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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #280 on: October 10, 2018, 01:33:27 PM »

Cheers for these updates Joe. Question: Is Danny Ings left out because he is essentially sold?
I'm really looking forward to the future. People can say it's going to be grim if they want but i'm a Liverpool fan...and I don't fucking believe them.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #281 on: October 10, 2018, 02:15:36 PM »
Markovic just running down his contract at this point? Will he get another in any sort of a decent league?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #282 on: October 10, 2018, 02:18:44 PM »
Markovic just running down his contract at this point? Will he get another in any sort of a decent league?
Unless he's planning on staying local and moving down a division or two, could probably get a contract at a bottom half team in the Portugal prem, maybe.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #283 on: October 10, 2018, 02:52:21 PM »
Cheers for these updates Joe. Question: Is Danny Ings left out because he is essentially sold?

Yes mate, I included him in the first couple of updates earlier in the season because I thought his loan was with an option to buy, but somebody pointed out that it was an obligated buy. I've kept Karius as I believe he has to make a certain amount of appearances before Beşiktaş' option to buy becomes an obligation. I've been meaning for a couple of weeks now to do a statistical post on how many minutes/% of games all our loanees have played so far which I'll probably do now that we're at an international break, I'll still include Ings in that.

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Liverpool U23s: George, N. Williams, Gallacher (Lewis), Johnston, Juanma, Christie-Davies, Markovic (O'Rourke), Virtue, Millar, Chirivella (Coyle), Jones.

Was that Shamal George in goal for us??

That would make sense. He's been on the bench for every Tranmere league game so far but wasn't this weekend.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #284 on: October 10, 2018, 03:14:29 PM »
Markovic just running down his contract at this point? Will he get another in any sort of a decent league?

Hopefully not, and he ends up at some lower league Serbian club and has to pot wash on the side to make ends meet.
Trent is pretty poor at free kicks. Said it for a long time. One decent free kick a few years ago and the commentators think he's Beckham

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #285 on: October 14, 2018, 04:43:38 AM »
Markovic just running down his contract at this point? Will he get another in any sort of a decent league?
Well given that Anderlecht wanted to pay money for him in the last window he should have no problem getting a contract somewhere.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #286 on: October 15, 2018, 11:59:48 AM »
Markovic just running down his contract at this point? Will he get another in any sort of a decent league?

Don’t see him having much of a problem getting a deal in some of the top leagues probably at a bottom half side in France Italy Portugal or Belgium

Probably getting a nice €2/3m signing on bonus


I’d guess he is financially set up when he runs out his contract here

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #287 on: October 15, 2018, 06:49:34 PM »
Thought I'd make use of a very boring international break.

Most Minutes Played: (minutes missed through injury, suspension, international duty, etc. not included)

Ovie Ejaria - 1272 (78.5% of minutes available)
Ryan Kent - 1263 (77.9%)
Adam Bogdan - 1200 (100%)
Herbie Kane - 1199 (83.25%)
Taiwo Awoniyi - 802 (63.65%)
Loris Karius - 630 (100%)
Danny Ings - 625 (77.15%)
Harry Wilson - 596 (73.5%)
Corey Whelan - 540 (85.7%) - highest percentage of minutes for an outfield player
Marko Grujic - 254 (70.55%)
Ben Woodburn - 234 (20.00%)
Sheyi Ojo - 211 (39.00%)
Shamal George - 180 (14.25%)
Allan - 152 (15.35%)
Connor Randall - 70 (19.44%)
Anderson Arroyo - 0 (0.00%)

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Games Played: (games missed through injury, suspension, international duty, etc. not included)

Ovie Ejaria - 18/18 - 100%
Adam Bogdan - 13/13 - 100%
Harry Wilson - 9/9 - 100%
Loris Karius - 7/7 - 100%
Sheyi Ojo - 6/6 - 100%
Marko Grujic - 4/4 - 100%
Ryan Kent - 17/18 - 94.4%
Danny Ings - 8/9 - 88.8%
Herbie Kane - 14/16 - 87.5%
Taiwo Awoniyi - 12/14 - 85.7%
Corey Whelan - 6/7 - 85.7%
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Ben Woodburn - 7/13 - 53.8% *
Connor Randall - 2/4 - 50% *
Allan - 3/11 - 27.2% *
Shamal George - 2/14 - 14.2% *
Anderson Arroyo - 0 - 0.00% *

* = It's stated by numerous sources including managers of some previous loaned clubs that we install fines in the contracts of loaned players so that if they  feature in less than a required number of games - reported to be 75% - the club that have loaned them will be charged. Currently, Sheffield Utd, Rochdale, Frankfurt, Tranmere, and Gent would all fall into that. A few articles last season put the fee Bristol City had to pay us for not playing Kent enough between £200,000 and £500,000.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #288 on: October 16, 2018, 09:10:41 PM »
Another screamer of a free kick for Wilson against the Republic of Ireland...

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #289 on: October 16, 2018, 09:32:17 PM »
Harry Wilson played well tonight. Let’s hope he can improve further and become a very good player.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #290 on: October 16, 2018, 10:00:58 PM »
Wilson is still the best young player we have that isn't currently part of the first team squad. Proper magic in his boots.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #291 on: October 16, 2018, 10:11:20 PM »
By all accounts he did nothing in the game... then hit that..
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #292 on: October 17, 2018, 12:55:23 AM »
By all accounts he did nothing in the game... then hit that..

He was very good in general in the second half, could've had a few more opportunities to score as well all game if the rest of the Welsh players were on his level. He's a special talent and I can't wait to see him back here next year.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #293 on: October 17, 2018, 12:01:13 PM »
By all accounts he did nothing in the game... then hit that..

As said in other thread, he was in some great positions and made some great runs the whole game but the ball constantly went backwards or sideways. He was showing for it all the time

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #294 on: October 21, 2018, 02:13:21 PM »
Ryan Kent has just scored a classy goal against Hamilton, for Rangers. Played through, keeper came out so he chipped him from the edge of the box.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #295 on: October 21, 2018, 02:14:36 PM »
Ryan Kent has just scored a classy goal against Hamilton, for Rangers.
Very well taken goal. Just seen it's his first away from home, but how many has he scored in all comps?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #296 on: October 21, 2018, 02:17:36 PM »
Think he's only scored 2 before today.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #297 on: October 21, 2018, 02:20:29 PM »
Not too bad considering it's a new environment. Were talks of him making the deal permanent, good capture for 'gers if that happens, seems to be enjoying his footy up there.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #298 on: October 21, 2018, 03:44:04 PM »
Ryan Kent has just scored a classy goal against Hamilton, for Rangers. Played through, keeper came out so he chipped him from the edge of the box.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #299 on: October 21, 2018, 08:04:48 PM »
Not too bad considering it's a new environment. Were talks of him making the deal permanent, good capture for 'gers if that happens, seems to be enjoying his footy up there.

Rangers would be looking to pay about £4m imo

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #300 on: October 21, 2018, 08:22:51 PM »
Rangers would be looking to pay about £4m imo
Guess that's about right. Don't think he's getting anywhere near our first team

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #301 on: October 21, 2018, 08:33:27 PM »
Thought I'd make use of a very boring international break.

Most Minutes Played: (minutes missed through injury, suspension, international duty, etc. not included)

Ovie Ejaria - 1272 (78.5% of minutes available)
Ryan Kent - 1263 (77.9%)
Adam Bogdan - 1200 (100%)
Herbie Kane - 1199 (83.25%)
Taiwo Awoniyi - 802 (63.65%)
Loris Karius - 630 (100%)
Danny Ings - 625 (77.15%)
Harry Wilson - 596 (73.5%)
Corey Whelan - 540 (85.7%) - highest percentage of minutes for an outfield player
Marko Grujic - 254 (70.55%)
Ben Woodburn - 234 (20.00%)
Sheyi Ojo - 211 (39.00%)
Shamal George - 180 (14.25%)
Allan - 152 (15.35%)
Connor Randall - 70 (19.44%)
Anderson Arroyo - 0 (0.00%)

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Games Played: (games missed through injury, suspension, international duty, etc. not included)

Ovie Ejaria - 18/18 - 100%
Adam Bogdan - 13/13 - 100%
Harry Wilson - 9/9 - 100%
Loris Karius - 7/7 - 100%
Sheyi Ojo - 6/6 - 100%
Marko Grujic - 4/4 - 100%
Ryan Kent - 17/18 - 94.4%
Danny Ings - 8/9 - 88.8%
Herbie Kane - 14/16 - 87.5%
Taiwo Awoniyi - 12/14 - 85.7%
Corey Whelan - 6/7 - 85.7%
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Ben Woodburn - 7/13 - 53.8% *
Connor Randall - 2/4 - 50% *
Allan - 3/11 - 27.2% *
Shamal George - 2/14 - 14.2% *
Anderson Arroyo - 0 - 0.00% *

* = It's stated by numerous sources including managers of some previous loaned clubs that we install fines in the contracts of loaned players so that if they  feature in less than a required number of games - reported to be 75% - the club that have loaned them will be charged. Currently, Sheffield Utd, Rochdale, Frankfurt, Tranmere, and Gent would all fall into that. A few articles last season put the fee Bristol City had to pay us for not playing Kent enough between £200,000 and £500,000.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #302 on: October 24, 2018, 09:58:26 PM »

Harry Wilson goal for Derby vs West Brom earlier tonight - https://streamable.com/kh5ar
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #303 on: October 24, 2018, 09:59:30 PM »
Harry Wilson goal for Derby vs West Brom earlier tonight - https://streamable.com/kh5ar

Need to see an angle of that from behind the goal, looked like it caught a deflection or the keeper's had a mare.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #304 on: October 24, 2018, 10:03:47 PM »
From watching that I think he's put that straight in with no deflection, if so its a superb strike

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #305 on: October 24, 2018, 10:50:51 PM »
From watching that I think he's put that straight in with no deflection, if so its a superb strike

He did. Great hit.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #306 on: October 24, 2018, 10:52:56 PM »
So excited for him to come back, he's going to be a star.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #307 on: October 24, 2018, 11:12:00 PM »
So excited for him to come back, he's going to be a star.
Agree tho not for Liverpool unfortunately even tho he deffo should be given a chance in the first team

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #308 on: October 24, 2018, 11:36:22 PM »
2 to 3 months into a season and he's already grabbing international headlines. He's too good for the championship and I would love to see him playing with a fully fluid team of players full of confidence. Derby are a great football playing team so far this season. Lawrence and mount have also been playing above that standard.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #309 on: October 24, 2018, 11:45:49 PM »
Agree tho not for Liverpool unfortunately even tho he deffo should be given a chance in the first team

He'll be a player here for 10 more years.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #310 on: October 25, 2018, 08:50:27 AM »
He'll be a player here for 10 more years.

Bold statement.

If he doesn't make it here, we're going to get a nice fee for him as this rate as he's getting a lot of attention (Same goes for Mason Mount at Derby, too)

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #311 on: October 25, 2018, 10:31:00 AM »
He is a wonderful striker of the ball, no question. But it’s the intelligent first touch before his goal last night that stands out. The way he pushed the ball gently into a space he knew was about to be vacated. Clever.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #312 on: October 25, 2018, 11:13:32 AM »
Not sure we could have asked for much more from Wilson, Kent and Ejaria than we've had so far.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #313 on: October 26, 2018, 12:04:10 AM »
Seems like Wilson played in midfield yesterday for Derby,

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #314 on: October 26, 2018, 08:53:23 PM »
Seems like Wilson played in midfield yesterday for Derby,
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #315 on: October 26, 2018, 10:45:58 PM »
Just wanted to mention Kent and another very good performance from him last night in the Europa game for Rangers. Finished 0-0 at Ibrox but he easily looks their most dangerous player and could have had another goal and assist. Ovie had a good all round game as well.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #316 on: October 27, 2018, 05:29:31 AM »
i said to one my friends last week wilson should try and play 8 cos he hasnt the lighning pace to play on wings for us and he laughed at my idea of him playing 8 :)

Can see him talking Lallana's slot in the squad if Adam doesn't manage to come back his previous levels.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #317 on: October 27, 2018, 10:39:51 AM »
Can see him talking Lallana's slot in the squad if Adam doesn't manage to come back his previous levels.

Good shout.

I have had a little concern about how we keep our HG quotas as the likes of Lallana, Milner, Sturridge and a bit later Hendo, move on or retire, given the cost of bang-average English players. But it's being well tempered by the emergence of Gomez and TAA, and the progress of Ejaria, Wilson and Solanke (well last season at least - is he still injured?). Keep it up young reds!

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #318 on: October 27, 2018, 11:07:23 AM »
Good shout.

I have had a little concern about how we keep our HG quotas as the likes of Lallana, Milner, Sturridge and a bit later Hendo, move on or retire, given the cost of bang-average English players. But it's being well tempered by the emergence of Gomez and TAA, and the progress of Ejaria, Wilson and Solanke (well last season at least - is he still injured?). Keep it up young reds!

Add Brewster to that list, if his performance matches his potential.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #319 on: October 27, 2018, 12:45:56 PM »
Wilson close to one of goals of the season then. Volley from outside area. Good save. He looks hell of a talent every week now