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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4200 on: September 16, 2020, 08:23:02 PM »
I have a feeling we might go back to doubting Achterberg soon ;D As far as tedious agendas go, that one was the worst in my opinion...

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4201 on: September 17, 2020, 04:23:38 AM »
I have a feeling we might go back to doubting Achterberg soon ;D As far as tedious agendas go, that one was the worst in my opinion...

Well, you know, Alisson apparently went from a World class keeper to a pile of shit. So...........  ;D
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4202 on: September 17, 2020, 05:25:06 AM »
To be fair, I think quite a number of fans think that (that Alisson is poor at saving penalties), and I was initially in that camp too. But I have come to the view that it isn't Alisson or for that matter, other keepers who have become poor at saving penalties, but that players have become really good at taking them. I have seen a number of shootouts recently and almost invariably, the player scores. So I don't think Alission is poor at saving penalties, just that everyone else has become so good at taking them.

My sense of it is that as teams become increasingly determined to find every edge to win games, it will simply be standard practice for most teams to have their penalty takers practicing pens. When you have more players practicing pens, there will be a lot fewer poorly taken pens, and it will be harder and harder to save them.

With that said I haven't seen the data on pen saves in 2020 vs say, 2012. I could be well off.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4203 on: September 17, 2020, 06:23:21 AM »
Well, you know, Alisson apparently went from a World class keeper to a pile of shit. So...........  ;D
Well, have we got rid yet?




Achterburg I mean - he's obviously a liability - a reverse Midas - turned our world class GK from gold to lead in less than 6 months

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4204 on: September 17, 2020, 06:36:04 AM »
Well, have we got rid yet?




Achterburg I mean - he's obviously a liability - a reverse Midas - turned our world class GK from gold to lead in less than 6 months

Our back 4 was World class too and has turned to trash last game....... Klopp out?!?  ::)
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4205 on: September 17, 2020, 07:24:07 AM »
Our back 4 was World class too and has turned to trash last game....... Klopp out?!?  ::)
No, no, one of the others
Don't you remember, Klopp doesn't know how to coach defense, ergo, he's not responsible for that aspect...
although, he is responsible for morale (hugs, etc), and I've been spotting a few sour faces in pre-season....so..

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4206 on: September 17, 2020, 08:42:14 AM »
Bloody achterberg!

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4207 on: September 17, 2020, 08:58:41 AM »
Can we just all blame it on Karius, release him from his contract and be done with??
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4208 on: September 17, 2020, 10:27:27 AM »
One thing about keepers and pens, do none of them watch videos anymore? That diving fucker at Utd, after his stupid leap, 7 out of 8 times went to the keepers right and not always with a lot of power. Just watch it and then,when they get the guaranteed penalty, stand fucking still, wait for the leap and when he swings his leg, dive to the right. At least give yourself a chance of saving one.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4209 on: September 17, 2020, 11:08:03 AM »
One thing about keepers and pens, do none of them watch videos anymore? That diving fucker at Utd, after his stupid leap, 7 out of 8 times went to the keepers right and not always with a lot of power. Just watch it and then,when they get the guaranteed penalty, stand fucking still, wait for the leap and when he swings his leg, dive to the right. At least give yourself a chance of saving one.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4210 on: September 17, 2020, 06:15:27 PM »
Well, you know, Alisson apparently went from a World class keeper to a pile of shit. So...........  ;D
Well, have we got rid yet?

Will Kepa be made available? Or that English rock Pickford from across the park; at least he won't have to change house.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4211 on: September 20, 2020, 06:05:27 PM »
We haven't had a clean sheet in any competition since the Stuttgart friendly, and he hasn't saved a Penalty since I can't remember when. I prefer to never criticise our players, as you would see if you were dedicated enough to go through my post history, but surely he is showing a slight dip in form statistically - pretty much since the restart?. I am prepared to accept the unique circumstances, but he still needs to shot stop a bit more and save one penalty this season.

Turns out he’s a decent keeper then.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4212 on: September 20, 2020, 06:05:50 PM »
Well, he fucking well saved that :D

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4213 on: September 20, 2020, 06:06:23 PM »
So he can save penalties. ;D
We won't make any big signings this season and we will go back to being a top4 club.

After every second place finish we failed to capitalise and this year ain't looking much different.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4214 on: September 20, 2020, 06:27:15 PM »
So he can save penalties. ;D
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4215 on: September 20, 2020, 06:27:34 PM »
We haven't had a clean sheet in any competition since the Stuttgart friendly, and he hasn't saved a Penalty since I can't remember when. I prefer to never criticise our players, as you would see if you were dedicated enough to go through my post history, but surely he is showing a slight dip in form statistically - pretty much since the restart?. I am prepared to accept the unique circumstances, but he still needs to shot stop a bit more and save one penalty this season.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4216 on: September 20, 2020, 06:27:43 PM »
Big Ali shut that prick Carra up today.  8)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4217 on: September 20, 2020, 06:28:00 PM »
Shove that one up your arse, Carra.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4218 on: September 20, 2020, 06:28:20 PM »
Happy to eat humble pie on that one today. Jorginho rarely misses but Allison didn't move till late. Fair play he played that brilliantly

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4219 on: September 20, 2020, 06:28:58 PM »
Finally! Also another good save couple minutes later after the penalty.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4220 on: September 20, 2020, 06:31:03 PM »
My expectation level of Alisson saving the pen was somewhere between 0 and -5%.
Best ignore anything I ever say about football to be honest.

Fair play to Thiago to give him a chance to save it though.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4221 on: September 20, 2020, 06:41:47 PM »
Annoyingly good looking.

Decent save too.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4222 on: September 20, 2020, 06:47:54 PM »
He saved a Pen! He finally saved a pen! :D :D :D

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4223 on: September 20, 2020, 06:48:09 PM »
Can we get “Best goalie in the world, Now saves penalties” added to the title?
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4224 on: September 20, 2020, 06:49:31 PM »
Carra comparing him to Mignolet, the daft c***
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4225 on: September 20, 2020, 06:59:06 PM »
Thiago is levels above anyone else, purposely giving away a pen knowing full well that Alisson would save it.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4226 on: September 20, 2020, 07:12:55 PM »
Ali saved a penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's a new feeling for him...

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« Reply #4227 on: September 20, 2020, 08:21:19 PM »
Leans against his post reading the paper for 75 minutes. Saves penalty. Celebrates like a loon. Makes another save. Puts slippers on, gets out the port and cigars, puts his feet up and blows smoke rings for the last 10.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4228 on: September 20, 2020, 08:36:54 PM »
Carra comparing him to Mignolet, the daft c***
:o Really?!

‘Kinell, as comparisons go that’s right up there with the very worst.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4229 on: September 20, 2020, 08:40:00 PM »
Well, we were told he had to save one penalty this season or else. Phew, at least that means we won't be getting rid
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4230 on: September 20, 2020, 08:40:59 PM »
Big Ali shut that prick Carra up today.  8)

Quite the opposite, Mignolet was great at saving pens :P
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4231 on: September 20, 2020, 08:45:01 PM »
Quite the opposite, Mignolet was great at saving pens :P
Ja but he spoilt that by saving another of the sort that Migs wasn't too fond of

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4232 on: September 20, 2020, 09:05:51 PM »
Leans against his post reading the paper for 75 minutes. Saves penalty. Celebrates like a loon. Makes another save. Puts slippers on, gets out the port and cigars, puts his feet up and blows smoke rings for the last 10.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4233 on: September 20, 2020, 09:21:46 PM »
Ali saved a penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's a new feeling for him...

;D

It isn't though in senior matches from 18 penalties he has conceded on 12 occasions. In general penalties have a conversion rate of around 75%. Alisson is way above that.
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« Reply #4234 on: September 20, 2020, 09:26:36 PM »
Went the toilet in the pub and missed the penalty award and the save.

Glad I did. ;D
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« Reply #4235 on: September 20, 2020, 09:26:43 PM »
Quite the opposite, Mignolet was great at saving pens :P

Mignolet has conceded 36 from 49 penalties. Allison has conceded 12 from 18. So Allison has the better record.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4236 on: September 20, 2020, 09:44:10 PM »
:o Really?!

‘Kinell, as comparisons go that’s right up there with the very worst.
Almost as bad as comparing Carragher with Carlos Alberto "bombing down the wing".

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« Reply #4237 on: September 20, 2020, 10:20:56 PM »
The penalties stats are misleading because many pens are too strong for the keeper to save them and a sample size of 30 isnt enough to even those things out.

That being said Mignolet was very good at penalties. His save against Hoffenheim was crucial and it was definetly one of the hidden moments of our rise to the top.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4238 on: September 20, 2020, 10:41:49 PM »
Leans against his post reading the paper for 75 minutes. Saves penalty. Celebrates like a loon. Makes another save. Puts slippers on, gets out the port and cigars, puts his feet up and blows smoke rings for the last 10.
actually made another nice save against Abraham after.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #4239 on: September 20, 2020, 11:17:32 PM »
Alisson on his penalty save

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“I didn’t manage to save any of the penalties against Arsenal and when the goalie doesn’t save any it makes you feel down and think you should do more. This penalty save will give me confidence.”

I worry for opponents if this is a slightly down Ali.   8)