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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4440 on: February 4, 2019, 07:19:45 AM »
But we didn't lose to Leicester.  The only team we've lost to all season is City. 

This is what happens when you start believing the media shite.  Agendas that are brainwashing the fanbase into believing this is an impossible task.

Those words from Jurgen way back in October 2015, that we needed to take the heavy backpack off that has been holding us back for so long.  That we needed to become believers before we can succeed, that to remain doubters is taking the cowards away out, (ok he didn't say that but it's how it feels).

It's too fucking easy to think we won't be successful, that we cant win, it takes no effort whatsoever to give up without a fight or with a whimper.

That's what everyone else is telling us
and some of you have decided to go along with it.

Well I'm with Jurgen every day of the fucking week.

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I'm the same. Football is an escape from the genuine stresses of life for me. It should be about the enjoyment of watching / supporting your team through good times and bad, not something that becomes all-consuming and a massive stress in itself. Look at the Everton fanbase to see what kind of life that leads to.

It pays to keep some perspective, I think. Of course, I want us to win the title as much as anyone else, but I won't be agonising over it before and after every game until the end of the season. I won't do that to myself. I have no control over any of it. All I can control is my reaction to it all. I choose to enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. I'll leave the worry to the managers and players who get paid handsomely to shoulder that kind of stress.

These days it seems life is all about the destination rather than the journey. Personally, I want to enjoy the journey too, along with all its twists and turns. I hope we get there, I really do, but I'm not going to stress myself out until summer over things I have no influence over whatsoever.
I feel the same meself mate. I told my mates the other day I`m booking a week off work at the end of the season and going on the piss because win or lose the league, it`s been a great season.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4441 on: February 4, 2019, 07:22:54 AM »
It has been a great season and we all need to remember no one in the media was giving any team a chance against City at the start of the season, its an indication of how far we've developed this year.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4442 on: February 4, 2019, 07:30:02 AM »
I don't care if we win or lose the title. We need to show a fight that will make even City shudder. We need to make them earn that title if they win it. We need to be angry now, very angry in terms of the play and increase our level.
Would help if we get some defenders back.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4443 on: February 4, 2019, 07:39:28 AM »
Thing is lets be honest, we have been pretty shite for most of those 30 years. We never had a side capable of wining the leavue.

Same boat. All my life we've come up short, just enjoy it. If we win, boss, If we lose, have a moan. Whatever we do effects fuck all, just enjoy it which either you want.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4444 on: February 4, 2019, 07:50:28 AM »
It has been a great season and we all need to remember no one in the media was giving any team a chance against City at the start of the season, its an indication of how far we've developed this year.
This is not true, everyone thought we'd be battling it out with City and quite a few backed us to win it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/aug/10/liverpool-premier-league-manchester-city

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45088530

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-predictions-who-will-win-top-four-relegated-champions-league-man-untied-arsenal-a8486176.html

Obviously City were the most picked team, but they did win the league at a canter last season.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4445 on: February 4, 2019, 07:55:27 AM »
This is not true, everyone thought we'd be battling it out with City and quite a few backed us to win it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/aug/10/liverpool-premier-league-manchester-city

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45088530

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-predictions-who-will-win-top-four-relegated-champions-league-man-untied-arsenal-a8486176.html

Obviously City were the most picked team, but they did win the league at a canter last season.

A few granted, but most expected City to move up a level overall. I rememeber earlier than that someone proposing us challenging and it was met with laughter at the idea.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4446 on: February 4, 2019, 07:58:16 AM »
This is not true, everyone thought we'd be battling it out with City and quite a few backed us to win it.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45088530



Mental looking at the league table from last season, we've swung 30 points.  :o

Also Ian Wright has a crush on us.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4447 on: February 4, 2019, 07:58:57 AM »
Mental looking at the league table from last season, we've swung 30 points.  :o

Also Ian Wright has a crush on us.

Ian Wright has always liked us.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4448 on: February 4, 2019, 08:00:47 AM »
A few granted, but most expected City to move up a level overall. I rememeber earlier than that someone proposing us challenging and it was met with laughter at the idea.
I don't really remember any of that to be honest. It's fine, obviously City were heavily backed, I'm just allergic to "the media has it in for us" throw away comments.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4449 on: February 4, 2019, 08:03:10 AM »
The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

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They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4450 on: February 4, 2019, 08:18:53 AM »
Would be nice for us to keep that 5 point gap for most of the season.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4451 on: February 4, 2019, 08:19:32 AM »
Same boat. All my life we've come up short, just enjoy it. If we win, boss, If we lose, have a moan. Whatever we do effects fuck all, just enjoy it which either you want.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4452 on: February 4, 2019, 08:20:06 AM »
The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

Imperious, unstoppable, frightening, score for fun.

They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.



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This time next week, we could be 7 points clear and City’s exhaustion will be the game changer again.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4453 on: February 4, 2019, 08:22:00 AM »
Would be nice for us to keep that 5 point gap for most of the season.

Hopefully we can until Wednesday at least.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4454 on: February 4, 2019, 08:33:48 AM »
The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

Imperious, unstoppable, frightening, score for fun.

They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.



But that was the match before last and can be totally disregarded... well I guess that’s what is meant to happen. It’s all pretty much nonsense.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4455 on: February 4, 2019, 08:34:13 AM »
Would be nice for us to keep that 5 point gap for most of the season.

I think it's vitally important that we still have the 5 point gap when they play Chelsea on Sunday. If we don't I fear momentum will swing back in their favour cos after this week they've got a pretty nice run in.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4456 on: February 4, 2019, 08:34:20 AM »
to think- we have a game in hand over City AND STILL we're top! ;D
What a great season we're having!
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4457 on: February 4, 2019, 08:36:20 AM »
The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

Imperious, unstoppable, frightening, score for fun.

They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4458 on: February 4, 2019, 08:37:58 AM »
Just turned SSN on and immediately turned it off. Presenter was talking about todays footy and how Leicester had dented our title challenge!!! We went from 4 to 5 pts clear, how the fuck is that denting it? City winning and then us drawing is a dent, not them losing and is getting a point in difficult conditions.
Hmmm... wonder what they call City losing to Leicester then- AND City losing the day before while we gained a point the next day?
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4459 on: February 4, 2019, 08:38:48 AM »
I think it's vitally important that we still have the 5 point gap when they play Chelsea on Sunday. If we don't I fear momentum will swing back in their favour cos after this week they've got a pretty nice run in.


As City found out to their cost at Newcastle away, there are no easy games in the second half of the season.

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« Reply #4460 on: February 4, 2019, 08:56:43 AM »
I think sometimes a little bit perspective is needed. Liverpool FC are not the favourites to win this league. The clear favourites are Manchester City, champions last season with a record points tally and coached by one of the best managers in the game, if not the best. They have the experience of three title wins in the last 7 years, came second twice in that span and won four domestic cups as well. They have a proven track record of getting over the line when it matters. They have a great mix of experienced players and young skillful players.

Liverpool FC has not challenged for the league in five years and when they did those five years ago, it was more the case of a perfect storm than gradual development of a team over years. Under new manager Jürgen Klopp, Liverpool have gradually improved, but have yet to show that they are a team which can win the biggest prizes. So far, Liverpool have finished 8th, 4th and again 4th in the League, while reaching one domestic cup final (lost on penalties against ManCity) and two European Cup Finals (both lost 3-1 against Spanish serial winners Sevilla FC and Real Madrid CF). While we undoubtedly have a really exciting mix of young, aspiring players, we do not have the trophy-winning experience in our ranks that ManCity possesses.

The clear favourite for the league is Manchester City. Don't let that 2 or 5-point-gap fool you, we are facing an uphill battle and have been battling it incredibly well all season. Our points-per-game average is a staggering 2.54. We have one single loss in the league all season, coming in the toughest away match possible at ManCity. Both teams are going to drop points until the end of the season. We have six games against top half opposition left this season (4 at home). ManCity have four games against top half opposition left (2 at home). This could well be enough for them to make up the gap. So keep yourself strapped-in, because this is going to the wire and we will have to use that points-gap.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4461 on: February 4, 2019, 08:57:47 AM »
Our supporters have developed a most unfortunate mindset- wanting to chase the league instead of leading it... *smh*

They're happy and content when we're 2nd or 3rd and full of gusto.... but when we're leading, they see failure and loss around every corner. Little do they know- they contribute to the nervousness.

Me- I keep my eyes on the prize and look forward to every match- whether we're out of form or it's a banana-skin or a top team next, 'cause that's what Football/Life is about. Enjoying where your are CURRENTLY- not tomorrow or yesterday. As Dale Carnegie once said: "The load of Yesterday, added to that of Tomorrow- carried Today, makes the strongest stumble."
"My head doesn't work that way". Well yeah- you think it is easy?
I also have my doubts- the only thing is that since I was a very young lad, I learned the principle of "togetherness", cause-and-effect so I know my actions affect those who hear/see me. That's why I shift my focus and "forget" about the negatives and the potential negatives insofar as it's harmless. Usually- that's the "I say what I feel" types who can only focus on satisfying their immediate need to vent.
Simple maths- I refrain from infecting others with doubts and negativity by withholding mine("subtraction" from the total) and not posting it. I try to keep the saying in mind: If you can't say something worthwhile, it's better to stay quiet.

When we were chasing City- most had no fear and only looked ahead ie: forward because there was something to focus on, BUT as soon as we took the lead, they started fretting about losing because now they had the luxury of taking their eyes OFF what's in front of them- The League and looking back- squarely putting it on City(and now Spurs).
That is our problem.. we're so used to the top-4 mindset that we can only look behind us ie: backwards- when we're ahead.

There is no desire to look forward. That is what our league-winning sides had going for them- looking towards the League title- not at whoever is front of them and that's why when they lead- they had an ever present goal AHEAD of them. Keep your eyes on the League and enjoy the journey.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4462 on: February 4, 2019, 09:14:22 AM »
Some advice for people who can't handle the race:

We gained a point on City in the previous match day. Even if City gain a point or two against us on a match-day, that's not the be-all and end-all because you're looking at one match day only. If you look at a two match context it could be like this:

Week 1: City reduce gap by 2 points
Week 2: Liverpool win and City lose
Total affect after 2 weeks: Liverpool increase gap by 1 point = 6 point lead.

So, no fret. You got to look at the bigger picture. Sometimes that gap is going to get smaller before it grows again... just look at how Spurs are now down to 7 and sometimes it goes back to 9. There's no reason to panic either way. I'd even be optimistic if it was City who had a 4 point lead on us, cos there's a long way to go.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4463 on: February 4, 2019, 09:18:15 AM »
I think sometimes a little bit perspective is needed. Liverpool FC are not the favourites to win this league. The clear favourites are Manchester City, champions last season with a record points tally and coached by one of the best managers in the game, if not the best.

Sorry but I do not think that is true right now.

We are the favourites because we are ahead and we are rightfully leading the pack this season. Whether that's 2 points or 5 points by the end of the night.
We have proven to be worthy of our place at the top of the pack and I think it's dis-respectful to our lads to say that we aren't the best team in the league and favourites to win it right now....

None of what you said is not true don't  get me wrong. City ARE fantastic. So is their coach. They have experience in winning the league and have an aura about them it seems some cannot look past to see their frailties......you don't lose to Palace, Leicester, Chelsea and Newcastle without having weaknesses.

At the beginning of the season or in October or November, I would absolutely agree with you. But with 14 games left and having been in this season long enough to still be at the top of the pack I don't think we have to be scared to say we are the best in the league and are best-placed to win it given our showings THIS season.

If we fail we fail but we take it on the chin knowing that for a good part of the season we were the best and we were looking most likely to go on and win it like we are now.


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« Reply #4464 on: February 4, 2019, 09:44:58 AM »
Nobody wants to be top of the league for a fair chunk of the season and then see their team wither away, or hard done by through injuries and lousy referees.  To be nervous is to be human.  Personally, I'm very human right now.

And I'll be gutted if we miss out, regardless of whether it's been a great season or not.  Too many want us to fail, and too many will gleefully scream "losers!" at us if we come up short.  I've had enough of that bullshit, and I bet Klopp has too. 

I agree with Carra-ton - we need to be angry now.  I want to see the league shit itself all over again in this final third of the season.  I want fresh silverware in our trophy room.  We're not up against a rival; we're not even up against a football club.  We're up against a gang of despicable, self entitled tossers who the entire media has quickly fallen in line behind to crown as their new darlings.  I want to make them all suffer and cry their little hearts out as we lift that fucking title.

Second just isn't an option for me this season.  I'm going to spend the next four months sick with nerves.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4465 on: February 4, 2019, 10:02:50 AM »
Nobody wants to be top of the league for a fair chunk of the season and then see their team wither away, or hard done by through injuries and lousy referees.  To be nervous is to be human.  Personally, I'm very human right now.

And I'll be gutted if we miss out, regardless of whether it's been a great season or not.  Too many want us to fail, and too many will gleefully scream "losers!" at us if we come up short.  I've had enough of that bullshit, and I bet Klopp has too. 

I agree with Carra-ton - we need to be angry now.  I want to see the league shit itself all over again in this final third of the season.  I want fresh silverware in our trophy room.  We're not up against a rival; we're not even up against a football club.  We're up against a gang of despicable, self entitled tossers who the entire media has quickly fallen in line behind to crown as their new darlings.  I want to make them all suffer and cry their little hearts out as we lift that fucking title.

Second just isn't an option for me this season.  I'm going to spend the next four months sick with nerves.
That is no problem at all. Really it isn't. We're human. I'm also going to be nervy- I'm just going to keep myself composed and feel nervy- privately and mention it here and there.


The issue comes in when- and I'm not saying you do this- it is screamed from the proverbial rooftops everytime someone in this predicament posts or phones, staunchly defended(since emotions are involved) and this gets worse when there's a hiccup. Bad emotions rot. That's what they do; and "rot" isn't good, cause it spreads.
It really has a bad effect, cause this "brings everyone else down" and pretty soon some are arguing over nothing- opposites are attracted to each other and it's just bad.
Yes we're human, but some have no concept of, or interest in the effect this has outside of themselves. They think it's just "an opinion"- like they exist in a vacuum.
It just does not do anyone any good- except the person who can release some pressure.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4466 on: February 4, 2019, 10:11:10 AM »
I think it's vitally important that we still have the 5 point gap when they play Chelsea on Sunday. If we don't I fear momentum will swing back in their favour cos after this week they've got a pretty nice run in.

If they get to the semis of the FA Cup and CL, they could have 9 games in April

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« Reply #4467 on: February 4, 2019, 10:20:34 AM »
It is Feb 3rd, we've got 14 games left. Certainly not the time to be worrying about winning the title or not.

This is pretty much what everyone should be telling themselves.

The people who are stressing about a draw at Leicester need to calm down. There's more than a third of the season still left to play.

The people who thought we could win the league after City got beat by Newcastle need to calm down too. There's more than a third of the season still left to play.

A draw at home to Leicester is not fatal to our title chances. Conversely a 7 point lead wouldn't have meant that the league was almost ours.

The same type of logic applies to tonight's game. A win would be good. But even a loss wouldn't rule us out of the title race.

I understand that people want this league win more than anything from a footballing perspective. I do too. But we need to remember that there's a long way to go in this season yet. There'll be twists and turns during these last 14 games. Wanting us to win the league so much may not be a great thing. Eventually that pressure and tension has got to transmit itself to the players and manager. Whether that's through people at the ground, interactions with people the players see on a day to day basis or people on social media.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4468 on: February 4, 2019, 10:45:46 AM »
I'm not sure what all this talk of man city's run-in being easy came from.

Crystal Palace
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Burnley
Leicester
Brighton

I know that if we had that type of run-in I'd be concerned. Tottenham will tough enough. But it's the other four that should concern them. They are exactly the type of teams that raise their game against the big teams regardless of their league position or even if they've been relegated.

Crystal Palace, Burnley and Brighton all away and Leicester home, throw in possible CL semi final games. If man city aren't at least 7 or 8 points clear going into their last 5 games they're going to fuck it up.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4469 on: February 4, 2019, 10:49:02 AM »
I don't get this whole "media is against us" vibe.  The media want a title race so if we drop points, even when City drop more, they want to put the pressure on.  I think the views would be the other way round if the positions were the other way round.  It's the reason they keep wanting to add Spurs to the title race.  The more teams involved, the better it is for the media.

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« Reply #4470 on: February 4, 2019, 10:59:59 AM »
You know what I'm not buying this everyone wants us to lose thing. Its more the fact that we are top and have been for a while, and its more of a story, more drama for the idea if we fall away, or City catch us. If it was us in 2nd, it would be the same. If you think back 12 months, City were running away with the league, the transfer window was shut, and you have 24 hour media coverage - what was there to talk about or hype up ?
I heard people say the referees want City to win the league too. Do people honestly believe that is the case ?  really. Every team thinks ref's have it in for them,  you hear City fans when they draw or lose moaning about refs. You hear the smaller teams say refs favour the big sides. No one talks about fortunate decisions that go their way, just the bad ones and the belief its all a big conspiracy. Whoever wins this thing will deserve to win it.

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« Reply #4471 on: February 4, 2019, 11:01:48 AM »
Our supporters have developed a most unfortunate mindset- wanting to chase the league instead of leading it... *smh*

They're happy and content when we're 2nd or 3rd and full of gusto.... but when we're leading, they see failure and loss around every corner. Little do they know- they contribute to the nervousness.

Me- I keep my eyes on the prize and look forward to every match- whether we're out of form or it's a banana-skin or a top team next, 'cause that's what Football/Life is about. Enjoying where your are CURRENTLY- not tomorrow or yesterday. As Dale Carnegie once said: "The load of Yesterday, added to that of Tomorrow- carried Today, makes the strongest stumble."
"My head doesn't work that way". Well yeah- you think it is easy?
I also have my doubts- the only thing is that since I was a very young lad, I learned the principle of "togetherness", cause-and-effect so I know my actions affect those who hear/see me. That's why I shift my focus and "forget" about the negatives and the potential negatives insofar as it's harmless. Usually- that's the "I say what I feel" types who can only focus on satisfying their immediate need to vent.
Simple maths- I refrain from infecting others with doubts and negativity by withholding mine("subtraction" from the total) and not posting it. I try to keep the saying in mind: If you can't say something worthwhile, it's better to stay quiet.

When we were chasing City- most had no fear and only looked ahead ie: forward because there was something to focus on, BUT as soon as we took the lead, they started fretting about losing because now they had the luxury of taking their eyes OFF what's in front of them- The League and looking back- squarely putting it on City(and now Spurs).
That is our problem.. we're so used to the top-4 mindset that we can only look behind us ie: backwards- when we're ahead.

There is no desire to look forward. That is what our league-winning sides had going for them- looking towards the League title- not at whoever is front of them and that's why when they lead- they had an ever present goal AHEAD of them. Keep your eyes on the League and enjoy the journey.

Worry about tomorrow and you will miss out on today's ride. Live for the moment.
I know- easier said than done but really is one game at time. Just enjoy the games regardless of the result since it is only February.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4472 on: February 4, 2019, 11:07:42 AM »
If they get to the semis of the FA Cup and CL, they could have 9 games in April

Could be important but they have the squad to cope with it. Last night they had Sane, Mahrez, Jesus, Stones and Danilo on the bench.

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« Reply #4473 on: February 4, 2019, 11:14:58 AM »
Could be important but they have the squad to cope with it. Last night they had Sane, Mahrez, Jesus, Stones and Danilo on the bench.

Which one of them is replacing Fernandinho who seems to be their most important player? He's 33 and basically played two positions yesterday. I hope he plays 90 minutes at Goodison on Wednesday and then again against Chelsea on Sunday. Chelsea could definitely cause him problems off the back of three fairly intense games in a week.

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« Reply #4474 on: February 4, 2019, 11:16:43 AM »
Could be important but they have the squad to cope with it. Last night they had Sane, Mahrez, Jesus, Stones and Danilo on the bench.

If they have 9 games in April then they wont win all their league games. They have lost 4 and we have just left January. Clearly their squad can only cope to a point.

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« Reply #4475 on: February 4, 2019, 11:16:52 AM »
Which one of them is replacing Fernandinho who seems to be their most important player? He's 33 and basically played two positions yesterday. I hope he plays 90 minutes at Goodison on Wednesday and then again against Chelsea on Sunday. Chelsea could definitely cause him problems off the back of three fairly intense games in a week.

Agree with all of that. Hes probably the one player they'd sturggle to replace but we also have a number of irreplaceable players who've played alot of football for us this season and still have a lot of football to come.

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« Reply #4476 on: February 4, 2019, 11:17:55 AM »
I'm not sure what all this talk of man city's run-in being easy came from.

Crystal Palace
Tottenham
Burnley
Leicester
Brighton

I know that if we had that type of run-in I'd be concerned. Tottenham will tough enough. But it's the other four that should concern them. They are exactly the type of teams that raise their game against the big teams regardless of their league position or even if they've been relegated.

Crystal Palace, Burnley and Brighton all away and Leicester home, throw in possible CL semi final games. If man city aren't at least 7 or 8 points clear going into their last 5 games they're going to fuck it up.


What I don't like about the league (other than the Christmas-New Year fixture schedules) is if you got to play safe mid-table clubs in the last 3 games, they are already on holiday and victory is easy. There's a few exceptions where some players raise their game for pride but its difficult for them to ask that of all 11 players, and with just 2 or 3 players relaxing, it can swing the game.

The other related big factor is if you facing the relegation candidates in the last month, those games are suddenly tremendously difficult compared to a few months back.

So, for example if they play a more difficult team like Watford and if Watford got nothing to play for then City win easy. While if we play someone like Cardiff who are normally easy, but they're now playing for their lives, a shit team throwing everything at us like Everton, and we may need a scrappy last minute goal from Origi to settle the title.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4477 on: February 4, 2019, 11:18:21 AM »
So, no fret. You got to look at the bigger picture. Sometimes that gap is going to get smaller before it grows again... just look at how Spurs are now down to 7 and sometimes it goes back to 9. There's no reason to panic either way. I'd even be optimistic if it was City who had a 4 point lead on us, cos there's a long way to go.

Isn't it amazing that it's us with the lead? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh.

Is right, my frustration about not beating Leic was simply about that single game plus the context of giving another jab to City after their loss. It was never about the points - 2 points here and there are not going to make a big difference. Will we go mad if we only draw against Utd?

Today the narrative is "City have their mojo back", after just one game? Again its just all about hyping the Prem to the max, making fans think that every game matters so they keep watching/reading/tweeting etc.

The lead will increase and decrease every game but as long as we are still net positive it's all good.

The points will be handy tonight if only to keep the babies happy.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4478 on: February 4, 2019, 11:19:58 AM »
If they have 9 games in April then they wont win all their league games. They have lost 4 and we have just left January. Clearly their squad can only cope to a point.

They'll be able to rotate heavily for Cardiff and Burnley and still win comfortably. Only tough league game is Spurs and that's at home.

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« Reply #4479 on: February 4, 2019, 11:21:28 AM »
They'll be able to rotate heavily for Cardiff and Burnley and still win comfortably. Only tough league game is Spurs and that's at home.

Nothings a given. Again, they have lost 4 games. Clearly they can be beat and you dont even need to be amazing to do so.