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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #400 on: November 27, 2018, 08:55:21 PM »
Herbie Kane just scored a cracker for Rovers. My mates are obsessed with him and all believe heís there best player, a great season heís having it seems!

Their fans were going mad over him on the weekend, saying he'll play for England, one of the best players they've ever had etc, good signs.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #401 on: November 28, 2018, 09:26:29 PM »
Another goal for Harry Wilson tonight

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #402 on: November 28, 2018, 10:34:53 PM »
Wonder how much his free kicks cost? The lad sure knows where the back of the net is.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #403 on: November 28, 2018, 10:35:38 PM »
We must have some clause where he can be recalled? Keep getting laughed out of here for suggesting it but the lad has it, whatever the fuck it is.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #404 on: November 28, 2018, 10:39:57 PM »
We must have some clause where he can be recalled? Keep getting laughed out of here for suggesting it but the lad has it, whatever the fuck it is.
Haha get the hell out of here  ;D

If we bring him back to sit on the bench then whatís the point? Dont see him gettinng ahead of the front 3 and Shaq.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #405 on: November 28, 2018, 10:43:41 PM »
The lad is an incredible talent, Klopp had it absolutely spot on with his comments in pre season

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #406 on: November 28, 2018, 10:58:28 PM »
Haha get the hell out of here  ;D

If we bring him back to sit on the bench then whatís the point? Dont see him gettinng ahead of the front 3 and Shaq.

He's going to be a star and I'm impatient.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #407 on: November 28, 2018, 11:41:02 PM »
What did klopp say?
The lad is an incredible talent, Klopp had it absolutely spot on with his comments in pre season
What did klopp say?
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #408 on: November 28, 2018, 11:48:24 PM »
Wilson has now equaled the 5 goals the Jordan Ibe scored for Derby in the championship having played about 80 minutes less. Ibe was only 19 though. I can't remember people calling Ibe an incredible talent at the time. What gives?
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #409 on: November 29, 2018, 08:22:24 AM »
Wilson has now equaled the 5 goals the Jordan Ibe scored for Derby in the championship having played about 80 minutes less. Ibe was only 19 though. I can't remember people calling Ibe an incredible talent at the time. What gives?

There certainly were, I was one of them and he duly came back and gave 4 months good service before really tailing off the following season.

You can't do anything but doff your cap at the quality of goals Wilson is scoring. And not just for Derby, his strikes for Wales have been equally impressive. I'm struggling to find someone to compare him to. The frequency with which he is burying freekicks is getting freakish and the remarks that always follow about him doing it all the time in training mean it isn't fluke. It marks him out as a player of genuinely rare technical gifts.

That said, I'm doubtful he'll make it here but that is mainly based on the talent already in our possession. He will doubtless go on and have notable career at the top level somewhere though. He's a guaranteed 5-10 goals a season if you can get your players to fall over enough in the vicinity of the opposition box. Pretty handy in open play too. Someone will give us £20m+ sooner or later.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #410 on: November 29, 2018, 08:42:39 AM »
Yeah I remember there being a fair amount of hype for Ibe during that loan spell. He gave a MOTM performance in the derby not long after being recalled too if I remember correctly. Still shows flashes here and there for Bournemouth but really did expect him to have nailed down a place and chip in with more goals there by now.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #411 on: November 29, 2018, 10:36:19 AM »
Wilson has now equaled the 5 goals the Jordan Ibe scored for Derby in the championship having played about 80 minutes less. Ibe was only 19 though. I can't remember people calling Ibe an incredible talent at the time. What gives?

People were excited about him and he did play a fair few games. Not quite good enough for us, but he is a decent player and good enough for PL in my opinion. I think Wilson has more to his game and is doing well, but you have to be pushing world class to get into our front 3.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #412 on: November 29, 2018, 12:12:42 PM »
Ibe was massively hyped! He was supposedly going to be better than Sterling (back when we all thought Sterling was the bees knees).

Re Wilson - don't think I've ever seen a player scoring this many free kicks over a sustained period of time - not Pernambucano, not Beckham. This is, what, his 4th? 5th? in a month or two? Will be interesting to see how long this can go on for. I remember a couple of years back Willian went though a similar spell where he seemed to score free kicks at a ridiculous rate for a month or two, but don't think it was this many.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #413 on: November 29, 2018, 12:42:43 PM »
What did klopp say? What did klopp say?


"Heís a finisher, which is the most difficult thing to learn, he has the nose for a goal if you want,Ē Klopp said in July after convincing the midfielder to sign a new long term contract.

ďHarryís development in the last few years is really exceptional so of course we had to keep the boy!

ďNow we see what we do with that, but itís really good that his long-term future is, for sure, at Liverpool.

ďItís good news.Ē

Ibe was massively hyped! He was supposedly going to be better than Sterling (back when we all thought Sterling was the bees knees).

Re Wilson - don't think I've ever seen a player scoring this many free kicks over a sustained period of time - not Pernambucano, not Beckham. This is, what, his 4th? 5th? in a month or two? Will be interesting to see how long this can go on for. I remember a couple of years back Willian went though a similar spell where he seemed to score free kicks at a ridiculous rate for a month or two, but don't think it was this many.


He's scoring them brilliantly but I have no idea how many he's taking to back that kind of claim. I know what you mean though, I think sometimes its a confidence thing, once one or two go in, players seem to feel they can score every one they take. I remember there was a point any Suarez freekick within a certain range I felt the minimum we got would be him sending the keeper flying across goal to keep it out otherwise its in, the same with Coutinho and I remember thinking in the Arsenal game he was shooting and scoring despite how far out it was.

The most prolific i've seen remains Juninho, never seen a player so gifted at taking them and it annoys me players like mr 1 in over 40 freekicks Ronaldo get credit for a technique that was being used long before he picked it up
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #414 on: November 29, 2018, 12:45:19 PM »
Wilson has now equaled the 5 goals the Jordan Ibe scored for Derby in the championship having played about 80 minutes less. Ibe was only 19 though. I can't remember people calling Ibe an incredible talent at the time. What gives?

Such a lazy argument, expect better from you.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #415 on: December 1, 2018, 03:35:02 PM »
And he scores again.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #416 on: December 1, 2018, 03:35:21 PM »
Harry Wilson at it again. Another goal, dont think it was a free kick this time.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #417 on: December 1, 2018, 03:36:58 PM »
Just out of interest how many goals does he need to score before people consider him to be part of the squad next year?
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #418 on: December 1, 2018, 03:40:30 PM »
Another goal from 25 yards itís come to a point if people donít think heís good enough to play in this team, they really have no clue.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #419 on: December 1, 2018, 03:43:17 PM »
Wilson with 2 so far today already. The lad has to be part of the squad next season.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #420 on: December 1, 2018, 03:43:20 PM »
Scored two now.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #421 on: December 1, 2018, 03:43:54 PM »
Another goal from 25 yards itís come to a point if people donít think heís good enough to play in this team, they really have no clue.

Premier league is very different from scoring against some crappy championship side though.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #422 on: December 1, 2018, 03:47:37 PM »
Shouldn't have been loaned as we are one short in that area but good to see him tearing shit up anyway. Can't wait to see him in pre season with all the lads.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #423 on: December 1, 2018, 03:49:08 PM »
Premier league is very different from scoring against some crappy championship side though.

Come on you negative, miserable sod give the lad some credit. :D

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #424 on: December 1, 2018, 03:50:10 PM »
I'd love you to be right, but to state that his achievements thus far entitle him to a 10 year Anfield career is ridiculous.

At the moment I reckon he's on course to command a nice fee next summer.

Care to change course?
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #425 on: December 1, 2018, 03:51:10 PM »
Premier league is very different from scoring against some crappy championship side though.

Who were prem last year

The lad is a top notch youngster no doubt.

He surely gets next season in the squad to kick on

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #426 on: December 1, 2018, 03:51:16 PM »
Love how all the southern media were going on about Chelsea's Mason Mount at the start of the season as some sort of saviour for English football. Wilson soon shut them up.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #427 on: December 1, 2018, 04:01:52 PM »
Premier league is very different from scoring against some crappy championship side though.

Yes you must have missed the United game?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #428 on: December 1, 2018, 04:08:00 PM »
Love how all the southern media were going on about Chelsea's Mason Mount at the start of the season as some sort of saviour for English football. Wilson soon shut them up.

Wilson's Welsh though?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #429 on: December 1, 2018, 04:09:59 PM »
Love how all the southern media were going on about Chelsea's Mason Mount at the start of the season as some sort of saviour for English football. Wilson soon shut them up.

Can you blame them, some on her have seen him for years and still canít gauge just how much of a talent he is.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #430 on: December 1, 2018, 04:21:55 PM »
Wilson's Welsh though?

I know that but they were making out like Mount was going to lead Derby to the Premiership when we all knew it would be Wilson.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #431 on: December 1, 2018, 04:22:14 PM »
Can you blame them, some on her have seen him for years and still canít gauge just how much of a talent he is.

That's up to them  ;D
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #432 on: December 1, 2018, 04:22:58 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardAmofa/status/1068898183265292288?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Screamer of a goal as well. Donít know how much more he can do to deserve a chance in the first team

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #433 on: December 1, 2018, 04:26:09 PM »
Love how all the southern media were going on about Chelsea's Mason Mount at the start of the season as some sort of saviour for English football. Wilson soon shut them up.

Both are excellent footballers. Wilson is gonna end someone's Liverpool career and good on him.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #434 on: December 1, 2018, 04:38:02 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardAmofa/status/1068898183265292288?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Screamer of a goal as well. Donít know how much more he can do to deserve a chance in the first team

Out of this world. Sure, thereís lots of space - although Wilson is consistently good at moving to find it. But the shot itself will not be bettered this season. He strikes the ball like Shaqiri.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #435 on: December 1, 2018, 04:39:29 PM »
Such a lazy argument, expect better from you.
Not everything is an argument mate when someone doesn't just praise your Wilson. Relax. It was a genuine question. I know I've was recalled from his loan at Derby early but I genuinely can't remember there being as much hype around Ibe.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #436 on: December 1, 2018, 04:42:11 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardAmofa/status/1068898183265292288?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Screamer of a goal as well. Donít know how much more he can do to deserve a chance in the first team

SHIT! Did you see that? He must have a foot like a traction engine
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #438 on: December 1, 2018, 05:09:39 PM »
Wilson could easily place the mediocre of Origi and Sturridge.

Has to be given a chance

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #439 on: December 1, 2018, 05:24:35 PM »
The comparisons between Ibe and Sterling were always well wide of the mark. Sure they're both quick, strong and technical, but Sterling has really good game intelligence, he knows where to be, when to move, when to wait. Ibe is way more (Adama) Traore than Sterling, all ability but no good at using it effectively.

Wilson has plenty of ability and game intelligence, the only thing he's really been lacking is a bit more physicality. Sending him on loan to a league that's technically a level below where he can be but physically a level above where he's at right now was a good idea. He's shown that he can maintain a high level all year round in the reserves, if he can do it in the championship too I'd expect him to be part of the squad next season.

Wilson could easily place the mediocre of Origi and Sturridge.

Has to be given a chance

Sturridge? Mediocre? You watch your mouth!