Author Topic: The 2019 Formula One Thread (Read 142248 times)

west_london_red · « **Reply #600 on:** March 30, 2019, 03:27:11 pm »

Quality comment from Rosberg - the Ferrari smells funny.

potatomato33 · « **Reply #601 on:** March 30, 2019, 03:56:24 pm »

Wow, Leclerc and Norris turning it on.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #602 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:02:40 pm »

Leclerc showing his talent. Be a good fight tomorrow between the top four.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #603 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:02:47 pm »

the kid is quick.

clinical · « **Reply #604 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:03:04 pm »

Still think you should get a point for pole rather than fastest lap.

Trump's tiny tiny hands · « **Reply #605 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:06:23 pm »

Midfield race is shaping up nicely. Very little between 5th and 10th

What the hell was up with Ferrari in Melbourne??

eyescream · « **Reply #606 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:11:24 pm »

Quote from: Trump's tiny tiny hands on March 30, 2019, 04:06:23 pm

Midfield race is shaping up nicely. Very little between 5th and 10th

What the hell was up with Ferrari in Melbourne??

I read somewhere that the car was "overcooling".

Congrats to Charles on his first F1 Pole position.
It may sound strange, but I still feel sad for Jules Bianchi. He could have been in the car now.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #607 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:14:42 pm »

Quote from: Trump's tiny tiny hands on March 30, 2019, 04:06:23 pm

Midfield race is shaping up nicely. Very little between 5th and 10th

What the hell was up with Ferrari in Melbourne??

Balance was poor. Marko mentioned cooling issues but nothing from Ferrari about that. Won't get a good idea where the teams are till we go back to Catalunya. First few tracks are quite different.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #608 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:50:23 pm »

nice f bomb by ocon on the sky f1 show there.

Darren G · « **Reply #609 on:** March 30, 2019, 06:05:24 pm »

QUALI TIMES:

Charles Leclerc (Mon) Ferrari 1min 27.866secs
Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Ferrari 1:28.160
Lewis Hamilton (Gbr) Mercedes GP 1:28.190
Valtteri Bottas (Fin) Mercedes GP 1:28.256
Max Verstappen (Ned) Red Bull 1:28.752
Kevin Magnussen (Den) Haas F1 1:28.757
Carlos Sainz (Spa) McLaren 1:28.813
Romain Grosjean (Fra) Haas F1 1:29.015
Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Alfa Romeo Racing 1:29.022
Lando Norris (Gbr) McLaren 1:29.043
Daniel Ricciardo (Aus) Renault 1:29.488
Alexander Albon (Tha) Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:29.513
Pierre Gasly (Fra) Red Bull 1:29.526
Sergio Perez (Mex) Racing Point 1:29.756
Daniil Kvyat (Rus) Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:29.854
Antonio Giovinazzi (Ita) Alfa Romeo Racing 1:30.026
Nico Hulkenberg (Ger) Renault 1:30.034
Lance Stroll (Can) Racing Point 1:30.217
George Russell (Gbr) Williams 1:31.759
Robert Kubica (Pol) Williams 1:31.799

voodoo ray · « **Reply #610 on:** March 30, 2019, 06:16:10 pm »

that williams might be quicker if they got out and pushed it.

west_london_red · « **Reply #611 on:** March 30, 2019, 07:23:16 pm »

Quote from: voodoo ray on March 30, 2019, 06:16:10 pm

that williams might be quicker if they got out and pushed it.

Might actually help if it wasn’t for the fact that they have among the best engine on the grid and are still that shit.

Patrick Head really has got his work cut out for him to try and turn it around there.

Graeme · « **Reply #612 on:** March 30, 2019, 07:53:49 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on March 30, 2019, 04:14:42 pm

Balance was poor. Marko mentioned cooling issues but nothing from Ferrari about that. Won't get a good idea where the teams are till we go back to Catalunya. First few tracks are quite different.

Helmut Marko? Doubt he’s got much of a clue what goes on inside a Red Bull let alone a Ferrari.

Darren G · « **Reply #613 on:** March 31, 2019, 04:19:51 am »

Quote from: voodoo ray on March 30, 2019, 06:16:10 pm

that williams might be quicker if they got out and pushed it.

Cut a hole in the floor and use the flinstones-style propulsion method perhaps.

Anyhow...

Things look very similar to last year in terms of qualifying pace for the first two races. Mercedes (well, Lewis) 7/10ths quicker in Melbourne, Ferrari 3/10ths quicker in Bahrain. Early days, but it could be another twisty-turny season.

El Lobo · « **Reply #614 on:** March 31, 2019, 06:48:36 pm »

Excellent win from Lewis today, and very classy to go straight up to Leclerc after the race

TepidT2O · « **Reply #615 on:** March 31, 2019, 06:49:18 pm »

Ok, who saw a Hamilton win when the match started?

west_london_red · « **Reply #616 on:** March 31, 2019, 07:13:01 pm »

Hamilton obviously fortunate because of what happened to Leclerc but you have to be in there to take advantage of the bad luck of others which he did by owning Vettel.

But Leclercs time will come soon and I would be very worried if I was Vettel for the long run. Shanghai is pretty similar to Bahrain so hopefully Leclerc gets another chance at the next race.

Race was entertaining but DRS is in danger of turning the racing into a Mario Kart-esq game where those behind are given a red shell or a mushroom thanks to DRS.

Tesco tearaway · « **Reply #617 on:** March 31, 2019, 07:33:05 pm »

Watched/kept an eye on this today as it was free on Sky1.
I much prefer C4 coverage; it's just a pity they're getting strangled to death by Sky

Did make me smile when Rosberg pronounced 'Bottas' as 'Butters' though

Darren G · « **Reply #618 on:** March 31, 2019, 07:57:55 pm »

Seb fucks up, Ferrari let down their other driver and Lewis lucks into another win.

clinical · « **Reply #619 on:** March 31, 2019, 08:43:21 pm »

Hamilton has destroyed Vettel mentally. Now Leclerc will finish him off. Seb to Williams 2020.

west_london_red · « **Reply #620 on:** March 31, 2019, 08:49:42 pm »

Quote from: Darren G on March 31, 2019, 07:57:55 pm

Seb fucks up, Ferrari let down their other driver and Lewis lucks into another win.

If it was a one off I’d agree with that summary but when it keeps on happening you can’t keep calling it luck on Hamilton’s part. Ferrari literally keep gifting Mercedes wins that much that even when things are not going their way Mercedes know that if they just keep the cars on the track they have a decent chance of getting a victory because there’s a very good chance Ferrari will cock it up somehow and today was no exception to that. Vettel should have been the one in second ready to take the victory once Leclerc started having problems instead he was 5th at the time. That wasn’t because of Hamilton’s luck, it’s because Vettel can’t compete with him and I take no pleasure in saying that.

SP · « **Reply #621 on:** March 31, 2019, 09:23:10 pm »

Is the Energy Recovery System one of the bits that they are only allowed 2 of for the season? Breaking one this early is a serious problem for Leclerc.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #622 on:** March 31, 2019, 09:29:09 pm »

Interesting hearing Hamilton in the interview straight after saying that when he overtook Vettel he looked at the flag on top of the grandstand and saw it was a headwind so braked later than usual, tiny details.

The new and improved Bottas I kept hearing about after Australia looked more like the old Bottas.

Felt sorry for Leclerc, he didn’t deserve that. Ferrari being too cautious with cooling in Australia and then suffering a mechanical issue. This car is fast but maybe sensitive.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #623 on:** March 31, 2019, 09:55:51 pm »

Norris 6th.... that’s.... very impressive

TepidT2O · « **Reply #624 on:** March 31, 2019, 10:04:44 pm »

Blimey.. vettel span and flat spotted his tyres..

The vibration made his nose fall off... wow

Beav · « **Reply #625 on:** March 31, 2019, 10:07:56 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on March 31, 2019, 09:29:09 pm

Interesting hearing Hamilton in the interview straight after saying that when he overtook Vettel he looked at the flag on top of the grandstand and saw it was a headwind so braked later than usual, tiny details.

He's always been labelled as a raw talent kind of driver, but he's matured into one of the most intelligent racers around, always adjusting and thinking about his moves, be it attacking or defending.

My heart breaks for Leclerc after his speed in qualifying and the maturity he showed controlling the race after a scruffy opening lap. But like Hamilton said to him after, he's got many years and wins to come.

clinical · « **Reply #626 on:** March 31, 2019, 10:17:01 pm »

I have to say it's rich from Rosberg saying Vettel cracking under pressure (which he is) when Hamilton basically exhausted Rosberg into early retirement.

mc_red22 · « **Reply #627 on:** March 31, 2019, 10:23:35 pm »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 31, 2019, 09:55:51 pm

Norris 6th.... that’s.... very impressive

If only Sainz didn't get into that knock with Verstappen. Great weekend on the whole for McLaren, hopefully it's not a one off and they can start picking up points.

bradders1011 · « **Reply #628 on:** March 31, 2019, 10:44:16 pm »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 31, 2019, 09:55:51 pm

Norris 6th.... that’s.... very impressive

Incredibly so. Lad's going places.

Gasly won't see the season out in the big boy Red Bull.

Cyril will be in Paris answering some serious questions this week.

paulrazor · « **Reply #629 on:** April 1, 2019, 08:55:05 am »

Quote from: clinical on March 31, 2019, 10:17:01 pm

I have to say it's rich from Rosberg saying Vettel cracking under pressure (which he is) when Hamilton basically exhausted Rosberg into early retirement.

and cracked him up a few times. the cap throwing incident

i only glanced at c4 highlights, 10 mins before it went on air and i got a tweet, when i then searched for something else the result showed up

very very unlucky on leclerc. hamilton showed a lot of class afterwards and as funky and beav said he has crossed the line into experienced smart old head whilst not losing his speed.

vettel again comes out of a brawl with hamilton with a bloody nose

clinical · « **Reply #630 on:** April 1, 2019, 10:04:34 am »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 31, 2019, 09:55:51 pm

Norris 6th.... that’s.... very impressive

Sainz was miles ahead of him and was about to overtake Max. Mclaren are much better this year, finally.

Mercs look much better in the slow corners this year and still good on fast corners. Ferrari are even faster on the straights.

Toto said they need to see if that's power or drag causing the difference. I think probably a little of both.

Big fan of Leclerc too, humble guy. It's going to be him vs Max once Hamilton and Vettel retire. And I'll be definitely behind him over Max.

IgorBobbins · « **Reply #631 on:** April 1, 2019, 11:40:45 am »

Quote from: clinical on April 1, 2019, 10:04:34 am

Big fan of Leclerc too, humble guy. It's going to be him vs Max once Hamilton and Vettel retire. And I'll be definitely behind him over Max.

It does look like that's going to be the next big rivalry - both young and super talented.

I wonder where Max will end up - Ferrari or Merc?

clinical · « **Reply #632 on:** April 1, 2019, 11:44:05 am »

Quote from: IgorBobbins on April 1, 2019, 11:40:45 am

It does look like that's going to be the next big rivalry - both young and super talented.

I wonder where Max will end up - Ferrari or Merc?

He won't join same team as Leclerc. I think he'll stay at Red Bull for few years, see how they do. Then see what Hamilton does. I can see him going to Mercedes when Hamilton retires if Red Bull are still 3rd fastest.

I think it's up to Hamilton. He's got a contract for 2 more years. I think if he's in touching distance of Schumacher's race wins he'll carry on. I don't think he'll win 7 titles though. Thing with Hamilton he's in Ferrari's head now. He's mentally stronger than their whole team, he makes not only Vettel panic, but the whole decision making side as well. Priceless in this sport which often comes down to little errors.

People won't agree and like him or hate him when he retires he'll most likely be the GOAT, for me.

paulrazor · « **Reply #633 on:** April 1, 2019, 11:45:22 am »

verstappen will be happy enough at red bull. He's pretty much unofficial number 1 right now and the honda engine doesnt appear to be too bad this year

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #634 on:** April 1, 2019, 11:55:47 am »

I still wonder if Hamilton would like a year or two at Ferrari to finish his career off. Hamilton always seems to be on a public relations campaign with Ferrari, even going up to Leclerc straight after the race yesterday.

IgorBobbins · « **Reply #635 on:** April 1, 2019, 11:59:49 am »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on April 1, 2019, 11:55:47 am

I still wonder if Hamilton would like a year or two at Ferrari to finish his career off. Hamilton always seems to be on a public relations campaign with Ferrari, even going up to Leclerc straight after the race yesterday.

I think he'll retire at Merc, personally. But stranger things have happened.

Qston · « **Reply #636 on:** April 1, 2019, 12:04:19 pm »

Quote from: IgorBobbins on April 1, 2019, 11:59:49 am

I think he'll retire at Merc, personally. But stranger things have happened.

Perhaps McLaren ? I know Alonso is waiting in the wings for when/if the car is genuinely competing for podiums but he is a few years older. It will have come full circle of Hamilton. Just a thought

clinical · « **Reply #637 on:** April 1, 2019, 01:10:30 pm »

Quote from: Qston on April 1, 2019, 12:04:19 pm

Perhaps McLaren ? I know Alonso is waiting in the wings for when/if the car is genuinely competing for podiums but he is a few years older. It will have come full circle of Hamilton. Just a thought

Can't see him going anywhere near a car that isn't challenging.

Qston · « **Reply #638 on:** April 1, 2019, 01:15:20 pm »

Quote from: clinical on April 1, 2019, 01:10:30 pm

Can't see him going anywhere near a car that isn't challenging.

Sorry, I meant if it is challenging at the front again - hence the reference to Alonso in a similar way

Skeeve · « **Reply #639 on:** April 1, 2019, 01:16:03 pm »

Quote from: clinical on March 31, 2019, 10:17:01 pm

I have to say it's rich from Rosberg saying Vettel cracking under pressure (which he is) when Hamilton basically exhausted Rosberg into early retirement.

You could say that he is speaking from a position of experience though rather than speculating as wildly as another pundit might be doing.