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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4120 on: February 1, 2019, 02:48:37 AM »
I know that I watched it with zero anxiety and whilst it was a missed opportunity,we stretched our lead and that's all I care about.

Call bullshit all you like,fact is,you're wrong.

Same here. The result is disappointing, but we are still ahead in the table. We still have our fate in our own hands and in fact have extended our lead. If you are anxious now, whats going to happen 5 games down the road, when there are 9 games left and its crunch time? Oh to fast forward to the end of the season when we all know whats going to happen...

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4121 on: February 1, 2019, 03:21:45 AM »
If you can't create a positive atmosphere at the match in times like this then don't watch football. Being nervous and anxious during a game is normal, but sitting on your arse and being dead silent and moaning instead spurring the lads on, you know who are trying to win it after 29 years of not winning it, is baffling.



I was watching on TV and I actually felt more nervous looking at faces and expressions in the crowd. The tension was just unbearable. It’s impossible for that not to transmit on the pitch. I am already dreading what the atmosphere is going to be like in the Bournemouth game. I think the fans in the ground just need believe in the team a little bit more. I mean we’re not on this position by fluke. We must have done something right to be where we are.

This is probably going to sound strange but it might actually be better for us to play away right now after that game, than at home. There will be no tension away at West Ham and the away end will be bouncing. I think we’ll play far better than yesterday and West Ham are not going to defend in 2 banks of 4. They will give it a go which always plays in to our hands on the road.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4122 on: February 1, 2019, 04:02:03 AM »
I agree with number7, we need some psychological freedom at this time.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4123 on: February 1, 2019, 04:17:36 AM »
I was watching on TV and I actually felt more nervous looking at faces and expressions in the crowd. The tension was just unbearable. It’s impossible for that not to transmit on the pitch. I am already dreading what the atmosphere is going to be like in the Bournemouth game. I think the fans in the ground just need believe in the team a little bit more. I mean we’re not on this position by fluke. We must have done something right to be where we are.

This is probably going to sound strange but it might actually be better for us to play away right now after that game, than at home. There will be no tension away at West Ham and the away end will be bouncing. I think we’ll play far better than yesterday and West Ham are not going to defend in 2 banks of 4. They will give it a go which always plays in to our hands on the road.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4124 on: February 1, 2019, 05:11:24 AM »
I think everyone needs to smoke some quality J before the match.

I agree with you playing away from Anfield is a blessing right now

Mate, I treated myself to a fat one before the match and I could still feel myself being tense as fuck lol. Palms were sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy and all that shit. But something flipped and I realised that there is nothing wrong in having hope. I mean, Jurgen did tell us to start believing didn't he? What we need to do as fans is to always ensure that our belief is expressed positively. Always.

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« Reply #4125 on: February 1, 2019, 07:36:41 AM »
And that is exactly part of the issue for me Jill and why I don't think the fans can be criticised too much, we're sitting watching our side try to regain their rhythm and sharpness in a game that can directly result in us taking advantage of our main compeitors for the title, that in itself is always going to cause some degree of anxiety. Agree 100% the pitch made things difficult, but then that's just another thing that plays into it as people see we aren't moving the ball quickly due to the conditions, see moving it slowly isn't creating chances, see the clock ticking on while we look uncharacteristically shaky at the other end and as a direct result worry that things aren't going our way. That's without even factoring in it feels like the refs against us with his bad decision after bad decision

I'm not saying moan and groan all game and its okay, but I do think the atmosphere was understandable

It doesn't sound harsh at all, it just sounds ridiculously unrealistic because no ones fans do that :lmao

You could sit and tell me you watched that match in its entirety without any sign of anxiety of frustration and i'd call bullshit because I don't reckon any of our fans did, its not that simple to just switch of any emotion or feeling towards the game because youv'e walked into the stadium. There's a multitude of things that were going against us last night and it all fed into it. You can write anything out on a forum and make it seem simple as, but most people don't convey emotion after going through a flowchart in their head of whether displaying frustration is a good choice at this present moment in time and thinking what are the knock on effects of me being frustrated. No one's saying moan and groan constantly but it was a case of what was happening on the field feeding into the emotion through the stands and that feeding back into what was going on during the game on the field.

If its as simple as that you could sit and say whip up a champions league atmosphere every anfield game because 'why would I not try everything I can to help the team win' but inevitably, its not the case

Having been there ok Wednesday I think there's a lot of sense in here. There were a lot of weird circumstances at work, the atmosphere should have been a lot lot better of course but I do think there's a lot of mitigation in here. If you compare it to the previous game against palace when we were behind, and pegged back, the atmosphere was pretty good throughout. I think a lot played into Wednesday, and that Ultimately the same won't happen again.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4126 on: February 1, 2019, 07:58:29 AM »
Mate, I treated myself to a fat one before the match and I could still feel myself being tense as fuck lol. Palms were sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy and all that shit. But something flipped and I realised that there is nothing wrong in having hope. I mean, Jurgen did tell us to start believing didn't he? What we need to do as fans is to always ensure that our belief is expressed positively. Always.

Maybe there was something in that joint?  8)
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4127 on: February 1, 2019, 08:10:17 AM »
The Liverpool team were booed off the pitch after going top of the league in Jan. So Anfield being tense far too early in a league challenge season is nothing new. Decades without a title will do that.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4128 on: February 1, 2019, 08:35:07 AM »
Having about 4 pints before going into Anfield makes me so much calmer. I took my son to the Palace game, didn't drink a drop and was a quivering mess.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4129 on: February 1, 2019, 08:45:54 AM »
If ours and City's last games were the other way around we'd all be feeling really positive however because we missed an opportunity then it feels negative.

I'm not bothered so much by the result as we did increase our lead slightly, but the performance was the worrying aspect. We looked shaky at the back and laboured going forward. I know the pitch didn't help but Leicester sliced through us quickly on a number of occasions so we really should've been able to do the same more than we did.

Hopefully a game away from Anfield where the other team will be a bit more open might allow us to get a bit of confidence back. We need to give someone a hiding; fingers crossed it'll be on Monday.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4130 on: February 1, 2019, 08:53:56 AM »
I think of the non top six, Palace and Leicester are two of the more dangerous sides to play at home because they are good on the counter. Bournemouth next at home and they can be dangerous too. I think an away game next might not be a bad thing either.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4131 on: February 1, 2019, 09:12:16 AM »
I think of the non top six, Palace and Leicester are two of the more dangerous sides to play at home because they are good on the counter. Bournemouth next at home and they can be dangerous too. I think an away game next might not be a bad thing either.

Agree with this...was saying on the results comparison thread that of the 5 games we've had in the "2nd half" of the season we've had City away, Arsenal, Palace, Leicester which are 4 pretty tricky games!

Add to that we've had to play two teams with fast counter attackers whilst having issues at right back...

Been harder than it seems but in that block of 5 we've won 3 lost one drew one. 10/15 is not that bad.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4132 on: February 1, 2019, 09:16:16 AM »
Fully expect Arsenal to roll over and have their belly's tickled this weekend :-(.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4133 on: February 1, 2019, 09:16:58 AM »
Mate, I treated myself to a fat one before the match and I could still feel myself being tense as fuck lol. Palms were sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy and all that shit.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4134 on: February 1, 2019, 09:25:02 AM »
Fully expect Arsenal to roll over and have their belly's tickled this weekend :-(.


While we'd be amazed at a win for them they can nick a draw

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« Reply #4135 on: February 1, 2019, 09:27:14 AM »
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4136 on: February 1, 2019, 09:35:36 AM »
While we'd be amazed at a win for them they can nick a draw

Arsenal and Everton are exceptionally unlikely to take anything from their games with city. Arsenal because their defence is paper thin, Everton because they're absolutely shite.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4137 on: February 1, 2019, 09:37:31 AM »
While we'd be amazed at a win for them they can nick a draw
Don't think their defence is up to that, sadly...
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4138 on: February 1, 2019, 09:44:59 AM »
Arsenal and Everton are exceptionally unlikely to take anything from their games with city. Arsenal because their defence is paper thin, Everton because they're absolutely shite.
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« Reply #4139 on: February 1, 2019, 09:51:35 AM »
Arsenal and Everton are exceptionally unlikely to take anything from their games with city. Arsenal because their defence is paper thin, Everton because they're absolutely shite.

I feel like it needs repeating that their dropped points have all been in games that people thought they’d walk. I don’t think we should expect them to drop points but I’m honestly not going to be surprised at any points they drop from here.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4140 on: February 1, 2019, 09:52:59 AM »
Fully expect Arsenal to roll over and have their belly's tickled this weekend :-(.


Not so sure about that, I think it just all depends on how disorganised their defence is. If they have learned anything from the game against us, then they should put on a better show. They have every chance to do something because they have the ability to score and cause problems and City are vulnerable at the moment. Of late, City haven't coped well going behind hence the 4 defeats.

If City score a couple early, then most likely they will win at a canter but if not, I can see them becoming tense (like us) like they were on Tuesday and that gives every team with attacking quality a chance.
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« Reply #4141 on: February 1, 2019, 10:09:27 AM »
I was watching on TV and I actually felt more nervous looking at faces and expressions in the crowd. The tension was just unbearable. It’s impossible for that not to transmit on the pitch. I am already dreading what the atmosphere is going to be like in the Bournemouth game. I think the fans in the ground just need believe in the team a little bit more. I mean we’re not on this position by fluke. We must have done something right to be where we are.

This is probably going to sound strange but it might actually be better for us to play away right now after that game, than at home. There will be no tension away at West Ham and the away end will be bouncing. I think we’ll play far better than yesterday and West Ham are not going to defend in 2 banks of 4. They will give it a go which always plays in to our hands on the road.

While it may be taken out of context as Im sure the TV cameras can be selective but to see fans with heads in hands, chewing finger nails or sitting there as if their dog died you do have to wonder what we will be like in three months time. We are big boys and if the worse happens (in terms of a game we watch once or twice a week) and we dont win the title is that going to be the end of the world? Feck no so why not enjoy the moment as we are having a great season. Support with vigour, get your heads up and shout with passion to egg on the lads and at least we can enjoy the piss ups from here on until the hangover kicks in. I really wish the club had a 1000 young lads in a section somewhere just constant;y pushing on the team and other fans to get off their fat asses as the 12th man has been found wanting way too often since the last title was won.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4142 on: February 1, 2019, 10:10:00 AM »
Arsenal and Everton are exceptionally unlikely to take anything from their games with city. Arsenal because their defence is paper thin, Everton because they're absolutely shite.

It could well be that the Everton players will be motivated for this as they know that their own fans are desperate for them to loose but the Everton players hate their own fans, so might try their hardest and try to piss them off. However I take your point, they are shite.
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« Reply #4143 on: February 1, 2019, 10:13:11 AM »
Not so sure about that, I think it just all depends on how disorganised their defence is. If they have learned anything from the game against us, then they should put on a better show. They have every chance to do something because they have the ability to score and cause problems and City are vulnerable at the moment. Of late, City haven't coped well going behind hence the 4 defeats.

If City score a couple early, then most likely they will win at a canter but if not, I can see them becoming tense (like us) like they were on Tuesday and that gives every team with attacking quality a chance.

If they press high up the pitch onto the City defence like Newcastle did, they might have success. Arsenal did it to us and Chelsea early in those games and scored goals.
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« Reply #4144 on: February 1, 2019, 10:18:22 AM »
I feel like it needs repeating that their dropped points have all been in games that people thought they’d walk. I don’t think we should expect them to drop points but I’m honestly not going to be surprised at any points they drop from here.

If they dropped points to everton I'd have to reconsider everything I thought I knew about the world I'd be that surprised. Is up down? Is black white? The entire universe would feel entirely inverse to me it would be so unlikely to happen.
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« Reply #4145 on: February 1, 2019, 12:13:45 PM »
I am glad we play on Monday already and for once I am glad we play away. West Ham are no pushovers though and we have to prove once again our resiliency to bounce-back after a disappointing result -  even though I am not that unhappy about this draw vs Leicester, as we have won 4/6 points against them. ManCity can only win 3/6 against them this season and still have to play them again. So we outperformed City in that duel :)

Resilience will be key in the coming weeks. For us it's all about reaching the performance levels that we know will make us extremely hard to beat, knowing that a single goal might be enough for three points once our backline is settled again. For ManCity, it's something they have yet to prove this season. In December they lost three in four games in short succession, now they have lost one they didn't expect and face three good teams within a week. Even though I expect them to win against Arsenal (but only just!), I think they will find the away game at Everton in midweek under the lights much harder than the home match against a Chelsea team in crisis.

Anyway, we as fans can watch them face these challenges pretty relaxed, as we still have a good 5-point cushion and injured players coming back.
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« Reply #4146 on: February 1, 2019, 12:58:25 PM »
Arsenal will need a miracle, Everton will roll over to get their tummies tickled and I can only see Chelsea giving City a fight if they bother to turn up.

We on the other hand need to do our job regardless of what they do.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4147 on: February 1, 2019, 01:02:23 PM »
I feel like it needs repeating that their dropped points have all been in games that people thought they’d walk. I don’t think we should expect them to drop points but I’m honestly not going to be surprised at any points they drop from here.

City have dropped points to teams with reasonable defenses. Arsenal on the other hand are wide open.
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« Reply #4148 on: February 1, 2019, 01:03:55 PM »
I dont think they'll WIN it. We didn't win the title the 13/14 season but we were damn sure in the race, they can compete without ending top

Ok I see where you're coming from now, don't think they're in it though, whenever they get a sniff they drop points.
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« Reply #4149 on: February 1, 2019, 01:11:36 PM »
It's felt for over a month that we are one game heads going. On reflection, the point on Wed will turn out decent if we beat West Ham. I would probably have settled for 4 points from those two fixtures. West Ham are tough to gauge too, hopefully Arnautovic will be out.

After losing to City then going out of the cup, the Palace game was of similar importance - a draw or loss there would have been disastrous in the context of the week before.

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« Reply #4150 on: February 1, 2019, 01:34:29 PM »
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« Reply #4151 on: February 1, 2019, 01:38:25 PM »
He's nervous

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« Reply #4152 on: February 1, 2019, 01:44:25 PM »
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« Reply #4153 on: February 1, 2019, 02:02:47 PM »
City have dropped points to teams with reasonable defenses. Arsenal on the other hand are wide open.

They’re more than capable of being well drilled if they’re going to do a little bus parking
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« Reply #4154 on: February 1, 2019, 02:07:33 PM »
They’re more than capable of being well drilled if they’re going to do a little bus parking

They also have more than enough going forward to cause City problems.

It's worth remembering this is another week where City are playing 3 games in 7 days knowing that they basically can't afford any slip ups. I'm expecting them to get 9 points but it won't be easy for them and the sheer volume of fixtures could take it's toll.

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4155 on: February 1, 2019, 03:15:26 PM »
Its going to be frustrating if Arsenal defend like they did against us.  ;D

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« Reply #4156 on: February 1, 2019, 03:28:01 PM »
Again its being a human being, the fans aren't robots.

You can look at yesterdays game as 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. We saw City lose (no the ignore City stuff isn't realistic) We conceded at a shit time in an arguably unjust manner, we played worse than we have been over the course of the season, looked shaky at the back and moved the ball very slowly which is the opposite of what you need to do to open up these deep defensive line sides, all of that feeds into anxiety from fans, at the same time, hearing fans groan or display frustration will naturally get to the fans and make them feel pressure. It goes both ways, the thing is this 'stay calm' stuff is delightfully optimistic but is it realistic? How many of you can say you sat and watched the game without showing any signs of frustration or anxiety? Why is it different if you are in the stadium, you feel the exact same things and to be honest, there were a good number of times where fans were cheering us on and encouraging when we had them penned in, when we were looking to create chances, when the ref clearly got things wrong, it wasn't all moans and groans.

EVERY side has anxiety around the stadium in big games, its always been the case and to be honest it always will be

People could hide their nervousness/anxiety for 90 odd minutes, just as we do on many occasions in our lives. Players are nervous before they go on the pitch, but then they perform. We, the supporters, need to put on a performance too. Sing, cheer, act positive through the anxiety and tension. Be a nervous wreck before and after the game.
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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4157 on: February 1, 2019, 03:30:59 PM »
I can understand the nervousness, but this is not a do or die game. Napoli was a do or die game. If anything fans would have been more anxious then, yet here fans seem to be more anxious and antsy? why?

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Re: Chasing the Title, The Pack Chasing Us
« Reply #4158 on: February 1, 2019, 03:43:59 PM »
I can understand the nervousness, but this is not a do or die game. Napoli was a do or die game. If anything fans would have been more anxious then, yet here fans seem to be more anxious and antsy? why?

I think after Mane’s early goal, the crowd just expected the win and a 7 point lead. Then the failure of the ref to send off Slabhead, who then equalised, and the lack of chances as time edged on in the second half, lead the crowd’s expectations and anxiety to become exasperation and moaning. Against Napoli, there wasn’t that same expectation, so we weren’t taking the win for granted.
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« Reply #4159 on: February 1, 2019, 03:47:09 PM »
I think after Mane’s early goal, the crowd just expected the win and a 7 point lead. Then the failure of the ref to send off Slabhead, who then equalised, and the lack of chances as time edged on in the second half, lead the crowd’s expectations and anxiety to become exasperation and moaning. Against Napoli, there wasn’t that same expectation, so we weren’t taking the win for granted.

Could be. I was certainly more anxious against Napoli.

Here it just did not look like we were going to score.... But given the Man City result I was just meh, just get at least a point. Of course 3 points would have been good, but if we don't won the title, drawing this would not be the main reason.