Topic: Chasing the Title

[slaphead]

"I expect the media to build that narrative, but it’s really frustrating to see our own fans using it too. City lost in the week and yet again we’re talking about them ‘keeping the pressure on’. Keeping. And again, fans buying that nonsense. There’s literally been posts saying if we don’t win tomorrow we won’t win the title"


Oh they will, you'll hear that word used more than any other in the next few weeks/months. Have people said that ?  Jaysus. The irony is the people saying that will be saying the team will bottle it, while they are the ones shitting themselves.

"That's a modern phenomenon that needs to die. I think it's down to the all-or-nothing type mindset of the average fan in 2019. Their attention spans don't cover the whole season, so teams are either winners or bottlers based on their last result"

It absolutely is. The last result tends to define a team/manager doesn't it. Pochettino went from the next Utd manager, to not as good a manager as Solsjkaer,to next Man Utd manager in about a week

[FlashGordon]

Not sure I've seen all the moaning that many seem to be pointing out. I certainly haven't seen much in the way of undue criticism of the manager or players.

It might just seem that way because emotions run high at the top of the league. Wins feel better, defeats feel worse. However I'm sure if you asked anyone to take a step back and assess how happy they are with the current state of the club, you'd be met with unanimously positive answers. If someone said otherwise, then you might have something to worry about.
Completely understandable. Not everyone thinks the same way, and that's something that should be welcomed.

You haven't seen the posts calling our players bottlers etc. ? Selective reading I'd say.

[jooneyisdagod]

The shithousery has already started. Apparently, if we don't win tomorrow the wheels come off the title race. With bottling c*nts like these "supporting" us, who needs enemies.

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[toe punt]

City were never going to lose or even draw many home games so it's a miracle they lost that game to Crystal Palace. My concern at this stage is we have too many draws and that kills our momentum. We had something like 12 last season if I remember and you're better off doing a Spurs in losing a few and winning the rest. Huge test tomorrow night, we really need a result and performance. Then it's beat Bournemouth and put the pressure on City before they play Chelsea (the Everton game being a gimme).

[didi shamone]

That "bottling" line is a pet hate of mine, you draw or lose a match, you bottled it. Heard Brendan Rodgers say the other day about when he was here we won 10 of our last 11 or 11 of 12 can't remember, but the belief was that we bottled it.

Bottling or non bottling is the new mind games.  Utter wank but an easy narrative.

[El Lobo]

City were never going to lose or even draw many home games so it's a miracle they lost that game to Crystal Palace. My concern at this stage is we have too many draws and that kills our momentum. We had something like 12 last season if I remember and you're better off doing a Spurs in losing a few and winning the rest. Huge test tomorrow night, we really need a result and performance. Then it's beat Bournemouth and put the pressure on City before they play Chelsea (the Everton game being a gimme).

Christ, where to start with this.

We’ve drawn four games. That’s fewer than pretty much everyone apart from City and Spurs. And those draws are why we’re top instead of where they are. What an odd statement about Spurs. They’ve won as many as us and lost the rest. Great?  That’s why we’re four clear of them with a game in hand.

[S]

You haven't seen the posts calling our players bottlers etc. ? Selective reading I'd say.

To be honest I actually haven't read much of the main forum post-Leicester. I'll take everyone's word for it though.

I'll never stop defending pessimistic users, as there's nothing wrong with that. Terms like "bottlers" though are the kind of needless criticism that simply doesn't belong on this forum. So far it's been one of our best (the best?) league campaigns of all time. Given that context nobody should be lashing out at the team, those who do are either trolls or simply don't understand how football works.

[Reese]

And the primary reason we lost to Leicester was a referring performance for the ages.

I just hope our players don't have the mentality of some of the posters on here or we are done already.

No guarantees in life, but even the worst result tomorrow still has us in front, and there is still so much to play for after that.

Buckle and get ready. Let's do this.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

WE DIDNT LOSE TO LEICESTER!!

[FlashGordon]

City were never going to lose or even draw many home games so it's a miracle they lost that game to Crystal Palace. My concern at this stage is we have too many draws and that kills our momentum. We had something like 12 last season if I remember and you're better off doing a Spurs in losing a few and winning the rest. Huge test tomorrow night, we really need a result and performance. Then it's beat Bournemouth and put the pressure on City before they play Chelsea (the Everton game being a gimme).

Yeah we're better off doing what the team 4 points and possibly 7 points behind us is doing. The kind of logic that would make you despair.

[toe punt]

Christ, where to start with this.

We’ve drawn four games. That’s fewer than pretty much everyone apart from City and Spurs. And those draws are why we’re top instead of where they are. What an odd statement about Spurs. They’ve won as many as us and lost the rest. Great?  That’s why we’re four clear of them with a game in hand.

Re. Spurs I meant of the remaining games not overall in terms of winning and losing and not drawing. If we draw at West Ham and say Old Trafford we will have less points than if we win one of those game and lose the other. That was my point. If our makeshift defence keeps conceding like it did in Jan who's to say we won't be drawing more games.

[toe punt]

Yeah we're better off doing what the team 4 points and possibly 7 points behind us is doing. The kind of logic that would make you despair.

1 win and 1 defeat is better than 2 draws. What kind of logic is that? Simple arithmetic mate.

[El Lobo]

Re. Spurs I meant of the remaining games not overall in terms of winning and losing and not drawing. If we draw at West Ham and say Old Trafford we will have less points than if we win one of those game and lose the other. That was my point. If our makeshift defence keeps conceding like it did in Jan who's to say we won't be drawing more games.

I don’t think we need a lesson on how points work 

But again, your point makes literally no sense. You’re referencing a team who are quite far behind us literally because they’re losing too many instead of drawing. Unless your point was ‘we should aim for four points instead of two because four is two more than two’ then yes, good point.

[reddebs]

And the primary reason we lost to Leicester was a referring performance for the ages.

But we didn't lose to Leicester.  The only team we've lost to all season is City. 

This is what happens when you start believing the media shite.  Agendas that are brainwashing the fanbase into believing this is an impossible task.

Those words from Jurgen way back in October 2015, that we needed to take the heavy backpack off that has been holding us back for so long.  That we needed to become believers before we can succeed, that to remain doubters is taking the cowards away out, (ok he didn't say that but it's how it feels).

It's too fucking easy to think we won't be successful, that we cant win, it takes no effort whatsoever to give up without a fight or with a whimper.

That's what everyone else is telling us
and some of you have decided to go along with it.

Well I'm with Jurgen every day of the fucking week.

Rant over!!

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[didi shamone]

WE DIDNT LOSE TO LEICESTER!!

We lost the lead .

[MH41]

I understand mate, I just can't be arsed stressing about what may or may not happen to us, football is escape to life's bullshit for me, not a place where i continuously stress about things that are out of my control

That's brilliant! Particularly, as it's totally out of our control.
 It's the way I want to be (but haven't been able to reach yet!)

[Caligula?]

We lost the lead .

Losing without losing?

[Son of Spion]

I understand mate, I just can't be arsed stressing about what may or may not happen to us, football is escape to life's bullshit for me, not a place where i continuously stress about things that are out of my control

I'm the same. Football is an escape from the genuine stresses of life for me. It should be about the enjoyment of watching / supporting your team through good times and bad, not something that becomes all-consuming and a massive stress in itself. Look at the Everton fanbase to see what kind of life that leads to.

It pays to keep some perspective, I think. Of course, I want us to win the title as much as anyone else, but I won't be agonising over it before and after every game until the end of the season. I won't do that to myself. I have no control over any of it. All I can control is my reaction to it all. I choose to enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. I'll leave the worry to the managers and players who get paid handsomely to shoulder that kind of stress.

These days it seems life is all about the destination rather than the journey. Personally, I want to enjoy the journey too, along with all its twists and turns. I hope we get there, I really do, but I'm not going to stress myself out until summer over things I have no influence over whatsoever.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

I'm the same. Football is an escape from the genuine stresses of life for me. It should be about the enjoyment of watching / supporting your team through good times and bad, not something that becomes all-consuming and a massive stress in itself. Look at the Everton fanbase to see what kind of life that leads to.

It pays to keep some perspective, I think. Of course, I want us to win the title as much as anyone else, but I won't be agonising over it before and after every game until the end of the season. I won't do that to myself. I have no control over any of it. All I can control is my reaction to it all. I choose to enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. I'll leave the worry to the managers and players who get paid handsomely to shoulder that kind of stress.

These days it seems life is all about the destination rather than the journey. Personally, I want to enjoy the journey too, along with all its twists and turns. I hope we get there, I really do, but I'm not going to stress myself out until summer over things I have no influence over whatsoever.

Well is said. Life is too short.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Nobody wants us to win this title, absolutely no one. From opposition fans to pundits, the media, and referees. We'd had better get used to it and go into every game as if it were a cup final. West Ham would love nothing more than to throw a spanner in the works tomorrow and say they derailed our season.

Not the first time everyone's against Liverpoool and won't be the last time either.

Fuck 'em all.

[kesey]

But what if we're not.

Iam sitting here trying to think of something to philosophical and deep inspirational stuff to . All I can come up with though is.

Fuck off you Shithouse !

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

Nobody wants us to win this title, absolutely no one. From opposition fans to pundits, the media, and referees. We'd had better get used to it and go into every game as if it were a cup final.

is that you Mourinho?

[latortuga]

The worst thing we can do as a fan base right now is fight amongst ourselves. 

Forget what happened against Leicester, or who said what afterwards about the performance.  Get behind the team and focus positive and supportive energy towards winning against West Ham.   

 

[woof]

This is where it pays to have a manager like Klopp. He's been there & done it before. And he's a charismatic manager. It's up to him to settle the boys down & stick to what we've been doing best for the most part of the season

[latortuga]

This is where it pays to have a manager like Klopp. He's been there & done it before. And he's a charismatic manager. It's up to him to settle the boys down & stick to what we've been doing best for the most part of the season

100%, so much harder if it was a less experienced manager trying to navigate the remaining games. 

Journalists and the media hate all the 1 game at a time stuff, but there's a very good reason for it and Klopp knows that.

[TheTeflonJohn]

But we didn't lose to Leicester.  The only team we've lost to all season is City. 

This is what happens when you start believing the media shite.  Agendas that are brainwashing the fanbase into believing this is an impossible task.

Those words from Jurgen way back in October 2015, that we needed to take the heavy backpack off that has been holding us back for so long.  That we needed to become believers before we can succeed, that to remain doubters is taking the cowards away out, (ok he didn't say that but it's how it feels).

It's too fucking easy to think we won't be successful, that we cant win, it takes no effort whatsoever to give up without a fight or with a whimper.

That's what everyone else is telling us
and some of you have decided to go along with it.

Well I'm with Jurgen every day of the fucking week.

Rant over!!

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Is right Debs

I'm the same. Football is an escape from the genuine stresses of life for me. It should be about the enjoyment of watching / supporting your team through good times and bad, not something that becomes all-consuming and a massive stress in itself. Look at the Everton fanbase to see what kind of life that leads to.

It pays to keep some perspective, I think. Of course, I want us to win the title as much as anyone else, but I won't be agonising over it before and after every game until the end of the season. I won't do that to myself. I have no control over any of it. All I can control is my reaction to it all. I choose to enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. I'll leave the worry to the managers and players who get paid handsomely to shoulder that kind of stress.

These days it seems life is all about the destination rather than the journey. Personally, I want to enjoy the journey too, along with all its twists and turns. I hope we get there, I really do, but I'm not going to stress myself out until summer over things I have no influence over whatsoever.

I feel the same meself mate. I told my mates the other day I`m booking a week off work at the end of the season and going on the piss because win or lose the league, it`s been a great season.

[jillc]

It has been a great season and we all need to remember no one in the media was giving any team a chance against City at the start of the season, its an indication of how far we've developed this year.

[Carra-ton]

I don't care if we win or lose the title. We need to show a fight that will make even City shudder. We need to make them earn that title if they win it. We need to be angry now, very angry in terms of the play and increase our level.
Would help if we get some defenders back.

[OOS]

Thing is lets be honest, we have been pretty shite for most of those 30 years. We never had a side capable of wining the leavue.

Same boat. All my life we've come up short, just enjoy it. If we win, boss, If we lose, have a moan. Whatever we do effects fuck all, just enjoy it which either you want.

[DG]

It has been a great season and we all need to remember no one in the media was giving any team a chance against City at the start of the season, its an indication of how far we've developed this year.

This is not true, everyone thought we'd be battling it out with City and quite a few backed us to win it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/aug/10/liverpool-premier-league-manchester-city

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45088530

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-predictions-who-will-win-top-four-relegated-champions-league-man-untied-arsenal-a8486176.html

Obviously City were the most picked team, but they did win the league at a canter last season.

[jillc]

This is not true, everyone thought we'd be battling it out with City and quite a few backed us to win it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/aug/10/liverpool-premier-league-manchester-city

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45088530

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-predictions-who-will-win-top-four-relegated-champions-league-man-untied-arsenal-a8486176.html

Obviously City were the most picked team, but they did win the league at a canter last season.

A few granted, but most expected City to move up a level overall. I rememeber earlier than that someone proposing us challenging and it was met with laughter at the idea.

[Kashinoda]

This is not true, everyone thought we'd be battling it out with City and quite a few backed us to win it.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45088530

Mental looking at the league table from last season, we've swung 30 points. 

Also Ian Wright has a crush on us.

[jillc]

Mental looking at the league table from last season, we've swung 30 points. 

Also Ian Wright has a crush on us.

Ian Wright has always liked us.

[DG]

A few granted, but most expected City to move up a level overall. I rememeber earlier than that someone proposing us challenging and it was met with laughter at the idea.

I don't really remember any of that to be honest. It's fine, obviously City were heavily backed, I'm just allergic to "the media has it in for us" throw away comments.

[Kashinoda]

The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

Imperious, unstoppable, frightening, score for fun.

They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.

[Zoomers]

Would be nice for us to keep that 5 point gap for most of the season.

[spider-neil]

Same boat. All my life we've come up short, just enjoy it. If we win, boss, If we lose, have a moan. Whatever we do effects fuck all, just enjoy it which either you want.

If you go to the games, how you support the team absolutely has an effect.

[JamesG L4]

The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

Imperious, unstoppable, frightening, score for fun.

They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.

A week is too long for most social media’s collective consciousness.

This time next week, we could be 7 points clear and City’s exhaustion will be the game changer again.

[jillc]

Would be nice for us to keep that 5 point gap for most of the season.

Hopefully we can until Wednesday at least.

[Andy-oh-six]

The mindset is a bit mental.

Saw an LFC fan on the BBC comment section (I know), saying that City are looking 'frightening' again. This after a Phil McNulty article which finished with 'the champions are back in the mood to fight to hold on to their crown.'

Imperious, unstoppable, frightening, score for fun.

They lost 2-1 to Newcastle less than a week ago.

But that was the match before last and can be totally disregarded... well I guess that’s what is meant to happen. It’s all pretty much nonsense.