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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #160 on: January 10, 2019, 09:05:42 PM »
Last season, we beat them 5-1 with Wijnaldum and Emre Can as centre backs.

They're a better side since then.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2019, 09:08:04 PM »
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #162 on: January 10, 2019, 09:13:43 PM »
They're a better side since then.

And yet lower in the league.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #163 on: January 10, 2019, 09:28:45 PM »
I expect our 13th clean sheet in the league on Saturday.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #164 on: January 10, 2019, 09:52:38 PM »
They're a better side since then.

Brighton team likely to be almost identical except for the keeper (reserve) and Solly March included.  Points tally almost identical as well at the same stage as last season. Goal difference likewise.

Coutinho ran the show on his own last season.   


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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #165 on: January 10, 2019, 09:57:04 PM »
Hard to see City getting anything other than full points from their next 3 games.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #166 on: January 10, 2019, 09:57:24 PM »
Brighton team likely to be almost identical except for the keeper (reserve) and Solly March included.  Points tally almost identical as well at the same stage as last season. Goal difference likewise.

Coutinho ran the show on his own last season.

Thought they fixed their defensive frailties in terms of goal conceded in comparison to last year[I think we scored 2 from set pieces last year I believe against them
 
I remember Mignolet making a fantastic save before we countered and scored our first.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #167 on: January 10, 2019, 10:12:09 PM »
Thought they fixed their defensive frailties in terms of goal conceded in comparison to last year[I think we scored 2 from set pieces last year I believe against them
 
I remember Mignolet making a fantastic save before we countered and scored our first.
They have conceded 29 goals which is on par with newcastle(tied for 8th best in the league). Understat has them at Xga of 32.24(12th best D in the league)

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #168 on: January 10, 2019, 10:15:04 PM »
Thought they fixed their defensive frailties in terms of goal conceded in comparison to last year[I think we scored 2 from set pieces last year I believe against them
 
I remember Mignolet making a fantastic save before we countered and scored our first.

he did - saw the highlights today - it was a kick save from a Murray header - and then boom - 15 seconds later Firmino finds the back of the net. Heck of a goal.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #169 on: January 10, 2019, 10:47:19 PM »
Hard to see City getting anything other than full points from their next 3 games.

I see no reason why we shouldn't also. I know City slipped up against Leicester and Palace, but there is no reason we shouldn't be beating them at home with our current Anfield record. They also have two cup games to play in that time.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #170 on: January 10, 2019, 10:55:01 PM »
Thought they fixed their defensive frailties in terms of goal conceded in comparison to last year[I think we scored 2 from set pieces last year I believe against them
 
I remember Mignolet making a fantastic save before we countered and scored our first.

Set piece fraility at both ends remedied from last season. This has prevented the also rans from scoring. Stats don't really count against the top 6. Brighton have been more error prone from open play this season (e.g. Salah at Anfield) and conceded from counter attacks more often (both goals 2-0 at the Etihad).

Did enough to beat Arsenal and should have won by two clear goals (1-1) and enough to draw against Spurs (1-2 disallowed goal, when Spurs scored first) but not enough to trouble Hazard-inspired Chelsea 1-2, at the Amex.

An 'orchestra' in attacking midfield really needed to break down a deep defence. But the gegenpressing forcing mistakes just as likely.

Brighton need to decide whether to persevere with the ponderously slow Murray in attack. Brighton don't lump it like Stoke and Burnley though. Not from open play.



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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #171 on: January 10, 2019, 11:24:40 PM »
We battered Brighton last season away (and home) but in that 5-1 we actually struggled to create a real chance until Can scored from a corner between 30-35 minutes and then we produced 2 brilliant counter attacking goals.

They are a decent side. They should have beaten Arsenal and they only just lost to Spurs and Chelsea at home by the odd goal. It wont be an easy game at all and I can see a single goal deciding it.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #172 on: January 10, 2019, 11:31:58 PM »
Hard to see City getting anything other than full points from their next 3 games.

We need to think less about City and concentrate on ourselves. Do the business and we don't have to worry about what they do.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #173 on: January 10, 2019, 11:53:02 PM »
As usual these days, a lot more has to go right for Brighton for them to even get a draw let alone anything more than go wrong for us.  We're just better and by a lot.  I'm not even really concerned about the CB situation because offensively they are terrible.

We're so consistent now, we play the way we should and this is 3 points.  That's it.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #174 on: January 11, 2019, 12:00:23 AM »
I think Mo wins this for us (the whole thing...)

That picture of the Man City players celebrating at full time and him in the foreground just looking....vengeful has just got me pretty confident.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #175 on: January 11, 2019, 12:45:57 AM »
Before the City game I think it’s fair to say we were in the best form we’ve been in all season. I don’t see why we can’t pick up where we left off. I’m not worried about either of the last 2 results, City aren’t a bad side and the Wolves game was a very different line up.

The biggest issue is the number of injuries we have all of a sudden.
I still think the confidence and desire of the main first team players to get right back on it will see us through here though and it’s hopefully the start of another winning run.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #176 on: January 11, 2019, 12:56:35 AM »
Looks like there is a possibility that Henderson may not be ready for this match due to his calf injury. Will depend whether or not he can complete training tomorrow. Then surely we go with Wijnaldum Keita and Milner in mifdield, or a double pivot of Wijnaldum and Keita, with Firmino,Shaqiri,Mane and Salah as the ''front'' four

But a double pivot of just Wijnaldum and Milner would be the wrong way to go imo
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #177 on: January 11, 2019, 01:52:35 AM »
Hard to see City getting anything other than full points from their next 3 games.

Agreed. On paper the Wolves games looks hard for them especially since Wolves have been great against the top sides but I actually think City will beat them easily. But we can’t control any of their results. We can, however, control ours. A win here and 3 of the next 4 are at home. I fancy us to always win any game at home so if we can get a win here it will really help our cause. Remember the more we win the smaller the margin becomes for them to catch us up.

If we play like we’ve done all season we should win here, but it won’t be easy. Then again no game in the PL is easy.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #178 on: January 11, 2019, 02:02:05 AM »
It’s not so long ago when City were going to get maximum points from Palace and Leicester. How did that turn out?

People never learn.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #179 on: January 11, 2019, 02:32:46 AM »
Looks like there is a possibility that Henderson may not be ready for this match due to his calf injury. Will depend whether or not he can complete training tomorrow. Then surely we go with Wijnaldum Keita and Milner in mifdield, or a double pivot of Wijnaldum and Keita, with Firmino,Shaqiri,Mane and Salah as the ''front'' four

But a double pivot of just Wijnaldum and Milner would be the wrong way to go imo

Wijnaldum, Milner, and Keita is the midfield we started the season with. Would be extremely confident if that was our lineup. Especially with Fabinho and Virgil behind them to also distribute the ball quickly to our front three.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2019, 02:50:34 AM »
Looks like there is a possibility that Henderson may not be ready for this match due to his calf injury. Will depend whether or not he can complete training tomorrow. Then surely we go with Wijnaldum Keita and Milner in mifdield, or a double pivot of Wijnaldum and Keita, with Firmino,Shaqiri,Mane and Salah as the ''front'' four

But a double pivot of just Wijnaldum and Milner would be the wrong way to go imo

If Hendo is out then Keita most likely comes in as Fabinho will be playing CB again. Unless we go with Shaqiri and the front 3 and just Gini and Milner in midfield. I can’t see the latter though.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2019, 03:39:35 AM »
We are in the driving seat and I think Klopp is the sort of guy that loves this sort of challenge and the way he has shaped up the squad and his voice in their ears goes a lot further than anybody else's so I'm hoping that reflects on what we see on Saturday
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2019, 08:11:37 AM »
They're a better side since then.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2019, 08:27:12 AM »
Forget about city......guardy is pushing his team to give 110% in cups against inferior opposition because he just wants to prove some points to the press. It is like "blowing his load" too soon.

Man city are again gonna breakdown soon as they can't keep this up.

We should just concentrate on ourselves. In a way...losing our unbeaten start should make us stronger in the run up to May 2019 because that weight is off our shoulders and we can just focus on playing football.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #184 on: January 11, 2019, 08:32:49 AM »
Forget about city......guardy is pushing his team to give 110% in cups against inferior opposition because he just wants to prove some points to the press. It is like "blowing his load" too soon.

Man city are again gonna breakdown soon as they can't keep this up.

We should just concentrate on ourselves. In a way...losing our unbeaten start should make us stronger in the run up to May 2019 because that weight is off our shoulders and we can just focus on playing football.



Keep seeing people say things like this but how many of that team that started against Burton are actually in their first choice xi?

Their 'second xi' is a lot better than ours and so it should be with all the money they have sent (and not recouped) over the past few years.

All we can do is go out to win every game and im confident a new string of consecutive wins starts against Brighton. 3-0 to the reds.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #186 on: January 11, 2019, 09:22:32 AM »
If the situation requires Fabinho at centre back,that's not a problem alongside VVD.He is obviously most effective in midfield but needs must I suppose.A three of Hen do,Gini and Shaqiri should be enough to keep the Brighton midfield pinned in their own half.
This won't be the gimme three points some see it as.These are a decent well organised side who can make it difficult.We need to be patient and take our opportunities when they come around.
I'd be over the moon to come away with any sort of victory here.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #187 on: January 11, 2019, 09:37:08 AM »
Would be fantastic to pick up the 3 points after the defeat at City.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #188 on: January 11, 2019, 09:50:06 AM »
We need to think less about City and concentrate on ourselves. Do the business and we don't have to worry about what they do.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #189 on: January 11, 2019, 10:32:45 AM »
Yes forget about city and spurs, if we get more points than them in the remaining games then we're guaranteed to come out top.  It's in our own hands and we're not reliant on them dropping points unless we do.  It's important that we get 3 points tomorrow after 2 defeats on the bounce.  It would be nice to get a big win to send out a statement to the others saying our blip is over.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #190 on: January 11, 2019, 10:39:18 AM »
Looks like there is a possibility that Henderson may not be ready for this match due to his calf injury. Will depend whether or not he can complete training tomorrow. Then surely we go with Wijnaldum Keita and Milner in mifdield, or a double pivot of Wijnaldum and Keita, with Firmino,Shaqiri,Mane and Salah as the ''front'' four

But a double pivot of just Wijnaldum and Milner would be the wrong way to go imo

Personally I'd go with Milner, Keita and Wijnaldum if Henderson isn't fit.

At this moment I'd be uncomfortable with either Wijnaldum/Milner or Wijnaldum/Keita as a double pivot.

Think we need to sacrifice Shaqiri and go with a 3 man midfield with Wijanldum as the No.6 and the other 2 as No.8's.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #191 on: January 11, 2019, 10:59:50 AM »
Any press conference links?

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #192 on: January 11, 2019, 10:59:59 AM »
Yes forget about city and spurs, if we get more points than them in the remaining games then we're guaranteed to come out top.  It's in our own hands and we're not reliant on them dropping points unless we do.  It's important that we get 3 points tomorrow after 2 defeats on the bounce.  It would be nice to get a big win to send out a statement to the others saying our blip is over.

Yep, we have to win tomorrow.
It's not a gimme with Brighton's home form by any means but I don't actually think even though it's at the Etihad Wolves is a gimme for Manchester City either.  Big weekend this.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2019, 11:07:08 AM »
Personally I'd go with Milner, Keita and Wijnaldum if Henderson isn't fit.

At this moment I'd be uncomfortable with either Wijnaldum/Milner or Wijnaldum/Keita as a double pivot.

Think we need to sacrifice Shaqiri and go with a 3 man midfield with Wijanldum as the No.6 and the other 2 as No.8's.

Wijnaldum / Keita should be a totally natural very high level double pivot
Naby's played a large part of his career as part of a 2

Milner on the other hand should never be part of a midfield 2

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2019, 11:07:29 AM »
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2019, 11:13:03 AM »
I'm sure Brighton will 'give it a go', it's an away game in the premier league, most teams regardless of their position are up for it until you put a couple past them. The important thing is not to let the home team get too comfortable.
We played the game last season with a back three consisting of Lovren and two midfielders with Mignolet in goal, Mane didn't even play. We'll be alright. We just need to kick on and open up a 7 point lead again tomorrow.

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #197 on: January 11, 2019, 11:19:52 AM »
Hard to see City getting anything other than full points from their next 3 games.
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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #198 on: January 11, 2019, 11:20:46 AM »
Reckon we'll smash these to be honest

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Re: Pre-match thread: Brighton vs Liverpool, 12th January, 3pm
« Reply #199 on: January 11, 2019, 11:34:54 AM »
Cant wait now, all this drama about lostgames, new injuries, illness, no CB's  . . . . .

When the going gets tough, the tough get going . . . . .  and all that!

Glad for the super strength up front, sure to keep the goal score ticking.

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