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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2600 on: February 5, 2019, 06:59:36 PM »
I wasn't actually talking to you.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2601 on: February 5, 2019, 07:12:48 PM »
Alisson's Save Percentage per game. Trending slightly downwards, but his peaks are perfect, although he has crashed and burned twice this season (Cardiff, Crystal Palace)


Why does that line have his SV% under 60%. He has saved 51 shots on goal on 66 SOG which is 77.27%

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2602 on: February 5, 2019, 07:22:14 PM »
Why does that line have his SV% under 60%. He has saved 51 shots on goal on 66 SOG which is 77.27%
It's a trend, starting at ~100%, ending at <60%. The average is just under 80%, in agreement with your numbers.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2603 on: February 5, 2019, 07:26:54 PM »
It's a trend, starting at ~100%, ending at <60%. The average is just under 80%, in agreement with your numbers.
Thanks. That makes sense.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2604 on: February 5, 2019, 07:49:48 PM »
Wasn't he saving 20% more than expected this season until the Palace game? Looks like he's reverting to the mean (a bit drastically conceding 7 goals from 11 shots) but we should see a more consistent/improved Ali after this.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2605 on: February 7, 2019, 06:19:40 PM »
The reason he didn't dive for the West Ham goal is that his name isn't Pickford.
Top keepers know where a ball is going and whether they can reach it or not, no point diving if you can't get it - better to stay on your feet ready for any potential rebound.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2606 on: February 7, 2019, 06:28:51 PM »
The reason he didn't dive for the West Ham goal is that his name isn't Pickford.
Top keepers know where a ball is going and whether they can reach it or not, no point diving if you can't get it - better to stay on your feet ready for any potential rebound.
That actually answers my original question, thanks! That goalie approach makes sense.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2607 on: February 7, 2019, 06:34:43 PM »
The reason he didn't dive for the West Ham goal is that his name isn't Pickford.
Top keepers know where a ball is going and whether they can reach it or not, no point diving if you can't get it - better to stay on your feet ready for any potential rebound.
Its more about his physical reaction time. An unsighted keeper might not react to a shot that he could save, because he doesn't see it fast enough. Also depends a lot on reflexes. A keeper like De Gea has outstanding reflexes, so needs less time between seeing the shot and moving his body toward the ball.
Overall I'd say, he is a little off where he was a few weeks ago, factoring in the misjudged pass in the Leicester game, who knows why - although having a very exposed right side is likely a factor.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2608 on: February 8, 2019, 03:26:17 AM »
Alisson's Save Percentage per game. Trending slightly downwards, but his peaks are perfect, although he has crashed and burned twice this season (Cardiff, Crystal Palace)



I think a moving average line or polynomial line would show the fluctuations better as the data set isn’t really linear. It looks like Alisson is deteriorating as the season progresses, even during the periods where his save % was consistent.
« Last Edit: February 8, 2019, 03:32:06 AM by Peabee »
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2609 on: February 8, 2019, 03:31:26 AM »
I think a moving average line would be better as the data set isn’t really linear. It looks like Alisson is deteriorating as the season progresses, even during the periods where his save % was consistent.

The timeline is linear, is it not? It's his performance over time.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2610 on: February 8, 2019, 03:37:52 AM »
The timeline is linear, is it not? It's his performance over time.

A linear trend would be something that’s steadily increasing or decreasing over time, whereas the data fluctuates from game to game between 0% and 100%. Using the average for each month might give a more linear data set.

It doesn’t really matter, I’m just a mathematical pedant.  :D
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2611 on: February 8, 2019, 03:44:25 AM »
A linear trend would be something that’s steadily increasing or decreasing over time, whereas the data fluctuates from game to game between 0% and 100%. Using the average for each month might give a more linear data set.

It doesn’t really matter, I’m just a mathematical pedant.  :D

There are 25 games, would a 5-game breakdown work?
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2612 on: February 8, 2019, 04:02:32 AM »
If so, here it is - still a downward trend:

« Last Edit: February 8, 2019, 04:24:27 AM by PhaseOfPlay »
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2613 on: February 8, 2019, 04:03:08 AM »
There are 25 games, would a 5-game breakdown work?

For the moving average? Try three or five games, see how that looks. I think that might give a better indication of “form” as a trend.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2614 on: February 8, 2019, 04:09:33 AM »
The moving average line would be the trend line rather than the linear one, if you get my drift, and try it for rolling three or five games (for 5 games, there’d be 20 points starting from game 5 for the trend line. That’s why i suggested try 3 games also, so there isn’t such a lag).
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2615 on: February 8, 2019, 04:11:08 AM »
The moving average line would be the trend line rather than the linear one, if you get my drift, and try it for rolling three or five games (for 5 games, there’d be 20 points starting from game 5 for the trend line. That’s why i suggested try 3 games also, so there isn’t such a lag).

Not to keep you awake, but the lines might say "Linear", but they are the Trend lines according to Excel.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2616 on: February 8, 2019, 07:32:29 AM »
Can we just appreciate how good the West Ham goal was. Saw it on highlights and I clapped. If Barcelona had scored that...

At no point was I thinking he should have saved that.

Really happy with him as I know most of is are. Of those seven goals he has comced d in 11 shots how many were what you would howlers?

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2617 on: February 9, 2019, 05:04:37 PM »
Alisson has 14 clean sheets that makes him winning the golden glove easily i reckon

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2618 on: February 9, 2019, 05:27:14 PM »
City (2) and Palace (3) are the only teams who have put more than 1 past our defence in the league this season.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2619 on: February 9, 2019, 05:44:27 PM »
Another clean sheet and a decent save to boot.

Had the shot near the end covered as well although it went wide in the end

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2620 on: February 9, 2019, 05:48:30 PM »
Another clean sheet and a decent save to boot.

Had the shot near the end covered as well although it went wide in the end

Was a save you'd expect him to make tbf.

Huge presence in our side though

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2621 on: February 9, 2019, 05:53:37 PM »
Was a save you'd expect him to make tbf.

Huge presence in our side though

The big difference between the previous long-term first choice keepers though:

2010's Reina - only saved what you'd expect him to save.
Mignolet - could save anything, yet could also concede anything.

Alisson saves both what you'd expect him to save and pulls crazy stops as well. That's what makes him a class above other keepers that are either or.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2622 on: February 9, 2019, 10:52:58 PM »
That shot still looked brutally hard and fast on the slow motion replay. Not seen a hit like that for a while! Was a really good save.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2623 on: February 10, 2019, 12:35:17 AM »
Not to keep you awake, but the lines might say "Linear", but they are the Trend lines according to Excel.

Which version are you using? I thought Excel gave options for linear, polynomial, power, exp, log, moving average.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2624 on: February 10, 2019, 09:34:01 AM »
That's what makes him a class above other keepers that are either or.
What makes him a class above every other 'keeper in the league is that he combines that immense shotstopping talent with immense footballing talent to. He's like Edrerson and De Gea combined, only far better looking.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2625 on: February 14, 2019, 10:37:48 AM »
What makes him a class above every other 'keeper in the league is that he combines that immense shotstopping talent with immense footballing talent to. He's like Edrerson and De Gea combined, only far better looking.

Plus he plays the guitar like Jimi Hendrix. I love this guy to be honest. He's up there with Van Dijk as my favourite LFC player right now.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2626 on: February 14, 2019, 01:33:46 PM »
Plus he plays the guitar like Jimi Hendrix. I love this guy to be honest. He's up there with Van Dijk as my favourite LFC player right now.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2627 on: February 14, 2019, 03:09:30 PM »
Really, I'd take 2 or 3 costly mistakes over 26 Games. 

Weird situations are a part of the game (one being a casual robbery at Leicester and a few others being about vision/reaction saves).
The injuries to our back line and wing backs in no small way has contributed as well. 

Truthfully, I am glad to have a few pieces to learn from (i.e. Naby getting picked by Noble releasing Antonio will be a part of our memory banks for a while --- Sturridge turning off on Lamela at Spurs another).

The trend for Alisson though is by no means destiny, but please do your worst to challenge this notion!

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2628 on: February 14, 2019, 05:53:18 PM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Lx89vb-zdNI" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Lx89vb-zdNI</a>

Feat. Jamie Webster singing like Shakira and Allison Ramses Becker singing soothing Brazilian guitar melodies to send your kids to bed.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2629 on: February 14, 2019, 06:22:56 PM »
Imagine if he took a liking to your wife, you’d have no fucking chance.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2630 on: February 14, 2019, 06:25:37 PM »
Wow his English is amazing!

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2631 on: February 14, 2019, 06:26:00 PM »
Alisson has spoken...we need to be singing Sim not Si on Bobby's song! ;D
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2632 on: February 14, 2019, 07:12:56 PM »
Plus he plays the guitar like Jimi Hendrix. I love this guy to be honest. He's up there with Van Dijk as my favourite LFC player right now.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2633 on: February 15, 2019, 12:50:33 AM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Lx89vb-zdNI" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Lx89vb-zdNI</a>

Feat. Jamie Webster singing like Shakira and Allison Ramses Becker singing soothing Brazilian guitar melodies to send your kids to bed.

Brilliant!

Funny how Alisson pronounces karaoke right the first time, Jamie says it wrong and Alisson subsequently pronounces it wrong (maybe thinking he got it wrong the first time?)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2634 on: February 15, 2019, 09:37:55 AM »
He's one cool cat.

His english is fantastic aswell.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2635 on: February 15, 2019, 10:52:57 AM »
Imagine if he took a liking to your wife, you’d have no fucking chance.

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« Reply #2636 on: February 15, 2019, 11:25:56 AM »
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

If there was one person who you wouldn't mind your wife having an affair with it would be him  8)

if I came home to allison in bed with my wife I'd ask him to phone Virgil to see if he wanted to pop round too.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2637 on: February 15, 2019, 11:31:04 AM »
if I came home to allison in bed with my wife I'd ask him to phone Virgil to see if he wanted to pop round too.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2638 on: February 15, 2019, 12:18:33 PM »
if I came home to allison in bed with my wife I'd ask him to phone Virgil to see if he wanted to pop round too.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alisson Ramses Becker
« Reply #2639 on: February 15, 2019, 12:25:54 PM »
if I came home to allison in bed with my wife I'd ask him to phone Virgil to see if he wanted to pop round too.

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