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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1320 on: February 10, 2020, 06:56:26 PM »
Did you only read the last couple posts?

Here in full:

Everton goalkeeper Jordan Pickford says criticism does not affect him, adding "everyone hates you" when you are an England player.

The 25-year-old was at fault for Christian Benteke's goal on Saturday as Everton went seventh in the Premier League thanks to a 3-1 win against Crystal Palace.

Pickford says the criticism is unfair.

"Everyone hates you, for some reason, that's part of being an England player," he said.

"I think the press and everybody, the punters - look at Gary Neville - they just want to come for England players.

"You have got to live with it, you have got to learn. I know what I am capable of and I know what I am good at."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51437033
I know he said it, I was more asking what kind of situation was this. A post match interview, a one to one for football focus....
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1321 on: February 10, 2020, 07:13:15 PM »
I know he said it, I was more asking what kind of situation was this. A post match interview, a one to one for football focus....
I just had a little look around and I couldn't find anything that stated who exactly he was talking to, but it did say he was asked after the Palace game about the pressure on his England place by Dean Henderson. So, I assume it was a post-match, post-mistake interview, but with whom, I don't know.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1322 on: February 10, 2020, 07:36:21 PM »
He is genuinely one of the worst keepers to play in the top division, he's awful and stealing a living

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1323 on: February 10, 2020, 08:22:14 PM »
As noted previously - if not comical goal keeping, then it would be comical box-stacking in a warehouse unable to reach high shelves.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1324 on: February 10, 2020, 08:55:01 PM »
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"It's funny because everyone raves about you when you are with England but then you get back to your club and everyone wants to slate you."
Pickford misses the point that he actually gets a remarkably easy ride when playing for England compared to almost every other player.  He gets slated at Everton because he just keeps on playing poorly, making mistakes and acting like a prat (on and off the pitch).

I think it's good for goalkeepers to have a thick skin and self-confidence - Lord knows David James would have benefited from some of Pickford's bravado - but Pickford seems to take it too far.  He doesn't seem willing or able to learn and he's still making all the same poor decisions he was as a raw talent at Sunderland.

Southgate won't ever drop him but I expect it will be the first thing the next England manager, whenever that may be, will do.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1325 on: February 10, 2020, 09:06:08 PM »
I just had a little look around and I couldn't find anything that stated who exactly he was talking to, but it did say he was asked after the Palace game about the pressure on his England place by Dean Henderson. So, I assume it was a post-match, post-mistake interview, but with whom, I don't know.

Probably just talking to himself after making a routine save look difficult, followed by shouting at his defence and making some words gestures.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1326 on: February 10, 2020, 10:24:21 PM »
- look at Gary Neville -

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1327 on: February 10, 2020, 10:32:50 PM »
"The Crystal Palace striker’s subsequent effort from point-blank range wasn’t the only thing Pickford got off his chest, as he decided to unburden himself during a post-match interview in which he explained how impervious he is to criticism, while simultaneously conveying the distinct impression that it actually bothers him quite a lot.

“I don’t let it affect me,” he said, before immediately contradicting himself. “But it does piss you off.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/10/the-fiver-jordan-pickford-everton-england-phil-neville
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1328 on: February 10, 2020, 10:43:50 PM »
I've never known the word "wanker" to suit a person more.  What a wanker.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1329 on: February 10, 2020, 11:00:09 PM »
I've never known the word "wanker" to suit a person more.  What a wanker.

nowhere near the best english goalie going into the euro's, he's been ok, he's been meh, now he's straight a liability and has been for some time, no way he should be getting number one spot in the national side
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1330 on: February 11, 2020, 01:35:23 AM »
Much as I enjoy picking on T-Rex, I think he makes a good point about the media going after England players. Lee Dixon and Gary Neville have gone in hard on Trent over the last year. Much of it is due to jealousy, I feel: neither one of them was ever half the player Trent is... Not even quarter. And the kid’s only 21. Yeah, sure Trent isn’t the greatest defender in the world but the “can’t defend/can-be-got-at” narrative they’ve created and fed about the boy is way over the top.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1331 on: February 11, 2020, 02:52:19 AM »
Neville literally said that Trent is one of the best attacking fullbacks he has ever seen,granted he said that he needed to work on his defending but that's what we all thought & the two most important people Jurgen and Trent will think the same.His defending has come on leaps and bounds since Neville made that comment as well btw.

Pickford should keep his gob shut and put as much effort into learning his craft as he does drinking and making a total twot of himself.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1332 on: February 11, 2020, 03:25:28 AM »
Neville literally said that Trent is one of the best attacking fullbacks he has ever seen,granted he said that he needed to work on his defending but that's what we all thought & the two most important people Jurgen and Trent will think the same.His defending has come on leaps and bounds since Neville made that comment as well btw.

Pickford should keep his gob shut and put as much effort into learning his craft as he does drinking and making a total twot of himself.

Liv-Man United match 3 weeks ago Neville was screaming his shitty little head off about how Gomez and Trent "can be got at"... it was the live commentary with Carragher and Martin Tyler where Carra couldn't get a word in.

 Am not saying he never praises Trent or that Trent can't improve defensively. But it's with a forked tongue that Neville and Dixon praise Gomez and Trent.  They've been more relentless with their criticism than they've been generous with their praise, and they've both contributed to the narrative that Trent can't defend. He's often brilliant defensively save for a few one on one situations. The criticism is often over the top and the good defensive work completely ignored if there's even one minor error that doesn't even lead to a goal conceded.

No denying Pickford is being a gobshite too but I think he's right about Gary Neville.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1333 on: February 11, 2020, 03:49:47 AM »
I've never known the word "wanker" to suit a person more.  What a wanker.

An ironic moniker, considering the length of his arms.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1334 on: February 11, 2020, 05:04:22 AM »
From ESPN:


This season, only Kepa Arrizabalaga and Southampton's collective stoppers have a worse save percentage than Pickford.

All 3 keepers would struggle to save a word document
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1336 on: February 11, 2020, 11:30:49 AM »
Chris Sutton weighing in now;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51452859

Pickford inviting himself more criticism for being a wanker.

He was rattled but went on with his own way of justification that he wasn't, only to convince people that his is indeed rattled.

This is a classic example of a wanker trying to play mind games only to hurt himself.

Southgate better drop him now before he cause more damage to himself and the team. The FA should announce tomorrow that Pickford is no longer considered for internationals so he could nurse his own ego back to health.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1337 on: February 11, 2020, 11:31:02 AM »
Pickford is poor, the fact he is defended by Evertonians is brilliant.....be the first on my sheet of 'need to get rid of' players if i were their Director of Football.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1338 on: February 11, 2020, 11:31:51 AM »
The biggest myth in football is he is good with the ball at his feet.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1339 on: February 11, 2020, 11:34:59 AM »
His obsession with playing for England is part of his problem. He should concentrate on his club team first. Best thing for him would be to get dropped completely from the england set up, not that it will happen.

He has zero humility, which is also a massive problem. Yes you want golies to be confident, but it isnt confidence with him, it's absolute arrogance, and a failure to 'get' what everyone else sees. Sure, he's likely as thick as two short (armed) planks, but my god, someone needs to take a hold of him and tell him to tone down his horrendous attitude. The lad needs media training as much as he needs goalie training.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1340 on: February 11, 2020, 11:55:17 AM »
I've said before, he carries himself on the pitch with that same kind of arrogance that the likes of Kasper Schmeichel also does. The difference is that Schmeichel is a good goalie and does have a PL winners medal.

Pickford's career has literally been mostly about his making hilarious blunders and not about match-winning saves, brilliant performances in high profile european games or finals.

He's got absolutely nothing to be arrogant about. But he continues to be just that.

Perhaps if he stopped letting in laughable goals, making poor decisions, kicking the ball straight out of play from goal-kicks and shut his mouth a bit things might change.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1341 on: February 11, 2020, 12:04:00 PM »
The biggest myth in football is he is good with the ball at his feet.

Too easy.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1342 on: February 11, 2020, 12:10:28 PM »
Yeah he’s total shite. Adrian is a better keeper than him, if they had any sense they would of gone for him in the summer as he’d probably be their first choice over Pickford quite comfortably

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1343 on: February 11, 2020, 12:19:46 PM »
The biggest myth in football is he is good with the ball at his feet.

There was a moment at the weekend where the commentator said exactly that, was praising his distribution.  Then just as he finishes his sentence the ball goes back to Pickford and he hoofs it into touch ;D

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1344 on: February 11, 2020, 01:39:46 PM »
He's totally deluded isn't he. If anything, England players are overprotected. He just can't accept that he's getting criticism because he's been putting in shite performances. Say what you want about Neville but he's pretty fair in his judgement of players. I can't think of another England player who the media has 'gone for' like he is describing, except for Sterling but that was a different scenario.

Like others have said already, his attitude is awful and I can see him falling out of favour. It should start with losing his place in the England team for Henderson or Pope. They're far better, and the former in particular deserves it after a solid season.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1345 on: February 11, 2020, 02:37:18 PM »
Pickford inviting himself more criticism for being a wanker.

He was rattled but went on with his own way of justification that he wasn't, only to convince people that his is indeed rattled.

This is a classic example of a wanker trying to play mind games only to hurt himself.

Southgate better drop him now before he cause more damage to himself and the team. The FA should announce tomorrow that Pickford is no longer considered for internationals so he could nurse his own ego back to health.

He outwanked himself. ;D

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1346 on: February 11, 2020, 02:38:44 PM »
He's totally deluded isn't he. If anything, England players are overprotected. He just can't accept that he's getting criticism because he's been putting in shite performances. Say what you want about Neville but he's pretty fair in his judgement of players. I can't think of another England player who the media has 'gone for' like he is describing, except for Sterling but that was a different scenario.

Like others have said already, his attitude is awful and I can see him falling out of favour. It should start with losing his place in the England team for Henderson or Pope. They're far better, and the former in particular deserves it after a solid season.

I don't really follow the media, but wasn't there a bit of a hoo-ha over Gomez after Sterling went for him?  Who came off worst from that in the coverage?
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1347 on: February 11, 2020, 02:58:57 PM »
Chris Sutton weighing in now;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51452859

What gets me is that this forum and social media in general have been highlighting his deficiencies since this past fall. Also anyone with 2 eyes could see Henderson was far superior. Why is the English media so late to the party? Only because now the statistics prove it?
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1348 on: February 11, 2020, 04:18:46 PM »
I don't really follow the media, but wasn't there a bit of a hoo-ha over Gomez after Sterling went for him?  Who came off worst from that in the coverage?
Not really. If I recall, the criticism of Gomez was driven by England fans, fuelled by Sterling being a bit of a bellend on social media and not accepting responsibility. Gomez has been praised a fair bit recently because his performances have been consistently brilliant over the last few months.

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« Reply #1349 on: February 11, 2020, 04:38:54 PM »
Not really. If I recall, the criticism of Gomez was driven by England fans, fuelled by Sterling being a bit of a bellend on social media and not accepting responsibility. Gomez has been praised a fair bit recently because his performances have been consistently brilliant over the last few months.

Based on what you're saying it sounds like they would have loved to have gone for Joe if they could have, but his excellent form has precluded it.
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« Reply #1350 on: February 11, 2020, 04:46:11 PM »
Still makes me laugh that his "best" moment for England was in the World Cup, in injury time in last 16 match, a genuinely excellent looking save, at full stretch away to his left, both feet off the ground, to tip the ball over.

...the only problem being that on the replay it was obvious the ball was going wide.

...and then Colombia equalised from the resulting corner!

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1351 on: February 11, 2020, 04:51:14 PM »
He outwanked himself. ;D



Come on man! I used the myth joke earlier. Lol.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1352 on: February 11, 2020, 05:08:08 PM »
It's beyond me how he is in England's squad, let alone the starter. Henderson, Pope and Foster are all miles better than him. Heaton too, were he not injured.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1353 on: February 11, 2020, 05:20:57 PM »
Nevermind Dean Henderson, Jordan Henderson is probably better, too.

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1354 on: February 11, 2020, 05:31:22 PM »
The main defence I hear for him is that "he's never let England down", even though if his form continues he blatantly will let them down at the Euro's.

I suppose Germany had a similar situation whereby they refused to drop Neuer even though Ter Stegen is clearly better now.

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« Reply #1355 on: February 11, 2020, 06:03:37 PM »
Dont know how to embed as I’m as good at IT as Pickford is at being a goalie but....

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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1356 on: February 11, 2020, 06:42:55 PM »

Come on man! I used the myth joke earlier. Lol.

Okay, okay. Underwanked then :D
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1357 on: February 11, 2020, 10:44:53 PM »
Jordan Pickshite could be a disaster for England at Euro 2020.   Imagine England playing Belgium and Divock comes on as a late sub to win the game.   Jordan will shit himself and turn to water.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1358 on: February 12, 2020, 12:46:58 PM »
He often looks like a kid with ADHD flapping around, being hyperactive, doing stupid shit. Like saving shots that go a yard wide or more, accidentally jumping behind the goal line to make a save (my personal favourite!) or just needlessly punting a ball somewhere out of play because he REALLY wanted to kick it hard. He might be 25, but often acts as if he is barely a teenager. His weird thing with opposition supporters too, pulling faces and so on - what is he doing? I genuinely think he has problems to concentrate. Maybe meditation would be something good for him.
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Re: The Jordan Pickford appreciation thread
« Reply #1359 on: February 12, 2020, 01:45:57 PM »
I'm just disappointed Man Utd didn't end up buying him

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