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« Reply #14560 on: May 27, 2020, 02:30:04 PM »
Me neither, but they only announced it yesterday and said they will be in touch within 14 days so might have a wait yet.

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« Reply #14561 on: May 27, 2020, 02:33:17 PM »
Talking about Everton mate

You'd still get that refund through Liverpool though wouldn't you? That's what the announcement yesterday seemed to indicate anyway

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« Reply #14562 on: May 27, 2020, 02:33:29 PM »
How this is a good idea?  They can keep the credit for the last 4 games, but if they decide not to do that, 15 games are enough to decide. They can just lower the credits or the next season (+10 or +11).
I bought for my 8 years old son 17 tickets this season (I didnt buy the ticket just fo Everton and Chelsea) Some in the bulk sale, some in the  local sale and I even spent loads of money for few hospitality. 2 years ago he didnt have any because he was too young. Why should  he miss out next season?

It's these individual scenarios which are the difficulty, as there's going to be a lot of them. That said, with Fan Update hopefully trimming down the 13+ numbers, people like your son might be in a better position anyway.
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« Reply #14563 on: May 27, 2020, 02:45:33 PM »
You'd still get that refund through Liverpool though wouldn't you? That's what the announcement yesterday seemed to indicate anyway

I am talking about an Everton home end one, they have neither contacted or refunded me.
Regarding this....

You say administrative nightmare, but again, Everton are doing it just fine.

We need to stop making excuses for our TO's shoddy work.

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« Reply #14564 on: May 27, 2020, 02:46:39 PM »
I am talking about an Everton home end one, they have neither contacted or refunded me.
Regarding this....


I see. What a set of bastards.

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« Reply #14565 on: May 27, 2020, 03:23:23 PM »
It's these individual scenarios which are the difficulty, as there's going to be a lot of them. That said, with Fan Update hopefully trimming down the 13+ numbers, people like your son might be in a better position anyway.

He's already on +17, and even withouth the last 4 games, he will be on +14 anyway. I don't think it'll be fair if he misses out next season. I don't get it why they should count credits from 2 years ago, as someone suggested in this post

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« Reply #14566 on: May 27, 2020, 03:40:55 PM »
He's already on +17, and even withouth the last 4 games, he will be on +14 anyway. I don't think it'll be fair if he misses out next season. I don't get it why they should count credits from 2 years ago, as someone suggested in this post

There will be a lot of members already on 13+ for this season, even with the 4 missing games. I can't see why they would change the criteria or even lower the number for when we can buy tickets again.
The following season would have to have the criteria changed, or lowered, because there will more than likely be less games that you would have been able to attend from the previous season.

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« Reply #14567 on: May 27, 2020, 03:59:46 PM »
He's already on +17, and even withouth the last 4 games, he will be on +14 anyway. I don't think it'll be fair if he misses out next season. I don't get it why they should count credits from 2 years ago, as someone suggested in this post

So you think its fair that you get to cheat a queue by buying hospitality tickets to get him over the 13+ requirement?

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« Reply #14568 on: May 27, 2020, 04:07:35 PM »
So you think its fair that you get to cheat a queue by buying hospitality tickets to get him over the 13+ requirement?

I got for him 2 hospitality, I bought the rest on the bulk sale and a couple of tickets in the local sale. How is this cheating? He would be on +15 anyway, even without the hospitality.

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« Reply #14569 on: May 27, 2020, 04:11:56 PM »
I got for him 2 hospitality, I bought the rest on the bulk sale and a couple of tickets in the local sale. How is this cheating? He would be on +15 anyway, even without the hospitality.

So take the 4 games off at he gets to 14 so that 2 has taken him over the threshold.

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« Reply #14570 on: May 27, 2020, 04:32:30 PM »
So take the 4 games off at he gets to 14 so that 2 has taken him over the threshold.

What the hell are you on about? First of all, he only has 3 tickets out of 4 for the end of the seasons and not 4. But beside that, does it matter if it's hospitality or not? He's been to the match, why shouldn't count as a credit. You sound a bit bitter mate

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« Reply #14571 on: May 27, 2020, 04:37:37 PM »
Bitter about what? I've had 19 on my card for about 4 seasons now. Hospitality credits should only count for hospitality and not general admission tickets and anyone using hospitality to get on the general admission sales is cheating all those who haven't spent loads of money to get on it.

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« Reply #14572 on: May 27, 2020, 04:50:20 PM »
Bitter about what? I've had 19 on my card for about 4 seasons now. Hospitality credits should only count for hospitality and not general admission tickets and anyone using hospitality to get on the general admission sales is cheating all those who haven't spent loads of money to get on it.

Just wright the letter to the club if you're not happy about the credits for the hospitality. As I said, my kid has got 17 credits and even withouth the hospitality it will be on +15, and by the way I never bought an hospitality ticket for the credit, one was for his birthday and the other one, the club put the hospitality at half price the day before the Arsenal game, so I decided to buy it cos he loves going to the match. I could understand what are you saying but my son hasnt cheated no one
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« Reply #14573 on: May 27, 2020, 05:02:30 PM »
So you think its fair that you get to cheat a queue by buying hospitality tickets to get him over the 13+ requirement?

How is that cheating? It's the club who set the criteria and he's done nothing wrong.

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« Reply #14574 on: May 27, 2020, 05:06:28 PM »
The club could have spared us all of this nonsense if they had just engaged their brains for once and made a decision about the credits and released that info in the communication about the refunds.

Ultimately whatever they do will end up pissing someone off, I just hope it isn't me. The people calling for loyalty to be based off more than one seasons worth of games only do so because it won't impact them.

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« Reply #14575 on: May 27, 2020, 05:33:28 PM »
How this is a good idea?  They can keep the credit for the last 4 games, but if they decide not to do that, 15 games are enough to decide. They can just lower the credits or the next season (+10 or +11).
I bought for my 8 years old son 17 tickets this season (I didnt buy the ticket just fo Everton and Chelsea) Some in the bulk sale, some in the  local sale and I even spent loads of money for few hospitality. 2 years ago he didnt have any because he was too young. Why should  he miss out next season?

Definitely agree mate. I'm in the same boat, this season managed to get 16 tickets out of 19 and attended 13/15 games.
In my view 15 matches are enough for making a sale scale next season

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« Reply #14576 on: May 27, 2020, 05:52:24 PM »
The club could have spared us all of this nonsense if they had just engaged their brains for once and made a decision about the credits and released that info in the communication about the refunds.

Ultimately whatever they do will end up pissing someone off, I just hope it isn't me. The people calling for loyalty to be based off more than one seasons worth of games only do so because it won't impact them.

Yours - a member of 10 years, with 12 credits from this season (13 if you count Villa) and 6 from the season before. No guesses for what I want to happen but more than anything else I'd just like the club to put is all out of our misery  :wave

It's going to be a year or so before anyone is allowed at a game. Given the fact nobody knows exactly when fans will be allowed back to games, how do you expect them to release details of how they'll implement selling criteria?

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« Reply #14577 on: May 27, 2020, 05:54:35 PM »
How this is a good idea?  They can keep the credit for the last 4 games, but if they decide not to do that, 15 games are enough to decide. They can just lower the credits or the next season (+10 or +11).
I bought for my 8 years old son 17 tickets this season (I didnt buy the ticket just fo Everton and Chelsea) Some in the bulk sale, some in the  local sale and I even spent loads of money for few hospitality. 2 years ago he didnt have any because he was too young. Why should  he miss out next season?

Just because it isnt fair on you as an individual, it doesn't mean it isnt a good idea. There will be literally hundreds of people that wont be happy regardless of whatever decision is made. It's simply impossible that everyone will be satisfied.

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« Reply #14578 on: May 27, 2020, 06:05:47 PM »
It's going to be a year or so before anyone is allowed at a game. Given the fact nobody knows exactly when fans will be allowed back to games, how do you expect them to release details of how they'll implement selling criteria?

Yeah that's a fair comment. They could have commented on the credits relating to games being played behind closed doors bit mind.

Dunno. Just want an answer really so I can get on with my life.
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« Reply #14579 on: May 27, 2020, 06:09:37 PM »
Just because it isnt fair on you as an individual, it doesn't mean it isnt a good idea. There will be literally hundreds of people that wont be happy regardless of whatever decision is made. It's simply impossible that everyone will be satisfied.

I know that not everyone will be satisfiesd, no matter if you give the credits or not for the last 4 games. But in case they won't, 15 are enough to make a decision for how many credits you need for next year. I could understant to take into consideration the season that we played 2 years ago if we would have played 3 or 4 for games but not if we've played 75% of our home games

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« Reply #14580 on: May 27, 2020, 06:14:32 PM »
I know that not everyone will be satisfiesd, no matter if you give the credits or not for the last 4 games. But in case they won't, 15 are enough to make a decision for how many credits you need for next year. I could understant to take into consideration the season that we played 2 years ago if we would have played 3 or 4 for games but not if we've played 75% of our home games

It might be enough, it might not be. No one knows.

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« Reply #14581 on: May 27, 2020, 06:18:09 PM »
Just because it isnt fair on you as an individual, it doesn't mean it isnt a good idea. There will be literally hundreds of people that wont be happy regardless of whatever decision is made. It's simply impossible that everyone will be satisfied.

I think that 10+ for the first step of members sale would be quite fair for both historic members with criteria and those who could get full credits only this year. But obviously every kind of decision can be criticised

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« Reply #14582 on: May 27, 2020, 06:20:41 PM »
How is that cheating? It's the club who set the criteria and he's done nothing wrong.


its not cheating but I can see where hes coming from as its a different class of ticket and the loyalty should be based on the class of ticket

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« Reply #14583 on: May 27, 2020, 06:27:35 PM »
I think that 10+ for the first step of members sale would be quite fair for both historic members with criteria and those who could get full credits only this year. But obviously every kind of decision can be criticised

We've no idea how many members have 10+. If 5k is held over for the guaranteed sale, they need to make a decision based on the lowest they can go to to guarantee everyone a ticket. That could even be 14 given that its possible more people are on 13 now than last season.
Regardless, we're likely months away from having any information about sales criteria for when supporters are allowed back in the stadium.

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« Reply #14584 on: May 27, 2020, 07:10:58 PM »
We've no idea how many members have 10+. If 5k is held over for the guaranteed sale, they need to make a decision based on the lowest they can go to to guarantee everyone a ticket. That could even be 14 given that its possible more people are on 13 now than last season.
Regardless, we're likely months away from having any information about sales criteria for when supporters are allowed back in the stadium.

Been at least 70% of the tickets sold in the first sale (13+) in the last 2-3 seasons. The 50% did only apply on the first 1-2 seasons!

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« Reply #14585 on: May 27, 2020, 07:24:19 PM »
We've no idea how many members have 10+. If 5k is held over for the guaranteed sale, they need to make a decision based on the lowest they can go to to guarantee everyone a ticket. That could even be 14 given that its possible more people are on 13 now than last season.
Regardless, we're likely months away from having any information about sales criteria for when supporters are allowed back in the stadium.
do you actually think there's a couple thousand on 10-13, especially considering some of the late sales have been torture, it'll be a couple hundred at most and all would've been accommodated had they got to 13, the fact thats been taken away from them isn't fair

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« Reply #14586 on: May 27, 2020, 07:25:21 PM »
its not cheating but I can see where hes coming from as its a different class of ticket and the loyalty should be based on the class of ticket
it's not cheating because the club allow it but in theory they really shouldn't

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« Reply #14587 on: May 27, 2020, 07:26:04 PM »
Ahhh Ive missed arguments over theoretical sale and credit criteria.

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« Reply #14588 on: May 27, 2020, 07:26:40 PM »
I think that 10+ for the first step of members sale would be quite fair for both historic members with criteria and those who could get full credits only this year. But obviously every kind of decision can be criticised
the issue is that if they don't give credits for the last 4 there will be people who might have 9 but had the last 4, thats why 9 seems like a reasonable number but it all depends on the actual ticket figures which no one even has a clue on

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« Reply #14589 on: May 27, 2020, 07:27:23 PM »
Ahhh Ive missed arguments over theoretical sale and credit criteria.
I can see this going round and round in circles for the next couple months, we won't know for ages

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« Reply #14590 on: May 27, 2020, 07:33:53 PM »
it's not cheating because the club allow it but in theory they really shouldn't
yup, them the rules as they say but theyre shit rules and I cant blame anyone for taking advantage of it if they can afford some corporates as the hassle of getting tickets is a massive arse

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« Reply #14591 on: May 27, 2020, 07:55:08 PM »
I can see this going round and round in circles for the next couple months, we won't know for ages

Exactly. This is the thing doing my head in more than anything.

At least with the constant refreshing you felt like you were building towards an outcome. This waiting around is a right ballache
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« Reply #14592 on: May 27, 2020, 08:14:56 PM »
do you actually think there's a couple thousand on 10-13, especially considering some of the late sales have been torture, it'll be a couple hundred at most and all would've been accommodated had they got to 13, the fact thats been taken away from them isn't fair

As I said, we've no idea how many people are on 10+. There is no guarantee any single one of them would've got any more tickets to take them to 13.
Isn't fair? A few hundred thousand people dying over the last 6 months isn't fair. Some people will lose out on being guaranteed tickets. Boo fucking hoo. They're still alive aren't they?

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« Reply #14593 on: May 27, 2020, 08:23:08 PM »
Alright, no-ones comparing getting tickets to people dying ffs

Chill it out

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« Reply #14594 on: May 27, 2020, 08:24:59 PM »
Alright, no-ones comparing getting tickets to people dying ffs

Chill it out

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« Reply #14595 on: May 27, 2020, 08:25:41 PM »
yup, them the rules as they say but theyre shit rules and I cant blame anyone for taking advantage of it if they can afford some corporates as the hassle of getting tickets is a massive arse
spot on, club should close this avenue soon

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« Reply #14596 on: May 27, 2020, 08:26:02 PM »
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« Reply #14597 on: May 27, 2020, 08:27:44 PM »
As I said, we've no idea how many people are on 10+. There is no guarantee any single one of them would've got any more tickets to take them to 13.
Isn't fair? A few hundred thousand people dying over the last 6 months isn't fair. Some people will lose out on being guaranteed tickets. Boo fucking hoo. They're still alive aren't they?
fucking come off it mate, if you were in my situation on 12 and having to decide where to live the rest of your life, you'd be fighting this argument too, no one is talking about life and death here ffs, tickets kers are so hard to come by, reaching the guaranteed number is a ticket for life too, it means a fucking lot

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« Reply #14598 on: May 27, 2020, 08:30:03 PM »
Exactly. This is the thing doing my head in more than anything.

At least with the constant refreshing you felt like you were building towards an outcome. This waiting around is a right ballache
yes there was always a new game coming up or something new happening, with this it's just a waiting game until well we really don't know

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« Reply #14599 on: May 27, 2020, 08:34:54 PM »
fucking come off it mate, if you were in my situation on 12 and having to decide where to live the rest of your life, you'd be fighting this argument too, no one is talking about life and death here ffs, tickets kers are so hard to come by, reaching the guaranteed number is a ticket for life too, it means a fucking lot

I certainly wouldn't be making a decision on where to live for the rest of my life based on whether I can watch a game of football.
Thousands of people have died because of a global pandemic, and you're saying it's not fair that you didn't get the opportunity to get a ticket to a game of football. It's ridiculous.