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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4240 on: February 2, 2019, 10:09:33 AM »
I have just seen a video on Trent and he is looking very good he's back training with the ball and we can expect him back soon hopefully.
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« Reply #4241 on: February 2, 2019, 10:09:38 AM »
I’m genuinely waiting for the moment someone posts ‘well why the fuck did we sell Markovic?!  :no

We’re in a good position. The injuries to the right side of defence are annoying. City lost De Bruyne for most of the season, Mendy for most of the season, I think Ederson might be injured now? I know they’ve had other important players out. Spurs have got Kane and Alli injured, had injuries elsewhere. It happens, you battle through it. Never did I expect to see people moaning about loaning Clyne and selling Klavan, yet here we are and it’s a daily occupancy and has been for a month.

In terms of injuries, I’d say the top three are all about even so far. It’s not some mega curse, we’ve all lost important players and it’s impacted form. Yet we’re five clear, we’ve got players coming back and we’ve got fewer games than our rivals.

Just fucking relax and enjoy it. It really shouldn’t be a grind when your side is in this position. I swear some would rather snap their fingers and be in June as champions rather than actually watch us do it.

To think we mock spurs for their top four is our everything song. For many fans thats all they can take.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4242 on: February 2, 2019, 10:10:44 AM »
What about when they drew 0-0 with Chelsea earlier in the season?

Yes I know Chelsea are miles behind us now but they weren’t at the time.


Chelsea's not a challenger(and I said that the time- at the height of their form) and that's what I mean.
Agree. Chelsea's not ready to challenge. They don't have the firepower yet. They don't have anyone to consistently rely upon in Hazard's absence and he can't play +40 games in a row- at the same performance level.

They will be a nuisance for sure, but a challenger? Nope.

Should've buried them yesterday. Been a shit time since yesterday. Our front 3 should take a good look at themselves.
I dunno how people could see- apart from what was a spurt of form- that they could be a challenger?
As I said- Everton will beat a team when their not a rival for a position(4th as oppsed to 1st in this case).

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4243 on: February 2, 2019, 10:12:22 AM »
I'm aware of that what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you - but the medal has two sides and we're discussing them both, and "calculating" which side will triumph in the end.

So you're going with the side who lost to Newcastle, Crystal Palace and Leicester.

I'll take the team not winning routinely over the team losing every day of the week, I think you should too.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4244 on: February 2, 2019, 10:13:44 AM »
I'm aware of that what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you - but the medal has two sides and we're discussing them both, and "calculating" which side will triumph in the end.

There is nothing calculating in using the word bottling. Its devisive and it points to a massive flaw in the make up of a team and its players.

There is no major flaw in this team, its amazing. That might not be good enough but ultimately they would do better than teams that had Reina, Arbeloa, Johnson, Skrtel, Hyypia, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Alonso, Gerrard, Mascherano, Coutinho, Riera, Sterling, Sturridge, Suarez, Torres, Kuyt etc. Why? Because they wish they were as good as this side.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4245 on: February 2, 2019, 10:14:29 AM »
Ourselves and City have a combined total of 28 fixtures remaining

Even if you attempted to predict the results of those games on a simple a L-D-W win basis (forgetting scorelines) the most you'd probably get correct is about 20. Most of the fixtures may seem easy to call on paper, but football doesn't always go to plan. If it did, Paddy Power would be skint and his punters would be millionaires

Our next 3 fixtures are West Ham (A), Bournemouth (H) and United (A). Looking at those fixtures on paper, I would happily take 7 points from those 3 games if offered it now. It's likely that we'll beat West Ham and Bournemouth and draw away at Old Trafford. It's also not beyond the realms of possibility for us to draw at home to Bournemouth and end up smashing the Mancs a week later.

Point being, it's stupid pointing to 1 single fixture where points have been dropped and moan that it's an opportunity lost. Why torture yourself? Make no mistake about it, it's highly likely that we will drop points again this season, probably when we least expect it. We're going to clip another hurdle or 2. It's probably best for peace of mind to just accept that now. It's also likely that City will add to their tally of 4 defeats. Again, when its least expected.

Reading some of the posts in here I honestly can't help but wonder how long some of you have been watching football. Particularly title run ins where anything is likely to happen. Personally, I'm loving this now. It feels like 13/14 all over again. Waking up on weekends buzzing for kick off.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4246 on: February 2, 2019, 10:28:53 AM »
The issue we have is we had 2 opportunities to really make a points statement and haven't done it.

1) Beat City to go 10 points clear
2) Beat Leicester to go 7 points clear

We've to make sure we start taking advantage of these changes to really steam ahead if they come around again.
The City game could have gone either way. No loss of momentum there.
The Leicester game is a concern. We didn’t create enough. Given that had Kieth got his pen or Magire got a red for his forearm smash then things would  have been different
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4247 on: February 2, 2019, 10:39:22 AM »
The City game could have gone either way. No loss of momentum there.
The Leicester game is a concern. We didn’t create enough. Given that had Kieth got his pen or Magire got a red for his forearm smash then things would  have been different

Yeah but we must take maximum opportunities when they come about.


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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4248 on: February 2, 2019, 10:42:38 AM »
City will soon be racking up games in hand which will add their own pressure on them. We just need to keep getting results and putting distance between us and them
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4249 on: February 2, 2019, 11:11:14 AM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4250 on: February 2, 2019, 11:23:10 AM »
I’m genuinely waiting for the moment someone posts ‘well why the fuck did we sell Markovic?!  :no

That will be when he has his inevitable good game against us  :)

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4251 on: February 2, 2019, 11:25:08 AM »
I know some of will completely disagree ....

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4252 on: February 2, 2019, 11:30:36 AM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.

Spoiler alert - it won’t.

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« Reply #4253 on: February 2, 2019, 11:34:25 AM »
There waa 5 or 6 matches last year where City won by the score of 1-0,several of which were decided in stoppage time. Not every win of theis was routine. Not every title winning side wins every match routinely in a season consisting of 38 matches. 

Ita incredibly naive to believe that any side is going to win every match routinely.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4254 on: February 2, 2019, 11:39:09 AM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.

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« Reply #4255 on: February 2, 2019, 11:48:56 AM »
With 13 matches to go after West Ham how in the bloody hell would the league be decided on Monday considering its only a 5 point gap?


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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4256 on: February 2, 2019, 11:53:17 AM »
Yeah but we must take maximum opportunities when they come about.


Agreed. Hence the disappointment we all share after the Leicester game
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4257 on: February 2, 2019, 11:54:12 AM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4258 on: February 2, 2019, 11:58:03 AM »
We're not going to win every game from here on in, then again neither are City.

We just need to keep our nerve starting with a win v West Ham on Monday night. I'd love a good performance too, but at this stage any scruffy win will do -ticking them off now.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4259 on: February 2, 2019, 12:14:53 PM »
Lots of cry arses on here. We drew to go further ahead not fall further behind. We've scraped a fair few wins this season so we were due bad result. I do agree the performance was bad and we can't afford too many of those again. And if we go into March level on points do we just concede the title at that point? Our title challenge in 2014 only got going in February whereas this time we start the month from a position of strength.
Also, we might only have 4 points to play with assuming City win all their games and their goal difference is better but they know they're one defeat and a draw or a couple of draws from being in a difficult position.
I've felt at the beginning of the season we just need to keep within a few points of City all season until the run in and see what happens. The fact is we've outperformed that and we're now slight favourites. We just have to get back to winning.

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« Reply #4260 on: February 2, 2019, 12:15:20 PM »
Anyone talking about this team lacking bottle, based on what they've done in key fixtures has some serious memory issues, an agenda, or a lack of bottle themselves.

Middlesbrough to secure CL football. City away in the second leg of CL and Napoli to win the group this year. Three stellar examples. There are more.

We've occasionally seen complacency - Swansea Post City league win last season. Poor performances - Sevilla EL final. I don't think I can cite one example of lack of bottle though.

Just utter nonsense. It's in people's heads. Not on the pitch.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4261 on: February 2, 2019, 01:05:38 PM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.
It's far too early for title deciders.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4262 on: February 2, 2019, 01:22:23 PM »
Nobody including Spurs in this race? The only downside to the midweek results is that Tottenham's back into a reasonable distance at 7 points adrift. With their injury issues and being a goal down while we were a goal up, they seemed to be dead and buried in the race, but it turned around later and they're right back in. If Man City do fall away as we hope, and if we also stutter, then surely they'd have a sniff later? I've ruled them out many times, and they've just kept coming back. The question is how much longer can they keep up? Surely, both City and us will start dropping more points than the first half of the season, and that will make it easier for Spurs to keep up.
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« Reply #4263 on: February 2, 2019, 01:29:53 PM »
Nobody including Spurs in this race? The only downside to the midweek results is that Tottenham's back into a reasonable distance at 7 points adrift. With their injury issues and being a goal down while we were a goal up, they seemed to be dead and buried in the race, but it turned around later and they're right back in. If Man City do fall away as we hope, and if we also stutter, then surely they'd have a sniff later? I've ruled them out many times, and they've just kept coming back. The question is how much longer can they keep up? Surely, both City and us will start dropping more points than the first half of the season, and that will make it easier for Spurs to keep up.

I wouldn’t worry about Spurs, as soon as they get close to threatening they always manage to blow it somehow.

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« Reply #4264 on: February 2, 2019, 01:41:54 PM »
Nobody including Spurs in this race? The only downside to the midweek results is that Tottenham's back into a reasonable distance at 7 points adrift. With their injury issues and being a goal down while we were a goal up, they seemed to be dead and buried in the race, but it turned around later and they're right back in. If Man City do fall away as we hope, and if we also stutter, then surely they'd have a sniff later? I've ruled them out many times, and they've just kept coming back. The question is how much longer can they keep up? Surely, both City and us will start dropping more points than the first half of the season, and that will make it easier for Spurs to keep up.

Hard to include them when they've already lost 6 matches with 14 matches left to play with Ali and Kane out until March.


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« Reply #4265 on: February 2, 2019, 01:44:05 PM »
I wouldn’t worry about Spurs, as soon as they get close to threatening they always manage to blow it somehow.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4266 on: February 2, 2019, 02:25:35 PM »
Well the unflushable turd won again. Amazing gaffe by Newcastle’s keeper after 83 mins.

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« Reply #4267 on: February 2, 2019, 02:27:04 PM »
Their upcoming fixtures

Leicester [H]
Burnley [A]
Chelsea [A]
Arsenal [H]
Soton [A]
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« Reply #4268 on: February 2, 2019, 02:33:03 PM »
Their upcoming fixtures

Leicester [H]
Burnley [A]
Chelsea [A]
Arsenal [H]
Soton [A]
Palace [H]
Liverpool[A]

They will drop point there for sure - but it’s annoying they are hanging around.

In any case we must get back to winning on Monday.

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« Reply #4269 on: February 2, 2019, 02:58:00 PM »
Their upcoming fixtures

Leicester [H]
Burnley [A]
Chelsea [A]
Arsenal [H]
Soton [A]
Palace [H]
Liverpool[A]

With the combination of the poor way they play in right now and the luck they have, everything between 5-21 points is possible. I can't believe how the hell they've won every damn game since the United loss in the manner they've done. Can't stand them  :no

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« Reply #4270 on: February 2, 2019, 03:06:57 PM »
Nobody including Spurs in this race? The only downside to the midweek results is that Tottenham's back into a reasonable distance at 7 points adrift. With their injury issues and being a goal down while we were a goal up, they seemed to be dead and buried in the race, but it turned around later and they're right back in. If Man City do fall away as we hope, and if we also stutter, then surely they'd have a sniff later? I've ruled them out many times, and they've just kept coming back. The question is how much longer can they keep up? Surely, both City and us will start dropping more points than the first half of the season, and that will make it easier for Spurs to keep up.

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« Reply #4271 on: February 2, 2019, 03:32:55 PM »
Well the unflushable turd won again. Amazing gaffe by Newcastle’s keeper after 83 mins.
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« Reply #4272 on: February 2, 2019, 03:36:34 PM »
I said it on the post match thread and will post it again here - fans should all focus on the fact that we even got ourselves into the position to be 10 or 7 points clear.

Focusing on us not taking those opportunities overlooks the 11 wins in 12 leagues matches prior to Leicester (i.e. that period when we didn't 'bottle it', and racked up a ton of points whilst whilst others faltered), and the colossal achievement of this team so far this season in winning every single game against teams outside the top six - with Leicester being the only exception in over 5 months of football.

The respect for City is way too high considering all the factors that are playing out for them this season - their injury issues, massive fixture congestion looming, Pep getting more rattled each week, and 4 defeats in their last 9. Yet some on here cry into their keyboards as if City are going to get 14 straight wins and we will throw it all away. Where's the evidence? 2013/14? 2008/9? Those aren't even the same players, managers, or backroom staff, and we're a completely different club now, run in a completely different way.

It's the difference between 'Liverpool drop points at home against Leicester', and 'Liverpool extend their lead over City'. Both are true, but in the overall scheme of things, and considering injuries, conditions, and refereeing, I'm focusing on the latter.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4273 on: February 2, 2019, 03:41:19 PM »
You do know that's what they say about Liverpool too.

It has nothing to do with it, different teams under different managers. This present team hasn't been in a title chase before.
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« Reply #4274 on: February 2, 2019, 04:17:24 PM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.

Load of bollocks.

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« Reply #4275 on: February 2, 2019, 04:20:51 PM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.


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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4276 on: February 2, 2019, 04:21:23 PM »
Did an Anfield experience today with the kids, Aldo and Phil Neal were the ex-players. Both said do not even discuss winning the league at this point in time. Neal especially said that the title winning sides just concentrated on the next game and just ticked each one off until they had the points required.

Aldo said the players do feel the anxiety and worry coming from the crowd, so those in the ground just need get behind the lads and make Anfield a cauldron at every game.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4277 on: February 2, 2019, 04:25:36 PM »
I know some of will completely disagree but the league will be won or lost or Monday! Win to stay 5 points clear or lose and find ourselves a point behind after Everton - city game on Wednesday night!!  :no :wave :butt
We have to win what ever it takes against West ham.

Can’t make out if this is supposed to be a parody of some of the overreacting, nervous fans adding pressure at the liecester game that VVD was going on about or just outright trolling.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4278 on: February 2, 2019, 04:28:10 PM »
There was a time the management, team and fans barely look at the league table before Jan and even then it was a case of time to roll up the sleeves and push on by either clinching the title by April or catch up time. Slightly different now as we ebb n flow like a float in the waves, Up one second fecked the next. Bottling it should not even be whispered within 10 miles of Anfield as the lads are too good to throw anything away and considering how close City are you cant bottle anything when all it takes is a couple of poor games for us. Bottling it is when you are 10 points ahead with 5 games left and not winning. Honestly this is the time the best in anything crave for as they want to be pushed, they want to see how good they are....they want the adrenaline so us fans should be the same as we are on our second title charge in 5 years and that does not happen too often these days. Probably the third time for me in three decades so enjoy it as life is bloody short.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4279 on: February 2, 2019, 05:11:34 PM »
Now the dust has settled (or snow) after Wednesday, let's not jump ship saying the performance was poor. Those conditions in the first half suited a team defending deep, not a team trying to pass the ball around. We like to play at pace and the ball wouldnt "play ball" because of the pitch. Who else expected a pass to go short and it be intercepted? We couldn't play a game we wanted to, Maguire was a thug who should have been sent off, and therefore wouldn't have been on the pitch to score the equaliser. Add that to the fact Mane clear thro wasn't offside, and to cap it all, blind Atkinson was probably the only person inside that ground who didn't think it was a clear foul on Keita. You only had to look at the face on Ricardo which gave it away as well!

Let's get back to what we do the best, get down to London and beat West Ham, and another ticked off on th road to glory. We are Liverpool, we never ever do things the easy way!
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