narrative was that THEY bottled it. We weren't that good, I mean, we didn't even have Salah and Firmino! So we were the pesky underdogs, not even fit to lace their boots, that seized the opportunity. They bottled it. They lost it. They couldn't get Roma out of their heads so they froze and Valverde had no solutions to offer the team. Our quality had nothing to do with it, it was all on them.

After all, who were these guys in red compared to the mighty Barcelona? A 20 year old kid from Liverpool, a Belgian guy who had flopped in the Bundesliga, a Dutch midfielder that came from a relegated team, a Scottish leftback that came from a different relegated team and didn't even play during the second half, a 30-something year old journeyman widely seen as "boring" and a guy from Sunderland who had never won a major trophy and his captaincy of the national team was unremarkable. No stars, no world class names, just a bunch of reliable nobodies who had suddenly seen themselves in this incredible situation once again. Not like the star-studded Manchester City with Josep Guardiola at the helm, of course.

Nah - it was all on Barcelona. If you had watched those shows... oh man, it was all on them. Blasting the team. Blasting Valverde. Blasting Bartomeu. Liverpool was an afterthought, a freaky coincidence. The most complimentary thing they probably said was "they played well because Barcelona let them". No discussion on tactics whatsoever. It was all "Barca had the tie all sewn up, easy peasy, and they managed to fuck it up."

It was both hilarious and infuriating, I admit. They gave begrudging credit, but only because football is a game played between two teams - had it been solely up to them, they wouldn't have mentioned Liverpool at all.

Serves them right, though. Bunch of entitled fuckers.

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I know I'm replying to a 10-day old post but:

It's not only them. It's their fanbase, the Spanish media too - right after the match the narrative was that THEY bottled it. We weren't that good, I mean, we didn't even have Salah and Firmino! So we were the pesky underdogs, not even fit to lace their boots, that seized the opportunity. They bottled it. They lost it. They couldn't get Roma out of their heads so they froze and Valverde had no solutions to offer the team. Our quality had nothing to do with it, it was all on them.

After all, who were these guys in red compared to the mighty Barcelona? A 20 year old kid from Liverpool, a Belgian guy who had flopped in the Bundesliga, a Dutch midfielder that came from a relegated team, a Scottish leftback that came from a different relegated team and didn't even play during the second half, a 30-something year old journeyman widely seen as "boring" and a guy from Sunderland who had never won a major trophy and his captaincy of the national team was unremarkable. No stars, no world class names, just a bunch of reliable nobodies who had suddenly seen themselves in this incredible situation once again. Not like the star-studded Manchester City with Josep Guardiola at the helm, of course.

Nah - it was all on Barcelona. If you had watched those shows... oh man, it was all on them. Blasting the team. Blasting Valverde. Blasting Bartomeu. Liverpool was an afterthought, a freaky coincidence. The most complimentary thing they probably said was "they played well because Barcelona let them". No discussion on tactics whatsoever. It was all "Barca had the tie all sewn up, easy peasy, and they managed to fuck it up."

It was both hilarious and infuriating, I admit. They gave begrudging credit, but only because football is a game played between two teams - had it been solely up to them, they wouldn't have mentioned Liverpool at all.

Serves them right, though. Bunch of entitled fuckers.

None of that bodes well for them at all.

When you are totally blind to and/or in denial of where you went wrong, you don't address it and fix it. If you don't fix it, you leave yourself open to the possibility of it happening to you again at some point.

I do enjoy it when the opposition is so far up its own arse that it can't see or recognise reality.

Facts are, Liverpool were easily the better side home and away in the tie. God only knows how we lost at their place because we bossed them all over the pitch. At Anfield it was no contest. The only real shock in the entire tie was us not only losing, but conceding three over there after being the better side. Over the two legs, Barcelona were comprehensively beaten by the better side.

We gave them a spanking.

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I really don't get the fascination with this thread. We came, we saw and we conquered.

That is what we do.

We have done it on numerous occasions. Barca aren't special so why glorify them.

I don't get your compulsion to post in this thread.

If you don't understand the importance of this game both in the context of last season and the development of our current team then I don't know what to tell you.
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MATCHDAY: Inside FC Barcelona, Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bgk2-Vlx6Fb3sM4V-oDC2rnyoaOtnHF9/view

The first 30mins of this episode is heaven for any LFC supporter, enjoy. ;D

And some people still underestimate the Importance of a strong leader/dressing room. This is one of the best and most successful teams in the world absolutely terrified by the occasion.

Can you imagine Henderson or Klopp speaking about past defeats before a game? Can you fuck? All positive.

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Liverpool fans notice something about Barcelona star's Twitter seven months after Anfield comeback
Busquets has been rather quiet since that night at Anfield

Barcelona just can't forget about Anfield.

Indeed, Liverpool's epic 4-0 comeback victory is a reoccurring nightmare for the Catalan giants, who this week sacked manager Ernesto Valverde despite being top of La Liga.

The players just haven't been able to shake the spectre of the defeat and Liverpool fans have noticed that one senior star has been suspiciously inactive on social media since being dumped out of the Champions League at the hands of the Reds.

Sergio Busquets hasn't sent out a single tweet since that night at Anfield.

And what's more, the Barcelona midfielder had been very active on the platform since launching his Twitter in February of last year, tweeting numerous times a week and sometimes several times a day.

Indeed, Busquets tweeted in the build-up to the game at Anfield and his final effort included two pictures training inside Liverpool's stadium with the caption "We're ready".

Clearly not as ready as they needed to be, then.

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....and never forget.....No Salah or Bobby and Kompany had just scored THAT goal the night before....mentallity monsters started then
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I really don't get the fascination with this thread. We came, we saw and we conquered.

That is what we do.

We have done it on numerous occasions. Barca aren't special so why glorify them.

If Barca aren't special, neither were AC Milan. Let's just never look back at past victories, no matter how remarkable. What a miserable post.

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Barca dont seem to realise they do themselves no favours just saying they fucked up. It heaps so much extra pressure on themselves if they push a narrative that they were just under par against a side not as good as them.

The result showed we are no longer dependent on just one or two players to get us out of a jam. Their ego denies them the ability to admit that the best team over two legs went through and deservedly so. To do so means admitting that they are not Gods gift to football,  even if they do have Messi.

For myself, I am very happy we have more European Cups than they do.
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MATCHDAY: Inside FC Barcelona, Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bgk2-Vlx6Fb3sM4V-oDC2rnyoaOtnHF9/view

The first 30mins of this episode is heaven for any LFC supporter, enjoy. ;D

finally watched the first 30 minutes of this.

Goosebumps all over. Misty eyes.

It's nice to see them treating us with such reverence, even if after the fact, considering how dismissive and arrogant many of them were after the first leg. Reverence in the way they framed Anfield, the crowd, how they (their own fans and players!) hyped up the pre-match YNWA as something that you have to experience... the reverence and respect we deserve.

Kudos to Shakira and Piqué's little kids btw - that hug after the second goal was incredibly heartwarming ;D

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I'm going to vehemently disagree with Al.

Just because Liverpool are known for comebacks, doesn't mean it isn't special. That's a ridiculous notion.

The timing of the game - a day after our league title chances basically went up in smoke, the 2nd leg of the European Cup Semi-Final to go to the final, a Messi-led Barcelona still littered with tope level stars and a top level keeper, no Salah or Firmino.....

You can try to devalue Barcelona and say they weren't special - but they had one foot in the final. So Yeah, that was special. Incredibly special to the point that journalists, fans, coaches, players from other teams, and year end awards all recognize how special it was.

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Am I the only one who didn't watch this match live? 3-0 down, no Salah or Bobby, I just didn't think it could happen. I took my Mrs out for dinner & a movie. Checked the score afterwards and was absolutely elated but at the same time, devastated that I'd missed it. She felt sorry for me though so at least I got laid  :lmao

Am I a terrible fan?

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Am I the only one who didn't watch this match live? 3-0 down, no Salah or Bobby, I just didn't think it could happen. I took my Mrs out for dinner & a movie. Checked the score afterwards and was absolutely elated but at the same time, devastated that I'd missed it. She felt sorry for me though so at least I got laid  :lmao

Am I a terrible fan?

Yes, but you've suffered enough - that win was better than sex! (it sure lasted longer  ;D)

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None of that bodes well for them at all.

When you are totally blind to and/or in denial of where you went wrong, you don't address it and fix it. If you don't fix it, you leave yourself open to the possibility of it happening to you again at some point.

I do enjoy it when the opposition is so far up its own arse that it can't see or recognise reality.

Facts are, Liverpool were easily the better side home and away in the tie. God only knows how we lost at their place because we bossed them all over the pitch. At Anfield it was no contest. The only real shock in the entire tie was us not only losing, but conceding three over there after being the better side. Over the two legs, Barcelona were comprehensively beaten by the better side.

We gave them a spanking.

I was going to post similar but you've said it clearly, and from our point of view, it's beautiful. Yet another likely challenger over the next few years who are too full of themselves to see what's going on.
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Needs to be said again. Bloody hell!

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Yeah, Barcelona need a rebuild.  Messi might still be able to dominate the domestic league but in another year or two he might find himself struggling a bit on the European stage.  No matter how good he is, he'll be up against players who are younger and faster.  The added burden of carrying his team will play on him also.

We are in such a strong position to take advantage on the big stage.  Feels like we could be on the cusp of another, Paisley-esque golden era in Europe.
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