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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15400 on: September 8, 2020, 09:23:06 AM »
I don't think any of that is going to matter for next season with the way the club will be selling tickets, track and trace means that who gets the ticket has to be the person attending.
You can't track and trace when the membership is in the name of someones dog - i imagine anyone wanting to step foot inside Anfield will need to verify

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15401 on: September 8, 2020, 11:39:33 AM »
You can't track and trace when the membership is in the name of someones dog - i imagine anyone wanting to step foot inside Anfield will need to verify

Well they need to get a move on and let us verify then

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15402 on: September 8, 2020, 12:03:11 PM »
There on about restricting indoor gatherings to 6 people again and we are to believe crowds will be allowed back? Can’t see it happening really.

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« Reply #15403 on: September 9, 2020, 11:28:50 AM »
There on about restricting indoor gatherings to 6 people again and we are to believe crowds will be allowed back? Can’t see it happening really.

There's going to be so much uncertainty over the next 6/12 months.  What could be happening next week, could be hit on the head a few weeks after.  Matt Hancock has said he hopes to be able to lift the restriction before Christmas, but couldn't promise it, so it sounds like this new social gathering restriction is going to be here for a while.  I'm sure we'll see a lot of local/regional lock downs in the next 6 months.  The new restrictions are supposed to include both indoor and outdoor gatherings.

Will it effect people attending games?  Who knows, Borris might clarify the exceptions later as there are to be a few.

One thing for sure is they need to get a reliable track and trace system in place, have the ability to prove who is attending the game is actually that person and have some system in place for people entering and leaving the ground so that it's not all at the same time (Although a lot of people in the Kenny and Main stand tend to leave from about 75mins anyway ;)).

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15404 on: September 9, 2020, 12:18:38 PM »
Boris couldn't clarify a fucking turd

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15405 on: September 9, 2020, 04:35:43 PM »
Think we can forget fans coming back in october.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15406 on: September 9, 2020, 04:39:13 PM »
Agreed. It's the hope that kills you!

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15407 on: September 9, 2020, 04:54:56 PM »
The positive I do take from what Boris is saying is that the time between partial capacity and full capacity may not be as long as we think. If we do get mass testing up and running, then people going to mass gatherings will be some of the first people to be taking part in a mass testing programme (this is what is happening in Salford). If we are all tested the day before the game, then by the sounds of what Boris is saying the government believes the risk is small enough to let people go into the ground and not social distance. Anyway the big caveat to this is that this is a very optimistic plan.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15408 on: September 9, 2020, 05:12:31 PM »
The positive I do take from what Boris is saying is that the time between partial capacity and full capacity may not be as long as we think. If we do get mass testing up and running, then people going to mass gatherings will be some of the first people to be taking part in a mass testing programme (this is what is happening in Salford). If we are all tested the day before the game, then by the sounds of what Boris is saying the government believes the risk is small enough to let people go into the ground and not social distance. Anyway the big caveat to this is that this is a very optimistic plan.

They have Just said on bbc news that this wouldn’t be ready till the spring Apparently. 

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15409 on: September 9, 2020, 05:44:08 PM »
They have Just said on bbc news that this wouldn’t be ready till the spring Apparently. 

If we are at full capacity any time this season that is probably earlier than most people expect. Anyway, I think we may have some form of mass testing before spring, as I think Boris was saying that mass testing of the entire population won't be ready before Spring, but mass testing of people attending theatres and other entertainment venues (not large stadiums though) may happen earlier, as this is a much smaller scale. I guess after that the next step would be people attending sporting events and other events in stadiums, before mass testing is carried out on the whole population.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15410 on: September 9, 2020, 06:37:40 PM »
Pretty much everything the government has promised with a rough date has turned into a shambles or been delayed a fair amount. I'd take 'the spring' with a pinch of salt.

Regardless, it also relies on people voluntarily getting tested (unless the clubs start requiring some sort of health passport) and also avoiding crowds/pubs/whatever full of untested people. There are a lot of selfish bastards and conspiracy theorists in the world who frankly don't give two fucks and would conveniently side-step these requirements but happily turn up to the football unless it was enforced.

Ideal scenario would be mass-testing and contact tracing and those attending the football to be strongly advised to avoid big crowds / other households / the pub / the salon that says covid is a hoax. People will argue it's draconian but it's a public health crisis, your human rights are not being violated.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15411 on: September 10, 2020, 12:49:02 PM »
I had a look at the rules of engagement and there is no point going cus you won't be allowed to sing or shout... For me there is no point now... I'll just wait till I can
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15412 on: September 10, 2020, 01:18:06 PM »
I had a look at the rules of engagement and there is no point going cus you won't be allowed to sing or shout... For me there is no point now... I'll just wait till I can

No singing, shouting or chanting..I can’t see that happening. You’re right though, might as well stay at home. Never get those who go the ground just to just watch, the players prefer vocal support and I like to oblige  ;D

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15413 on: September 10, 2020, 06:56:18 PM »
I had a look at the rules of engagement and there is no point going cus you won't be allowed to sing or shout... For me there is no point now... I'll just wait till I can

Everton fans will be ok they can still boo... ;)

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15414 on: September 10, 2020, 07:05:42 PM »
I had a look at the rules of engagement and there is no point going cus you won't be allowed to sing or shout... For me there is no point now... I'll just wait till I can

That's Scotland. They still have the 2 metre rule unlike England

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15415 on: September 10, 2020, 10:12:48 PM »
That's Scotland. They still have the 2 metre rule unlike England

Scotts canned the weekend games with fans

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15416 on: September 14, 2020, 10:49:53 PM »
Scotts canned the weekend games with fans

300 fans at the Ross County v Celtic game last Saturday.

As part of the protocol, fans have to stay in till the final whistle. That would upset a lot at Anfield!

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15417 on: September 15, 2020, 07:18:53 AM »
300 fans at the Ross County v Celtic game last Saturday.

As part of the protocol, fans have to stay in till the final whistle. That would upset a lot at Anfield!

Did they only cancel some of them?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15418 on: September 15, 2020, 02:03:30 PM »
I can just imagine the club sending those 650 stewards to ur seat every 5min to ask if you want a drink and pukka pie just to get us spending.. But if you try and sing you'll get ejected.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15419 on: September 15, 2020, 02:31:37 PM »
I can just imagine the club sending those 650 stewards to ur seat every 5min to ask if you want a drink and pukka pie just to get us spending.. But if you try and sing you'll get ejected.

Did they ever successfully implement that order to your seat thing a while back? Might actually be a useful service in a reduced capacity stadium.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15420 on: September 16, 2020, 12:14:23 PM »
Did they ever successfully implement that order to your seat thing a while back? Might actually be a useful service in a reduced capacity stadium.

I used it a few times, but with ordering beer still had to go to the booth to pick up.

The app worked but then the start of this year you had to use the website.

Stupid, seeing as you buy a coke, empty coke and pour beer in to take back to your seat.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15421 on: September 22, 2020, 08:11:07 AM »
Confirmation that return of fans next month is off.

Clubs are going to go out of business left right and centre

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« Reply #15422 on: September 22, 2020, 08:29:08 AM »
Confirmation that return of fans next month is off.

Clubs are going to go out of business left right and centre
Dan Roan reporting government asking about the potential impact of no fans for next couple months, kind of what we all saw coming to be honest

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15423 on: September 22, 2020, 08:49:09 AM »
Dan Roan reporting government asking about the potential impact of no fans for next couple months, kind of what we all saw coming to be honest

Yeah, there’s going to have to be some sort of rescue package for most clubs in League 1 and 2.

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« Reply #15424 on: September 22, 2020, 08:57:54 AM »
Would have thought the TV rights would save the top clubs and most championship ones given more games are being aired, with more viewers so more paid in ads...

Defo gonna be a problem for lower league, but we all know the EFL are for lack of a better word, c*nts.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15425 on: September 22, 2020, 10:06:28 AM »
Would have thought the TV rights would save the top clubs and most championship ones given more games are being aired, with more viewers so more paid in ads...

Defo gonna be a problem for lower league, but we all know the EFL are for lack of a better word, c*nts.

You're right, it'll mainly be a lower league problem. Which is where the government should step in with schemes to aid them. Whether they do that, I'm doubtful. At the end of the day football clubs are businesses and any such schemes should be across the board, not just football specific.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15426 on: September 22, 2020, 10:18:18 AM »
Football League clubs have sold season tickets and given free streaming passes to them, with those who don't buy a season ticket needing to pay £10 to watch the stream. Most of these clubs run off season ticket revenue so a lot might be ok.

Bangkok Ladyboys went down a treat ... so probably do them again  ;D ;D


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« Reply #15427 on: September 22, 2020, 11:27:21 AM »
Football League clubs have sold season tickets and given free streaming passes to them, with those who don't buy a season ticket needing to pay £10 to watch the stream. Most of these clubs run off season ticket revenue so a lot might be ok.

Been a big drop off in renewals at most clubs, because in some cases this option isn't really an option for the fans

Example:
Say you have a family of 2/3/4 who all renew season tickets, which lets say average out at £15 a game per person

In return you all get a £10 streaming pass, but now you have 2/3/4 streaming passes for a family only needing 1 pass

So you're spending £30/£45/£60 per home game instead of £10

There's supporting your club, and then there's common sense

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15428 on: September 22, 2020, 11:41:56 AM »
Yeah that's a fair example. I know some who have paid anyway to give their club a chance of surviving beyond this season too.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15429 on: September 22, 2020, 12:11:32 PM »
Saw this yesterday by Colchester: (it only benefits the top supported teams the streaming)

Streaming Revenues
The way it works currently is that the home team keep all of the revenue for the tickets they sell through their own website and they also get the revenue for the first 500 that buy via the away team. For example: for Saturday’s game against Bolton, we sold 452 iFollow passes, (so we keep all of the revenue from those), and Bolton sold 2252 iFollow passes, (of which we get the revenue from the first 500).

This has put a very new aspect on the revenue that is available to clubs this season. Bolton made more money in gate receipts from our home fixture than we did because they had the revenue from 1,752 iFollow passes whereas we had the revenue from 952 iFollow passes. In normal times, we would have expected about £54,000 in home gate receipts from this fixture but we will receive just shy of £8,000, whereas Bolton would have expected about £600 for the 5% commission we pay them but will have received about £14,000 more than that.

We sold just over 300 streams for the away game against Bradford, so we earnt £0.00 for that away game and I expect that to be the case for every away game this season. So based on twenty three away games, Bolton look set to receive about £345,000 from the streaming of their away games this season whilst we can look forward to approximately £0.00.

Perhaps these facts might help some of you that think we should still be in the Championship understand what we are up against.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15430 on: September 22, 2020, 12:16:34 PM »
That's absolutely horrific!

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« Reply #15431 on: September 22, 2020, 12:31:21 PM »
That's actually disgusting if its split that way...

EFL need to do something other than line their own pockets, no doubt the clubs that get in trouble will be hit with fines and points deductions...

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15432 on: September 22, 2020, 01:25:22 PM »
That specky turnip looking twat Gove reckons latest restrictions could be in place for 6 months.

I think this season is a write-off spectator wise now.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15433 on: September 25, 2020, 04:48:28 PM »
@LFCHelp
From Monday 28th September, the Ticket Office phone lines and windows will be closed until further notice.

Grim.

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« Reply #15434 on: September 25, 2020, 05:34:38 PM »
@LFCHelp
From Monday 28th September, the Ticket Office phone lines and windows will be closed until further notice.

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What have they actually been doing up until now?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15435 on: September 26, 2020, 10:47:55 AM »
Anyone had a new card? Someone I work with said he'd got a new members card this week?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15436 on: September 26, 2020, 11:52:12 AM »
No, I got a piece of cardboard welcoming my renewal but no new card.
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« Reply #15437 on: September 26, 2020, 12:06:20 PM »

What have they actually been doing up until now?
Validating all the ST checks?
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« Reply #15438 on: September 26, 2020, 01:39:01 PM »
Anyone had a new card? Someone I work with said he'd got a new members card this week?

Will we get a new card?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15439 on: September 26, 2020, 03:43:40 PM »
Last I heard 3 weeks ago, 2 people were working in the ticket office itself and the rest remotely. As a result, no new cards were being sent out.