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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5800 on: February 14, 2019, 02:34:44 PM »
When's the TV dates for the fixtures for April/May announced? I can see every single one of ours moving.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5801 on: February 14, 2019, 02:47:51 PM »
For comparison, in the run in for 13/14 our only non-Sunday game from April onwards was the Palace match which was switched to the Monday. That comparative week this season (04th May against Newcastle) there's CL semis, so we wouldn't get moved to a Mon if we're still in it when they pick the fixtures I'd guess.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5802 on: February 14, 2019, 02:53:18 PM »
Don't be nervous, like I said, let's treat this as a free pass and enjoy the ride. I know it's hard to stop being nervous about the title challenge but the CL is just a bonus so we need to be relaxed.

I personally wouldn't bring Lovren into the side for Bayern - He didn't travel with the squad so it will be difficult for him to jump straight into a tough match having not played with Matip for a long time (last season perhaps) and he won't be able to train much with him either.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5803 on: February 15, 2019, 12:41:02 AM »


We also have Mr.Dependable Wijnaldum
Doubt we would want Gini in defence though! Hope he can recover as we will need him in midfield.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5804 on: February 15, 2019, 03:24:21 AM »
I've looked at prediction models on different sites and I actually think that this site has it quite close. They project that we will end up on par with points and City will edge us on goal difference. Of course, this is based on probabilities of winning games and doesn't account for fuckups.

https://www.euroclubindex.com/league-odds/

Edit: The reason we end up on par with City is our lower power coefficient (ECI), which gives us lower chance of winning games. But this model doesn't correctly account for the increase of our ECI has been rising, whereas City's has been steady.

They're giving us a 30% chance in the Utd game and have Utd as favourites, where as the bookies have it reversed. 
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5805 on: February 15, 2019, 07:52:20 AM »
They're giving us a 30% chance in the Utd game and have Utd as favourites, where as the bookies have it reversed. 

Probably going by our record at Old Trafford in the past 5, 10, or even 15 years. Let's be honest here, our record there is less than great.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5806 on: February 15, 2019, 07:53:33 AM »
Probably going by our record at Old Trafford in the past 5, 10, or even 15 years. Let's be honest here, our record there is less than great.
The 2 exceptions have been when we’ve been in a title race though  ;)
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5807 on: February 15, 2019, 08:11:42 AM »
The 2 exceptions have been when we’ve been in a title race though  ;)

True. And there are also the Danny Murphy golden years.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5808 on: February 15, 2019, 09:27:30 AM »
They're giving us a 30% chance in the Utd game and have Utd as favourites, where as the bookies have it reversed. 
So we "edge" it then..
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5809 on: February 15, 2019, 01:15:28 PM »
Hope Martial is out and Sanchez starts for United, it basically means one man less for them.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5810 on: February 15, 2019, 01:30:42 PM »
They're giving us a 30% chance in the Utd game and have Utd as favourites, where as the bookies have it reversed.

538 have us at 53% and United at 23%.
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Re: Chasing the Title
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5813 on: February 15, 2019, 02:55:07 PM »
I wish them a speedy recovery but...
This is really not bad news for us.

It does cripple their counter attacking capabilities.
It may probably be Rashford and Sanchez now.
While Rashford may get his nose in front, Sanchez doesn't look like he can finish his porridge - let alone suddenly interrupt his cruise to shine against the meanest defence around.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5814 on: February 15, 2019, 02:56:57 PM »
I wish them a speedy recovery but...
This is really not bad news for us.

It does cripple their counter attacking capabilities.
It may probably be Rashford and Sanchez now.
While Rashford may get his nose in front, Sanchez doesn't look like he can finish his porridge - let alone suddenly interrupt his cruise to shine against the meanest defence around.
You forget Lukaku, who is not as bad as people make out. He is still a bully who can own many central defenders around the league on his day.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5815 on: February 15, 2019, 03:02:29 PM »
You forget Lukaku, who is not as bad as people make out. He is still a bully who can own many central defenders around the league on his day.

You're right, he's worse.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5816 on: February 15, 2019, 03:02:55 PM »
You forget Lukaku, who is not as bad as people make out. He is still a bully who can own many central defenders around the league on his day.

Not forgetting him at all, but I don't think he is as crucial to making their counters work as Lingard, Rashford and Martial are.
And counters are their biggest threat. So it's definitely not bad news for us this. We'll still have to be extremely cool and precise, we'll still have to be very sharp to beat De Gea and we'll still have to go through loud and wild opening half hour - but it was always coming.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5817 on: February 15, 2019, 03:30:17 PM »
Not forgetting him at all, but I don't think he is as crucial to making their counters work as Lingard, Rashford and Martial are.
And counters are their biggest threat. So it's definitely not bad news for us this. We'll still have to be extremely cool and precise, we'll still have to be very sharp to beat De Gea and we'll still have to go through loud and wild opening half hour - but it was always coming.

Precisely. Their biggest asset is pace on the break. Rashford obviously still plays but it limits them what they do in their other two positions. Contain Rashford and contain Lukaku who is far from what he's been in the past and their attacking threat is virtually non existent.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5818 on: February 15, 2019, 03:44:52 PM »
Martial and Lingard especially being out for our game is a massive boost.

Miraculous recoveries aside, should give us a real opportunity to go there and get all three points as it nullifies alot of their attacking strength
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5819 on: February 15, 2019, 03:50:23 PM »
Remember how under Ferguson he’d always say big players were doubtful or wouldn’t be fit in time and would get in a huff when quizzed about it. Then miraculously they’d be named in the starting line up.

Let’s just wait and see! Good news if true though.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5820 on: February 15, 2019, 05:17:21 PM »
Remember how under Ferguson he’d always say big players were doubtful or wouldn’t be fit in time and would get in a huff when quizzed about it. Then miraculously they’d be named in the starting line up.



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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5821 on: February 15, 2019, 05:17:25 PM »
You forget Lukaku, who is not as bad as people make out. He is still a bully who can own many central defenders around the league on his day.

He’s absolutely terrible I think you meant to say.

I haven’t seen him bully or own any defenders for ages.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5822 on: February 15, 2019, 05:42:09 PM »
Doubt we would want Gini in defence though! Hope he can recover as we will need him in midfield.


He's a good option though,in a worse case scenario obviously.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5823 on: February 16, 2019, 12:45:31 PM »
was thinking that myself
we shouldn't trust the fecker given that fergie is giving him some advices

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5824 on: February 16, 2019, 01:13:54 PM »
Really can't wait to play this lot. Hostile atmosphere wound up opposition makes  for a cracker.  Hope we are on our toes nice and incisive and we will do them big pitch to play on hopefully space for mo and sadio and robbo on the left
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5825 on: February 16, 2019, 06:20:31 PM »
I'm enjoying being in a title race a lot more now compared to even a month ago. The nerves are still there, of course: golly, they're still there, not just jangling but playing full-on hardcore death metal. However, through taking a step back, and concentrating on my breathing, I've actually learned to enjoy the noise.

"How?", I hear you bark. Well, here are some of the many reasons to be cheerful:

1. It's actually brilliant to be challenging for the league. How many times have we been completely out of the race by mid-February?
2. We've got Mo Salah
3. We're second favourites for the league anyway, so there's no pressure
4. We've got Sadio Mané
5. We will beat last season's points total and finish less than 24 points behind the champions: any way you look at it, that's progress (I've always thought that the only barometer we need is ourselves.)
6. We've got Virgil
7. We play such exciting football
8. We've got Alisson Becker in goal, and he plays guitar
9. Our manager is a great dancer
10. Andy Robertson
11. We support Liverpool. Imagine supporting anyone else? :o
12. We've got Bobby Firmino
13. Our injured players are coming back, most notably Gomez, Chamberlain, and Lovren. That's £100m+ of talent, right?
14. Gini Wijnaldum is a Red
15. We haven't had such a good defence for years, perhaps ever (if they could stay fit).
16. Fabinho plays for us
17. Our team spirit seems to be fantastic
18. Naby Keita has just started playing well
19. Jurgen Klopp knows how to win number 19, cos he's wunderbar.

I hope you've all started to enjoy it as much as I have, or if not, I hope you can join us and learn to enjoy it.

Also, if you're lucky enough to be able to attend matches, please cheer on the boys like a gin-soaked mother on Sports Day.

Up the Reds!!

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5826 on: February 17, 2019, 06:48:09 AM »
I'm enjoying being in a title race a lot more now compared to even a month ago. The nerves are still there, of course: golly, they're still there, not just jangling but playing full-on hardcore death metal. However, through taking a step back, and concentrating on my breathing, I've actually learned to enjoy the noise.

"How?", I hear you bark. Well, here are some of the many reasons to be cheerful:

1. It's actually brilliant to be challenging for the league. How many times have we been completely out of the race by mid-February?
2. We've got Mo Salah
3. We're second favourites for the league anyway, so there's no pressure
4. We've got Sadio Mané
5. We will beat last season's points total and finish less than 24 points behind the champions: any way you look at it, that's progress (I've always thought that the only barometer we need is ourselves.)
6. We've got Virgil
7. We play such exciting football
8. We've got Alisson Becker in goal, and he plays guitar
9. Our manager is a great dancer
10. Andy Robertson
11. We support Liverpool. Imagine supporting anyone else? :o
12. We've got Bobby Firmino
13. Our injured players are coming back, most notably Gomez, Chamberlain, and Lovren. That's £100m+ of talent, right?
14. Gini Wijnaldum is a Red
15. We haven't had such a good defence for years, perhaps ever (if they could stay fit).
16. Fabinho plays for us
17. Our team spirit seems to be fantastic
18. Naby Keita has just started playing well
19. Jurgen Klopp knows how to win number 19, cos he's wunderbar.

I hope you've all started to enjoy it as much as I have, or if not, I hope you can join us and learn to enjoy it.

Also, if you're lucky enough to be able to attend matches, please cheer on the boys like a gin-soaked mother on Sports Day.

Up the Reds!!

20. We're still in the Champions League..

Naturally given how well we've played in the league this season it hasn't been the focus for most fans, but we almost won it last year and this team is considerably better than last year's team.  Who can stop us?  Favourites Man City who are hopeless in this competition?  This Barcelona?  Old Man Juventus?  I don't think so. 
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5827 on: February 17, 2019, 10:28:42 AM »
Big week coming up which will possibly define who the league and CL pan out.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5828 on: February 17, 2019, 11:15:06 AM »
When is the FA Cup 6th round in relation to when we play Watford? Team like that, nothing really to play for in the League will hopefully be fully focussed on the Cup.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5829 on: February 17, 2019, 11:27:56 AM »
When is the FA Cup 6th round in relation to when we play Watford? Team like that, nothing really to play for in the League will hopefully be fully focussed on the Cup.

6th round is weekend of 23rd March I think? So nowhere near it

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« Reply #5830 on: February 17, 2019, 12:33:19 PM »
6th round is weekend of 23rd March I think? So nowhere near it

16th of March, which means Man Utd v Man City will need to be rescheduled, hopefully to a some how less convenient time for Man City.
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« Reply #5831 on: February 17, 2019, 12:38:25 PM »
16th of March, which means Man Utd v Man City will need to be rescheduled, hopefully to a some how less convenient time for Man City.

I read somewhere this morning that the Manchester Derby could be put in two days after City playing Spurs. Either way they are likely to drop points somewhere as the volume of games increases.
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« Reply #5832 on: February 17, 2019, 12:57:05 PM »
I read somewhere this morning that the Manchester Derby could be put in two days after City playing Spurs. Either way they are likely to drop points somewhere as the volume of games increases.

There seems to be a gap around the 3rd/4th of April for a mid week league game, sandwiched between Fulham away and a possible FA Cup game.  Hardly taxing.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5833 on: February 17, 2019, 01:11:33 PM »
He’s absolutely terrible I think you meant to say.

I haven’t seen him bully or own any defenders for ages.

I heard he stole Phil Jones lunch money.

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« Reply #5834 on: February 17, 2019, 01:54:37 PM »
He’s absolutely terrible I think you meant to say.

I haven’t seen him bully or own any defenders for ages.

To be fair he smashed Arsenal about a fortnight ago, two good assists from the wing.
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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5835 on: February 17, 2019, 02:09:15 PM »
I'm enjoying being in a title race a lot more now compared to even a month ago. The nerves are still there, of course: golly, they're still there, not just jangling but playing full-on hardcore death metal. However, through taking a step back, and concentrating on my breathing, I've actually learned to enjoy the noise.

"How?", I hear you bark. Well, here are some of the many reasons to be cheerful:

1. It's actually brilliant to be challenging for the league. How many times have we been completely out of the race by mid-February?
2. We've got Mo Salah
3. We're second favourites for the league anyway, so there's no pressure
4. We've got Sadio Mané
5. We will beat last season's points total and finish less than 24 points behind the champions: any way you look at it, that's progress (I've always thought that the only barometer we need is ourselves.)
6. We've got Virgil
7. We play such exciting football
8. We've got Alisson Becker in goal, and he plays guitar
9. Our manager is a great dancer
10. Andy Robertson
11. We support Liverpool. Imagine supporting anyone else? :o
12. We've got Bobby Firmino
13. Our injured players are coming back, most notably Gomez, Chamberlain, and Lovren. That's £100m+ of talent, right?
14. Gini Wijnaldum is a Red
15. We haven't had such a good defence for years, perhaps ever (if they could stay fit).
16. Fabinho plays for us
17. Our team spirit seems to be fantastic
18. Naby Keita has just started playing well
19. Jurgen Klopp knows how to win number 19, cos he's wunderbar.

I hope you've all started to enjoy it as much as I have, or if not, I hope you can join us and learn to enjoy it.

Also, if you're lucky enough to be able to attend matches, please cheer on the boys like a gin-soaked mother on Sports Day.

Up the Reds!!


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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5836 on: February 17, 2019, 02:42:59 PM »
To be fair he smashed Arsenal about a fortnight ago, two good assists from the wing.

The key word being Arsenal.

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Re: Chasing the Title
« Reply #5837 on: February 17, 2019, 04:59:17 PM »
Lingard and Martial out for 2-3 weeks .

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11638124/anthony-martial-and-jesse-lingard-out-for-two-three-weeks-says-ole-gunnar-solskjaer

Not convinced that this is genuine at all. Reckon this is United trying to get some early mind games in.

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« Reply #5838 on: February 17, 2019, 05:01:55 PM »
Not convinced that this is genuine at all. Reckon this is United trying to get some early mind games in.

With Mr Ferguson in charge it's very possible.
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« Reply #5839 on: February 17, 2019, 05:03:29 PM »
With Mr Ferguson in charge it's very possible.

Think he’s learned a bit from the Ferguson years. Will no doubt make a miraculous recovery in the days before the game.