Topic: Chasing the Title

[The G in Gerrard]

56% win ratio under Klopp, 1% better than Rafa and only 1% behind the great Bob Paisley. Kenny's record is remarkable and the best team I've seen up until now, different era of course.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liverpool_F.C._managers

I think Klopp has been magnificent past couple of years. Improved side throughout. In a age where money is paramount the fact we've kept up with City (and lost only one league game) is staggering.

[The G in Gerrard]

Yeah I was shocked hearing that. Incredible!

Yeah easy to forget how good we've been for a while now.

[RainbowFlick]

Second half of Southampton I was stood and thinking how the fatigue is getting to me... all I’m doing is turning up to matches. 

Second wind time

[The Final Third]

Let's keep the Jürgenfest going:

At this point in his LFC stint (141 games in the League) he's accrued the most points - 287 (adj. for 3pts/win) of any LFC manager at the same number of games..

JK 287
KD 280
BP 259
RB 258
GH 242
RE 242
BS 234

[Sharado]

Second half of Southampton I was stood and thinking how the fatigue is getting to me... all I’m doing is turning up to matches. 

Second wind time

I've reached the point now where I feel physically ill during games. Yesterday I watched the first half at a mates house and had to leave at half time as I felt like my head was going to explode. Thank fuck I did though, won't be watching any more games round at his.

[Andar]

Bad feeling to make up for yesterday, they're going to come out pressing like headless chickens and get picked off by City. They look so badly coached at the moment. The players are getting the blame but fuck me Solskjaer must be sending the players out in knots. Hence the lack of energy and desire.

He is absolutely out of his depth and nowhere near qualified enough for a job this big.

I think it'll end up being a valiant defeat. They'll put in a whole more effort but individually and tactically they will be outclassed. Not far of to the way they lost to PSG at home.

[Yiannis]

Chelsea's greatest side, and possible Mourinho's best side in his managerial career, one of the best sides in the last 20 years in the league won the league with 95 points, in which they drew 8 times and lost once. They drew 5 of those 8 games at home.

We may finish the season with 97 points and come second. Anyone criticizing this side and saying we should have done this or that, needs to understand the difficulty of what we have done cause some of you are clearly aren't grasping it.

Whoever goes back and says that for example we could have done this and that and beat Leicester or West ham, united, Everton I guarantee you he/she would not at the same time think of cancelling the late winners against Spurs and Everton 

....it just shows there is no point doing that. It's a potential 97 points season. You can't ask more than that. Feel bitter by all means cause that may not be enough, I know I will. It's crazy and I will be double disappointed for the players and Klopp after such a season and the effort they put in. But you can't go back and ask more after such a points tally. After such spells of superiority the team showed. After showing how good they are.

[MerseyMania]

One thing I see this forum and then Bluemoon, this has lot more level heads and guys with intense understanding of the games.. cant say of the same there except quoting vague unconvincing reasons like why we will win the league etc..

I think united for them and Huddersfield for us are guaranteed winners, out trickier fixtures if any will come from the remaining 2 for us and 3 for them, 2 of which are away from home..

[Andar]

I was looking back at my posts in January to see how i was feeling about our chances back then. Truth be told i'm not so confident in our chances right now. So trying to remind myself to where i was earlier in the season.

Posted this at the end of January. Predicting 93 will be enough and City should end up with 92!

I've been looking at the season through three block of 10 games and then the final 8 games as the run-in. As the season has gone on, for me the target has been to reach 75 points as we hit the 30 game mark. Then we have the final 8 games in where 20 points will get us to 95. Asking for a total anything more than that is cloud cuckooland sort of stuff. We're good but we're still a bit short in depth to pull off anything more that. Totalling 95 is a huge task in itself.

Of course it comes down to how City do themselves. The maximum they can get is 98. I do believe they have 3 more draws in them at the least, which will have them at 92. We could do with them dropping two points in one of their next 6 games before we hit the 30th game mark, and then looking at their final 8 game run-in, there are 4 points to be dropped there - United (a), Spurs (h), Palace (a), Burnley (a), Leicester (h), Brighton (a). That is tough and there are two games in where they should drop points in. If they're juggling CL games in between, then dropping 4 points should be a more sure thing.

Have to stay cool and focus on ourselves. 93-94 points should be the target and i do believe that will be enough. City have 6 more dropped points in them. Do our job and hit that points total and we'll be celebrating a title win.

How amazing have we done. I was calling the possibility of getting more than 95 points 'cloud cuckooland sort of thinking', and here we are on track to get 97.

It's beyond irritating. I mean i was convinced 93-94 points would do it, and here we are contemplating whether 97 is enough. Those dropped points i was calling for City are still yet to come. Speaking of them probably dropping 6 points, and they've yet to drop 2.

Here is hoping for the best on Wednesday and Sunday. Argh.

[Felch Aid]

Fuck it utd are going to react and at least turn up on Wednesday. That type of defeat has been potentially there all season and it can't get much worse.

[deano2727]

One thing I see this forum and then Bluemoon, this has lot more level heads and guys with intense understanding of the games.. cant say of the same there except quoting vague unconvincing reasons like why we will win the league etc..

I think united for them and Huddersfield for us are guaranteed winners, out trickier fixtures if any will come from the remaining 2 for us and 3 for them, 2 of which are away from home..

While its difficult to have confidence in United, its nonsense to say its a guaranteed win. Its a derby, United have decent players. They can hurt City. Problem is, their defence is shite. Just need to hope the likes of Pogba, Martial and Rashford turn it on and DDG has a blinder. Wednesday is the one game I actually hold a little hope for. United need the points and need to bounce back.

If City win on Wednesday, I won't have given up, but I'd be amazingly surprised if they slipped up after that. There is just as much chance we slip up as them after Wednesday. I'd definitely shift my hopes to the CL if they do win on Wednesday. If Burnley get a point tonight, they will be mathematically safe I believe (they are safe anyway), so not sure how up for a fight they would be. Leicester will give it a go under Rodgers, might even get a goal or 2, but City at home will take them apart over 90 mins. Brighton, final day of the season, less said the better. What a story it would be though if they kept themselves up AND won us the league on the final day of the season.

With all that said, come on United!!

[Dave D]

Man city have been caught out a few times this season when they feel they just have to turn up to win.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Nothing is guaranteed in football, if they don't slip up against the Mancs, there are no guarantees they win all of their remaining games. Of course it's unlikely they slip but football again is a funny old game [and the same for us, we need to keep winning. ]

[Mighty Zeus]

Fuck it utd are going to react and at least turn up on Wednesday. That type of defeat has been potentially there all season and it can't get much worse.

Arg, I wish they would.

I don't think you need to be conspiracy minded to think that Manchester United won't turn up if it means helping Liverpool win the title. It's just... the way it goes. It's already fine margins.

Besides I don't think they're actually capable. This United side is utterly rancid.

[Bolrick]

Just enjoy the ride..... If man city goes on to win it, then lets just be graceful and congratulate them. if we get 97 points, it will be a huge accomplishment in itself.  We will be officially have the 2nd best team in premier league history points wise........ Better than Man U. Better than arsenal's invincibles.

This coming in a season where english clubs have dominated in europe.

[wige]

Agreed. If we end up with 97 points and finish second then we are still winners in my eyes. Lots to look forward to over the next few seasons.

Think the general media is starting to see it this way too. Two fantastic teams going toe to toe, neither blinking, neither giving an inch. Brilliant players, brilliant managers. Regardless of whether we win it or not, I think we'll see a huge appreciation for both sides and their efforts from most commentators.

Not getting into the financial doping aspects - it's there, but I'd rather just focus on the footy.

[Crosby Nick]

When this thread gathered pace i think I said 95 points would win it and I was very confident we’d be champions. The head to head game was obviously a biggie but even allowing for defeat there I had them down to drop at least 4 points after that. Mad that they’ve been almost perfect this half of the season and yet here we still are, still in with a very decent chance.

[Nick110581]

Arg, I wish they would.

I don't think you need to be conspiracy minded to think that Manchester United won't turn up if it means helping Liverpool win the title. It's just... the way it goes. It's already fine margins.

Besides I don't think they're actually capable. This United side is utterly rancid.

They need to turn up. Their fans will surely demand it.

[sms1986]

Arg, I wish they would.

I don't think you need to be conspiracy minded to think that Manchester United won't turn up if it means helping Liverpool win the title. It's just... the way it goes. It's already fine margins.

Besides I don't think they're actually capable. This United side is utterly rancid.

Their players and their manager don't care if we win the title or not, they'll care far more about their own team.

[Sharado]

We've gone round and round on the will united try thing now. It's simple:

Will they try - yes.
Will that be good enough - almost certainly no.

I'm just going to have to enjoy united being fucking awful for the next few days and hope that city drop something in their games to come.

[wemmick]

Its fucking bizarre really. Even if we dont win the league, itll be the 3rd highest points total in history. Better than all United's totals, Arsenal's, Chelsea's. This current side is easily one of the best ever seen in the Premier League.

And it's starting to don on the supporters of those clubs. My mate at work supports Utd and he wants them to lose to City because he is afraid that our side will be remembered as a better side than all of Feguson's if we win the league. Bizarre way of thinking to me.

[Xabi Gerrard]

These are the 2 best English teams of the Premier League era, maybe even longer. Only Chelsea from 04/05 can hold a candle to them. No one else comes close to being this good at accumulating wins and points. Insane and unfortunate that they’ve both landed in the same season.

I’ve been folornly hoping that Jahanbaksh would make a massive impact at Brighton as I wanted to see a fellow Iranian do well in England. He’s been largely underwhelming, but I’ve got a sneaky feeling he’s gonna do the business for me on the last day and be the man who takes the decisive points off Man City, you read it here first!

[Samie]

I think we'll win all our games not sure where the blue macs will drop points though. 

[Carra-ton]

Klopp just burnt United in that post match presser.

https://www.football365.com/news/klopp-aims-huge-dig-at-man-utd-ahead-of-derby-match

“It [the derby] is not something we can influence, and it does not look like United are in a place to, either,”

[Crosby Nick]

These are the 2 best English teams of the Premier League era, maybe even longer. Only Chelsea from 04/05 can hold a candle to them. No one else comes close to being this good at accumulating wins and points. Insane and unfortunate that they’ve both landed in the same season.

I’ve been folornly hoping that Jahanbaksh would make a massive impact at Brighton as I wanted to see a fellow Iranian do well in England. He’s been largely underwhelming, but I’ve got a sneaky feeling he’s gonna do the business for me on the last day and be the man who takes the decisive points off Man City, you read it here first!

We have not resorted to that, but  you can tell him now if you’re watching it, we’re still fighting for this title, and he’s got to go to Brighton and get something, and… and… Allahtolla, honestly, I will love it if we beat them. Love it.”

[dirkster]

Klopp just burnt United in that post match presser.

https://www.football365.com/news/klopp-aims-huge-dig-at-man-utd-ahead-of-derby-match

“It [the derby] is not something we can influence, and it does not look like United are in a place to, either,”

That is brilliant from Kloppo

[Bolrick]

Klopp just burnt United in that post match presser.

https://www.football365.com/news/klopp-aims-huge-dig-at-man-utd-ahead-of-derby-match

“It [the derby] is not something we can influence, and it does not look like United are in a place to, either,”

awesome........ mindgames.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Klopp just burnt United in that post match presser.

https://www.football365.com/news/klopp-aims-huge-dig-at-man-utd-ahead-of-derby-match

“It [the derby] is not something we can influence, and it does not look like United are in a place to, either,”

Hes just Mourinhod the shit outta that

Top top mind gaming

[Van Halen]

Man United's starters should be rather rested both physically and mentally given the effort over the weekend.

Amazing - it's like 0.0000% - zero - left of the Ferguson competitive mentality there.  Vanished. 
And this is great, except a flashback on Wed would be nice.

Arsenal laying an egg should give them a boost to go grab some points -- one would think.

[Perham]

For anyone on here who's being defeatist on here and telling everyone that the league is done and city are gonna steamroll the rest of their opponents, consider this. One day this team will be gone and will be remembered by our fans as one of the greatest teams to have ever represented our great club, regardless of whether we win it this season. However, if we do win it, this season will be seen as the most significant in making this team legendary.

 One day, your children or grandchildren will ask you what it was like to watch Klopp's famous Liverpool side who are remembered so fondly. How did it feel to watch them? Why are they remembered so fondly by our generation of fans? Do you really want to say that you spent the whole season telling everyone that city were too good and we had no chance? I know that I don't. Some people don't seem to realise that they're watching history before their very eyes every week and are complaining at every turn.

I understand that it isn't in our hands and there's every chance that city win every game they have left, in which case there's nothing we can do about that apart accept that we were beaten by a record breaking side (with questionable funding to create it) and went toe to toe with them. Some people might think that city are unbeatable and that we may as well not even think about the title at this point and focus on the CL. Personally, I'd prefer to believe and face the heart break if we fail to win the title.

I've grown up with stories about the great sides my dad saw in the 70s and 80s with great players, legendary games and incredible managers who were behind it all. I often wondered what it would be like to support a team like that who go in to every match feeling unstoppable and are feared by all opponents. I believed that those days were long behind us and Liverpool would never again reach those heights but this current crop of players have proved me completely wrong and shown that the glory days could well be back. This season, we've broken record after record set by those great teams, who I feared we'd never replicate again and I'm proud no matter what.

We may not win the league this year. Maybe, unbelievably, 97 points wont be enough for the title but make no mistake, we'll be back next year and many years after that under Klopp. Don't try to talk about draws against Leicester and West ham and say we should have won them because what you're asking for is near perfection and shouldn't be expected. If we break our club record points total and still finish second then of course I'll be devastated but I'll be confident that unlike 2009 and 2014, this isn't a one off. This team is out to make history.

3 games left and the team need support to help get the last 9 possible points of the season and that's all we can do now.

Come on you reds! YNWA

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Fantastic post. I love this side and their character as much as their ability, we aren't going away, this isn't a one time thing, I firmly believe that.

[Red_Rich]

Put it this way ... I'd prefer them to be away at say Arsenal or Chelsea on Wednesday .... they're in the same position (fighting for top 4) but without the conflict of interest in helping us out in the title race.

I still think Burnley and Leicester are more likely than United at the moment mainly because City COULD be complacent against those two.

That said, I think United will go 2-0 up but ultimately lose to a huge City onslaught/comeback.

[Red_Rich]

For anyone on here who's being defeatist on here and telling everyone that the league is done and city are gonna steamroll the rest of their opponents, consider this. One day this team will be gone and will be remembered by our fans as one of the greatest teams to have ever represented our great club, regardless of whether we win it this season. However, if we do win it, this season will be seen as the most significant in making this team legendary.

 One day, your children or grandchildren will ask you what it was like to watch Klopp's famous Liverpool side who are remembered so fondly. How did it feel to watch them? Why are they remembered so fondly by our generation of fans? Do you really want to say that you spent the whole season telling everyone that city were too good and we had no chance? I know that I don't. Some people don't seem to realise that they're watching history before their very eyes every week and are complaining at every turn.

I understand that it isn't in our hands and there's every chance that city win every game they have left, in which case there's nothing we can do about that apart accept that we were beaten by a record breaking side (with questionable funding to create it) and went toe to toe with them. Some people might think that city are unbeatable and that we may as well not even think about the title at this point and focus on the CL. Personally, I'd prefer to believe and face the heart break if we fail to win the title.

I've grown up with stories about the great sides my dad saw in the 70s and 80s with great players, legendary games and incredible managers who were behind it all. I often wondered what it would be like to support a team like that who go in to every match feeling unstoppable and are feared by all opponents. I believed that those days were long behind us and Liverpool would never again reach those heights but this current crop of players have proved me completely wrong and shown that the glory days could well be back. This season, we've broken record after record set by those great teams, who I feared we'd never replicate again and I'm proud no matter what.

We may not win the league this year. Maybe, unbelievably, 97 points wont be enough for the title but make no mistake, we'll be back next year and many years after that under Klopp. Don't try to talk about draws against Leicester and West ham and say we should have won them because what you're asking for is near perfection and shouldn't be expected. If we break our club record points total and still finish second then of course I'll be devastated but I'll be confident that unlike 2009 and 2014, this isn't a one off. This team is out to make history.

3 games left and the team need support to help get the last 9 possible points of the season and that's all we can do now.

Come on you reds! YNWA

Nice post and I agree with most of it ... it's just becoming tiresome being the greatest runners-up of all time.  I'm sick of the "Best team in league history NOT to win the league"  97 points without winning it would be unbearable and it'd be directly because of City ultimately being cheats as a football club.

As for your "remember the Klopp days" point .... I for one wouldn't be happy with that.  It's Newcastle with Keegan 21st Century model.

If we don't win this league it will be 8 out of the last 9 "finals" or "challenges" that we've missed out on.  9 from 10 if we get to the CL final and lose.  Sick of it.  We need to start being winners very soon.  I believe we will like, but the wait is almost killing me.

2007 CL Runners-up
2009 PL Runners-up
2012 LC Winners! FAC Runners-up
2014 PL Runners-up
2016 LC Runners-up/Europa Runners-up
2018 CL Runners-up
2019 PL

[Sharado]

That said, I think United will go 2-0 up but ultimately lose to a huge City onslaught/comeback.

For me the best chance of anything - and it's a slender one - is that city take an early lead and think they're seeing out the game, united blag a lucky equalizer around the 85th. That's about the only way I can see them getting something from it.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

The only thing that the Red Mancs have that could trouble City is pace on the counter, through Rasfhord through Martial and Lingaard [if he plays as Son and Spurs proved on multiple occasions in recent games. But they'll need to avoid conceding in the opening 15 minutes and take their chance if they have any.

Hopefully Pogba turns up in midfield.

[The Naby Keita fan club]

Jeez United are so poor, and going to be for the next 5 or 9 years. They need a massive rebuilding of that overpaid shite. But can they raise their game for a fucking derby? Common Ole Gunar, pick the right team and make it a draw at least.

[SerbianScouser]

Jeez United are so poor, and going to be for the next 5 or 9 years. They need a massive rebuilding of that overpaid shite. But can they raise their game for a fucking derby? Common Ole Gunar, pick the right team and make it a draw at least.

They managed to get a 0-0 draw at home against the best team in the world so it's not impossible they might do the same against City.

[Koparoo]

For anyone on here who's being defeatist on here and telling everyone that the league is done and city are gonna steamroll the rest of their opponents, consider this. One day this team will be gone and will be remembered by our fans as one of the greatest teams to have ever represented our great club, regardless of whether we win it this season. However, if we do win it, this season will be seen as the most significant in making this team legendary.

 One day, your children or grandchildren will ask you what it was like to watch Klopp's famous Liverpool side who are remembered so fondly. How did it feel to watch them? Why are they remembered so fondly by our generation of fans? Do you really want to say that you spent the whole season telling everyone that city were too good and we had no chance? I know that I don't. Some people don't seem to realise that they're watching history before their very eyes every week and are complaining at every turn.

I understand that it isn't in our hands and there's every chance that city win every game they have left, in which case there's nothing we can do about that apart accept that we were beaten by a record breaking side (with questionable funding to create it) and went toe to toe with them. Some people might think that city are unbeatable and that we may as well not even think about the title at this point and focus on the CL. Personally, I'd prefer to believe and face the heart break if we fail to win the title.

I've grown up with stories about the great sides my dad saw in the 70s and 80s with great players, legendary games and incredible managers who were behind it all. I often wondered what it would be like to support a team like that who go in to every match feeling unstoppable and are feared by all opponents. I believed that those days were long behind us and Liverpool would never again reach those heights but this current crop of players have proved me completely wrong and shown that the glory days could well be back. This season, we've broken record after record set by those great teams, who I feared we'd never replicate again and I'm proud no matter what.

We may not win the league this year. Maybe, unbelievably, 97 points wont be enough for the title but make no mistake, we'll be back next year and many years after that under Klopp. Don't try to talk about draws against Leicester and West ham and say we should have won them because what you're asking for is near perfection and shouldn't be expected. If we break our club record points total and still finish second then of course I'll be devastated but I'll be confident that unlike 2009 and 2014, this isn't a one off. This team is out to make history.

3 games left and the team need support to help get the last 9 possible points of the season and that's all we can do now.

Come on you reds! YNWA

I just love this!!! God, I love being a red fan!!!!

[deFacto please, you bastards]

They managed to get a 0-0 draw at home against the best team in the world so it's not impossible they might do the same against City.

It was a poor performance from top to bottom from us though, and the injuries that totally disrupted the flow of the game.

[BobPaisley3]

They managed to get a 0-0 draw at home against the best team in the world so it's not impossible they might do the same against City.

This is the problem for me, they haven’t managed to score against three of the four champions league semi finalists at home this season. They don’t seem to be able to have the balls to take it to high class opponents. They won’t get smashed but I’m not sure they’ll score themselves.