Topic: Brexit: "Vultus inanis est et mori in fossa ego sum!"

[Ghost Town]

Gone full buffalo bill too, excellent ‘tucking’

"It prorogues Parliament and fucks up the country. I said it prorogues Parliament and fucks up the country!!!"

[Zeb]

I honestly don't understand how normal people can support or vote for a pompous twat like that...

Lady Hermon's death stare as he gave her a meaningless answer is my default whenever he appears.

[alonsoisared]

Can someone explain what Labour would gain out of not going along with an election now?

[jillcwhomever]

How can he stand there lecturing people about the constitution after what they have attempted to do in silencing Parliament. Defies belief. Clark standing up and putting them right.

[Elmo!]

Can someone explain what Labour would gain out of not going along with an election now?

They would probably lose? Also the government might find a way to delay it until after Brexit has happened.

[CornerFlag]

Oh, here's Walter...

[Elmo!]

    SCOTLAND’s servants are to defy an order by Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson’s government to stop attending EU meetings in Brussels.

    Officials will continue travelling to the Belgium capital to feed into discussions on devolved issues such as agriculture, fishing and animal welfare.

    The move highlights a breakdown in relations between the Scottish and UK Governments. They have been under considerable strain since the EU referendum in 2016 when Scotland voted to remain in the EU. They deteriorated when ex foreign secretary Jeremy C*nt refused Nicola Sturgeon diplomatic support during a visit to Brussels in June and worsened when Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson became Prime Minister and last week moved to suspend parliament to force through a No Deal.

    Last week The National revealed the Scottish Government had not been consulted on the decision taken by Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay for civil servants to stop attending most meetings in Brussels.

    He announced in August that from September British officials would only attend meetings at which the UK has “a significant national interest in the outcome of discussions, such as on security”.

    However, last night a Scottish Government spokesman said Scottish civil servants would continue to attend EU meetings in Brussels.

    The spokesman said: “Scottish Government officials intend to continue representing Scotland’s position at relevant EU meetings, which is all the more important given the increasing threat of a ‘No Deal’ Brexit and the impact it would have. We are in urgent discussion with the UK Government to ensure its recent decision to reduce attendance at EU meetings does not affect that representation.”

    A spokesman for Scottish Brexit Secretary Mike Russell said the decision to withdraw from the meetings was “typical” of the UK Government approach and it was particularly important for Scotland to be represented in Brussels given the current political and diplomatic situation. He said: “It is typical of the of the high-handed, arrogant and cavalier approach of this out of control Tory government that they should take this move. But as we are dragged ever close to a No-deal Brexit, it has never been more important for Scotland’s voice to be heard in Europe, and the Scottish Government will continue to engage as closely as possible with our European friends and neighbours.”

    The National was alerted to the row last week with one insider saying Scottish civil servants heard of the decision by the UK Government to stop attending most meetings when they saw it in the press.

    “The UK Government didn’t consult or even inform the Scottish Government before making the decision. The first they heard about it was through the media,” one senior figure told us.

    Announcing the decision last month Barclay said: “An incredible amount of time and effort goes into EU meetings, with attendance just the tip of the iceberg. Our diligent, world-class officials also spend many hours preparing for them whether in reading the necessary papers or working on briefings.” More articles

    He said: “From now on we will only go to the meetings that really matter, reducing attendance by over half and saving hundreds of hours. This will free up time for ministers and their officials to get on with preparing for our departure on 31 October and seizing the opportunities that lie ahead.”

    After the decision Fiona Hyslop, the Scottish External Affairs Minister, wrote to Barclay to raise concerns over a lack of consultation, saying: “It is clear beyond any doubt the UK Government should not take a decision on this possible step without proper involvement of the Scottish Government or other devolved administrations.”

    Last night a DExEU spokesman said: “The Brexit Secretary spoke to Scottish Government Minister Fiona Hyslop ahead of the formal announcement being made. We’ve been clear we will attend meetings on issues which are significant to the UK’s continued interests.”

https://www.thenational.scot/news/17876163.scottish-civil-servants-defy-boris-johnson-go-eu-meetings/

[Father Ted]

Rees-Mogg just makes my skin crawl.

Awful creature.

[Zeb]

Can someone explain what Labour would gain out of not going along with an election now?

It wrecks the planned Tory election campaign because there will be no 'deal' Johnson can pretend to be getting. Damages Johnson by forcing him to extend past 31st October. (Which all helps further split Tories.) More time to see whether gap can be closed further before the election is called. Campaign platform for Corbyn 'I stopped 'no deal' - you can trust me on this'. Lot of potential upside there if they can play it as in the national interest rather than the purely party political.

[El Lobo]

"It prorogues Parliament and fucks up the country. I said it prorogues Parliament and fucks up the country!!!"

‘It puts the back stop in the basket or else it gets the hose again’

[oldfordie]

Gove is also careful to say that there will be ‘enough food that people need’ which of course is entirely different from ‘enough food that people want’

All this is going to look awful in a different light.

[TheShanklyGates]

Bercow putting the twat in his place.

[jillcwhomever]

Hahaha you tell them Mr Speaker.

[kennedy81]

When is this prick going to be done? He's unbearable.

[kennedy81]

Richard Corbett
@RCorbettMEP
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The Finnish Presidency of the EU Council of ministers @EUCouncil confirmed in answer to my question in @EPInstitutional that there has been NO NEW PROPOSAL received from the UK government on the Irish #backstop or any other aspect of #Brexit

a sham.

[cowtownred]

Rees-Mogg just makes my skin crawl.

Awful creature.

You could never tire of repeatedly hitting the c*nt with a shovel.

[jillcwhomever]

When is this prick going to be done? He's unbearable.

He will speak for as long as he is able, the speaker needs to kick his ass off the stage.

[kennedy81]

Benn looks like he wants to fight him. haha

[24/7]

Benn looks like he wants to fight him. haha

Wish I'd screenshot the look on Benn's face, with his arms out wide. "C'mon, pussy, let's 'ave it, yer posh TWAT!" would've been the perfect caption

[Zeb]

Liz Kendall: "Rees-Mogg visibly enraging Tory MPs who I would have thought he should be trying to persuade to back the government. Never seen such cold hard anger."

[Iska]

It wrecks the planned Tory election campaign because there will be no 'deal' Johnson can pretend to be getting. Damages Johnson by forcing him to extend past 31st October. (Which all helps further split Tories.) More time to see whether gap can be closed further before the election is called. Campaign platform for Corbyn 'I stopped 'no deal' - you can trust me on this'. Lot of potential upside there if they can play it as in the national interest rather than the purely party political.

Plus the Tories are falling apart before our eyes, no point in interrupting that.

[24/7]

Hang on, the Leader of the House cannot recall exactly when the Prime Minister made him aware of his intentions to prorogue Parliament?!?!?!?! What the actual fuck? You slippery fuckin snake........

[kennedy81]

Wish I'd screenshot the look on Benn's face, with his arms out wide. "C'mon, pussy, let's 'ave it, yer posh TWAT!" would've been the perfect caption

haha yeah

I can't blame him. I don't know how they keep their cool having to listen to such drivel.

[west_london_red]

Interesting point raised by my old local MP Seema Malhotra on the BBC - the Tories are threatening the grandson of Sir Winston Churchill with deselection, that’s where these lot currently are.

[Ghost Town]

Interesting point raised by my old local MP Seema Malhotra on the BBC - the Tories are threatening the grandson of Sir Winston Churchill with deselection, that’s where these lot currently are.

They probably think they don't need the grandson anymore now they have the reincarnation of the man himself in charge.

[Indomitable_Carp]

Well fuck me the country's fucked but this is entertaining if nothing else. Maybe that boredom theory for Brexit that was discussed a few pages back has some legs...

[Iska]

Glad Ian Blackford’s finished, I can’t stand listening to him.  Such a poor speaker.  He always sounds like he’s reading, even when he isn’t.

[Zeb]

Newsnight's Nicholas Watt: "So Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson loyalists in the Lords helping out the PM. Am told 90 amendments have been tabled to an opposition business motion for tomorrow which is designed to find time to debate the anti no deal bill. Minister in the Lords tells me they are trying to block rebels from ‘unprecedented’ move to guillotine (set a time limit) debates if bill is passed in commons and then comes to the Lords. Supporters of PM in the Lords are hoping to have two votes on each of the 90 amendments. ‘Hopefully this will take up 90 hours’, one tells me."

If you remember Cooper's bill going through, it passed as it did because May, ultimately, decided she'd rather facilitate it than set everything on fire trying to stop it. Johnson, not so much.

[24/7]

Ken Clarke just schooled JRM

[Indomitable_Carp]

Tory or not, I'm quite enjoying Ken Clarke ripping into his fellow Tories right now

[rich87]

Kenneth Clarke is killing me 

[Indomitable_Carp]

Who's that weird looking fella sat behind him? Can't tell if he's fuming or not

[24/7]

Kenneth Clarke is killing me 

He's brilliant today........so dry..........so acerbic.

[John C]

If the Johnson loses the vote tonight does that mean we can't leave with No Deal? BBC didn't explain that very well.

[Dr. Beaker]

Who's that weird looking fella sat behind him? Can't tell if he's fuming or not

The unbearable fop, Desmond Swain.

[TepidT2O]

We’re going back to Pitt the Younger in 1793 to see a PM defeated in their first vote...

Will we see it again tonight?

[TepidT2O]

If the Johnson loses the vote tonight does that mean we can't leave with No Deal? BBC didn't explain that very well.

They could just not grant it royal assent...


Which would cause enormous issues... enormous.

[24/7]

We’re going back to Pitt the Younger in 1793 to see a PM defeated in their first vote...

Will we see it again tonight?

Was he an unelected PM too? If not, then Johnson's setting new precedent there

[kennedy81]

Mogg getting a quick kip in.

[John C]

Ken Clarke just schooled JRM

Missed that, any links to it?