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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #80 on: July 13, 2018, 09:34:01 PM »
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #81 on: July 13, 2018, 09:34:22 PM »
As a squad player pushing for a start a very good signing. If he is the only creative player we bring in to replace Coutinho then MEH.
Did you really feel we suffered a lot since Coutinho left? If anything ball movement has been much better.

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« Reply #82 on: July 13, 2018, 09:34:24 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: July 13, 2018, 09:35:08 PM »
Did you really feel we suffered a lot since Coutinho left? If anything ball movement has been much better.

That's because Coutinho took all the tight fitting spandex with him to Barca
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2018, 09:35:14 PM »
Did you really feel we suffered a lot since Coutinho left? If anything ball movement has been much better.

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2018, 09:38:08 PM »
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #86 on: July 13, 2018, 09:38:34 PM »
And yet another player that Klopp has known going years back.  The odds are in his favour to be a success here!

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #87 on: July 13, 2018, 09:40:24 PM »
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2018, 09:41:01 PM »
Did you really feel we suffered a lot since Coutinho left? If anything ball movement has been much better.

The ball movement may of improved but our ability to win games when we had 60-70% possession diminished. We lacked creativity against a low block. Shaqiri should be a great option off the bench but unlike Coutinho he is unlikely to be a core starting player.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #89 on: July 13, 2018, 09:41:59 PM »
To be fair, he does take a lot of long range shots.


I replied to someone on this before.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=340364.msg16116739#msg16116739

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Shots Outside the box per 90 in the Premier League in 2017/18:-
Coutinho 3,1
Pedro 2,1
De Bruyne 2,1
A.Sanchez 2,1
Pogba 1,9
Stanislas 1,9
Erikson 1,7
Xhaka 1,6
Shelvey 1,5
Ibe 1,4
Antonio 1,4
Chamberlain 1,3
Richie 1,3
Rashford 1,3
Shaqiri 1,3

Also tactically, you need a long range threat in your side. Which means signing someone who is competent from long range. This forces the opposition to close him down which creates movement in a low block. It's another reason why we struggle without Chamberlain or Coutinho in the side at times against those sides.

Plus it ignores the fact that Shaqiri is a direct set piece taker for his team, which is disingenuous. 0,4 of his shots are from set pieces which reduces his shots from outside the box to 0,9 per game from open play. Does that still sound like something he is doing too much. That he is terribly wasteful? Something he does less than once per game?

Then just looking at shots from outside the box as a standalone metric is disingenuous. Because if it is something you tactically want from your side, then you can't just blindly discourage it across the board. Therefore you need to find a way of valuing the shots a player is taking from there and weighing up whether the player doing so should be discouraged or not. A way to do this would perhaps be to check the shooting accuracy of those players.

Coutinho 31,48%
Pedro 35,71%
De Bruyne 41,49%
A.Sanchez 37,68%
Pogba 23,68%
Stanislas 44,44%
Erikson 40,21%
Xhaka 25,76%
Shelvey 21,43%
Ibe 31,48%
Antonio 44,12%
Chamberlain 39,47%
Richie 27,12%
Rashford 34,43%
Shaqiri 46,38%

So it seems out of the 15 non-forward players who take the most long shots in the Premier League, Shaqiri has the best shot on target ratio. But is he effective with his long range shooting? Let's look at the ratio of long shots to goals for the players.

Coutinho 9,8 Shots per Goal
Pedro 12 SpG
De Bruyne 14,4 SpG
A.Sanchez 40 SpG
Pogba 46 SpG
Stanislas 27 SpG
Erikson 31 SpG
Xhaka 58 SpG
Shelvey 37 SpG
Ibe 32 SpG
Antonio 0 goals in 21 shots
Chamberlain 22 SpG
Richie 42 SpG
Rashford 0 goals in 26 shots
Shaqiri 8,8 SpG

Okay, so he has the best ratio of shots from outside the box to goals from outside the box in the Premier League. He also gets most of his shots on target from that selection of players too. So anybody painting his shooting as either wasteful, ineffective or "too frequent" really needs to get their facts right.

All the above is based on whoscored.com rather than using data I have download to make sure it is verifiable to all
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2018, 09:43:27 PM »
Welcome to the family Shaq.
Only question..........
Where is the lean?

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2018, 09:44:13 PM »
Did Gini know him previously?
They look like old friends reunited 🤩

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2018, 09:44:19 PM »
Welcome to the family Shaq.
Only question..........
Where is the lean?

he's leaning on Gini in that photo above your post, that'll do  :P
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2018, 09:45:14 PM »
Welcome to the family Shaq.
Only question..........
Where is the lean?
Right above you. He is leaning on Gini. He's taking it to a whole new level.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #95 on: July 13, 2018, 09:46:05 PM »
I'm disgusted this thread isn't called Enter Shaqiri.

He is a bit of a Juggernaut, isn't he? Hopefully he can help bring the title back to the Mothership.


Welcome to Liverpool, Xherdan. Handy little player.



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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #96 on: July 13, 2018, 09:46:54 PM »
Excited about this signing ;)

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« Reply #97 on: July 13, 2018, 09:47:19 PM »
Love this signing. Quality rotation option and shows how much stronger our squad is becoming.


And FINALLY one of the fabled rumours signs. Arda Turan or Simao next?!

Oh and...
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« Reply #98 on: July 13, 2018, 09:48:19 PM »
This photo makes me happy.

It is all in that elbow positioning. He has got good positional sense I can tell.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #99 on: July 13, 2018, 09:48:39 PM »
Did Gini know him previously?
They look like old friends reunited 🤩
He walked in the locker room, sat down and then almost jumped in shock "Wow I didn't see you with all that red on. They weren't joking when they said you are invisible". Then they both laughed at the suggestion because it's absolutely fucking ridiculous.
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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2018, 09:49:05 PM »
Have anyone's initials ever seemed more apt?

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #101 on: July 13, 2018, 09:51:00 PM »
Have anyone's initials ever seemed more apt?

I hope when he goes on in one game to give Mane a break, the telly screen says:

Out: SM
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« Reply #102 on: July 13, 2018, 09:51:45 PM »
At that price it goes a long way to negating what we lost on Can
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« Reply #103 on: July 13, 2018, 09:53:22 PM »
He walked in the locker room, sat down and then almost jumped in shock "Wow I didn't see you with all that red on. They weren't joking when they said you are invisible". Then they both laughed at the suggestion because it's absolutely fucking ridiculous.

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« Reply #104 on: July 13, 2018, 09:53:23 PM »
Welcome Xherdan!! No brainer of a signing as Klopp said, excellent value, bags of talent with plenty of room to improve under Klopp too. Best cube we've ever signed.

Hope he enjoys years of success with us!

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« Reply #105 on: July 13, 2018, 09:53:52 PM »
opposition fans will hate him he has some Suarez style nastiness should be fun

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« Reply #106 on: July 13, 2018, 09:54:37 PM »
He's still taller than me. This makes me sad. But, seeing him in those photos makes me happy again.
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« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2018, 09:54:42 PM »


Oh and...


Haha, that goal was my first thought too. I look forward to seeing  his smug, arm crossed goal celebration in a red shirt in front of a fuming Gladdy


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« Reply #108 on: July 13, 2018, 09:56:40 PM »
Another added bonus is, if we ever play Barca, Piqué will be really confused as to how to handle him 🤔😁

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« Reply #109 on: July 13, 2018, 09:57:14 PM »
Interesting that Klopp references him allowing more flexibility up front. Suggests Salah getting plenty of run outs centrally.
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« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2018, 09:57:41 PM »
Did Gini know him previously?
They look like old friends reunited 🤩

video: https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1017874852944973824
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« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2018, 09:58:07 PM »
"You wanna play footy like that" .....

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« Reply #112 on: July 13, 2018, 10:00:02 PM »
Love his attitude, welcome Xherdan!


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« Reply #113 on: July 13, 2018, 10:00:30 PM »
I replied to someone on this before.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=340364.msg16116739#msg16116739
By any chance do you shots from outside the box as percentage of total shots? Quick maths says Shaqiri is 60% - which you can understand makes people think that's all he can do. That's pretty consistent for him too - his Bundesliga average was 57% over three seasons - although in Pep's first season he got it down to about 41% which suggests it can be coached out of him.

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« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2018, 10:01:52 PM »
Love Gini :)

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Re: Xherdan Shaqiri - Confirmed!
« Reply #115 on: July 13, 2018, 10:02:44 PM »
Have anyone's initials ever seemed more apt?

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« Reply #116 on: July 13, 2018, 10:03:02 PM »
video: https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1017874852944973824
Looks like Gini just being his happy, lovely self!

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« Reply #119 on: July 13, 2018, 10:04:15 PM »
Not going to pretend that I don't have some reservations about his overall contribution because I have. But reading Jurgens comments certainly makes me feel a lot better, and then remembering how much I hated the Ox move last year, reminds me that I am not infallible.