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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12440 on: January 28, 2020, 02:29:09 PM »
Just got this via email.

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As part of LFC’s ongoing commitment to improving the process of buying tickets, the Club is reviewing the ticket sales process currently in place for the twice-yearly Member sales.

As part of these improvements we would value your feedback and would appreciate if you could complete this survey to give your views.

Your feedback will help to inform ongoing discussions within the Club and consultation with the Fans’ Forum.

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The Club is exploring removing the ‘1st come 1st served’ sales for matches where the Club cannot guarantee that tickets will be available to all that apply, and introducing a ballot process as the alternative.

Sales where Members are guaranteed a ticket based on the number of games recorded in the previous season would remain unchanged, ie. In 2019/20 the sales that were in place for Members with 13+ games.

 

How it would work

Those Members not guaranteed a ticket would be able register for the ballot for every game they wish to attend.There would be two ballot registration periods, one for games to be played up to 31 December, the other for all remaining games until the end of the season.  Both registration periods would take place well in advance of each ticket sale, a minimum of 2 weeks prior.In each registration period, there would be separate ballots for selected matches based on eligibility criteria , ie the 2019/20 sale in place to Members with 4+ games, and the sale in place to all Members.Members would be randomly selected via an independent ballot process undertaken by Civica Election Services, (formerly Electoral Reform Services), who the Club used for last season’s cup final ticketing ballots.Those successful in the ballots would be guaranteed a ticket.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12441 on: January 28, 2020, 02:32:14 PM »
Right thing to do imo, hopefully I will be at the guaranteed number for next season though.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12442 on: January 28, 2020, 02:37:03 PM »
Probably makes life a bit fairer but there will be 10s of thousands if not more in the ballot for a small number of tickets.

No system will be perfect or please everyone though and it would beat sitting pressing F5 all season!

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12443 on: January 28, 2020, 02:37:21 PM »
Rather be the ballot draw then seeing over a hour all the time

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12444 on: January 28, 2020, 02:42:28 PM »
I'd rather not the ballot to be honest, just hope I get to 13 this season and then it doesn't apply to me anyway

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12445 on: January 28, 2020, 02:44:02 PM »
Probably makes life a bit fairer but there will be 10s of thousands if not more in the ballot for a small number of tickets.

No system will be perfect or please everyone though and it would beat sitting pressing F5 all season!
The F5 won't go away, unless they hold another ballot instead of additional sales

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12446 on: January 28, 2020, 02:45:35 PM »
Depends if people are willing to pay their £27 or whatever to enter the ballot, one issue is that people will end up applying for every game in the hope of getting to 13+, I feel setting 500 tickets aside for everygame which go to unique members would be fair

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12447 on: January 28, 2020, 02:46:47 PM »
I don't know how they can do that before doing the fan update for all members though

Otherwise there could be those people with 500 cards entering all of them

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12448 on: January 28, 2020, 02:48:27 PM »
I don't know how they can do that before doing the fan update for all members though

Otherwise there could be those people with 500 cards entering all of them
They can't, I expect a members fan update in June, for those on 4+ and new members

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12449 on: January 28, 2020, 02:49:55 PM »
They can't, I expect a members fan update in June, for those on 4+ and new members

Doesn't give them long, the 13+ process lasted months, and there's far more members not on 13 than are on 13.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12450 on: January 28, 2020, 02:51:54 PM »
Doesn't give them long, the 13+ process lasted months, and there's far more members not on 13 than are on 13.
They could easily do it along aside the ST update to. I feel like they won't because of the potential carnage that is gonna bring. They said they want the ST update done before renewal dates, that still gives a good 2 months really

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12451 on: January 28, 2020, 02:53:11 PM »
I'd rather not the ballot to be honest, just hope I get to 13 this season and then it doesn't apply to me anyway

You need to try to get to 14 or 15, sure it will go up next season.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12452 on: January 28, 2020, 02:54:02 PM »
Appears to be a fairer way for everyone to get a chance of a ticket (not everyone works at a computer all day, so can't f5 all day). It would make it harder for people to work up to 13 or whatever the future threshold will be though due to the randomness of a ballot.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12453 on: January 28, 2020, 02:56:15 PM »
You need to try to get to 14 or 15, sure it will go up next season.
Absolutely no chance it goes past 13 next season.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12454 on: January 28, 2020, 02:56:40 PM »
You need to try to get to 14 or 15, sure it will go up next season.
Not sure, fan update should've knocked a good few off

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12455 on: January 28, 2020, 02:57:47 PM »
Appears to be a fairer way for everyone to get a chance of a ticket (not everyone works at a computer all day, so can't f5 all day). It would make it harder for people to work up to 13 or whatever the future threshold will be though due to the randomness of a ballot.
It would but I think people forget theres loads of people who are happy to only go to 1-2 games a year, not everyone who wants to go is trying to get to 13. Ballot should allow for those who only want a couple games

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12456 on: January 28, 2020, 02:57:57 PM »
Absolutely no chance it goes past 13 next season.

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If they are thinking of introducing a ballot system they might raise it so more tickets are available for it??

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12457 on: January 28, 2020, 02:58:15 PM »
Depends if people are willing to pay their £27 or whatever to enter the ballot, one issue is that people will end up applying for every game in the hope of getting to 13+
I wonder if they will think of a way around this.  What happens for a member who can't afford all games but doesn't mind which they go to?  Would you be able to apply for all but put an order of preference or total amount?

Anything has to be better than "Over an Hour" though so it's good that they are looking at it.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12458 on: January 28, 2020, 02:58:48 PM »
It would but I think people forget theres loads of people who are happy to only go to 1-2 games a year, not everyone who wants to go is trying to get to 13. Ballot should allow for those who only want a couple games
I agree, that's why I think it's a fairer system.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12459 on: January 28, 2020, 02:59:07 PM »
Is it just to replace the bulks?  So additional sales and the F5 club would remain the same?

It would mean me getting 4 mornings of my life back every year, for probably the same result (fuck all) so works for me.

No idea how they would handle multiple tickets, 2 together or 2 singles etc.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12460 on: January 28, 2020, 03:00:02 PM »
Would rather take my own chances than have a ballot to be honest. How would they allocate what stand/seats you got from it? Feels like going back to the days of a random postal application!
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12461 on: January 28, 2020, 03:00:05 PM »
I wonder if they will think of a way around this.  What happens for a member who can't afford all games but doesn't mind which they go to?  Would you be able to apply for all but put an order of preference or total amount?

Anything has to be better than "Over an Hour" though so it's good that they are looking at it.
I am assuming it will be just pick your fixtures, this where I can see people applying for every game just for the sake of it

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12462 on: January 28, 2020, 03:00:29 PM »
I wonder if they will think of a way around this.  What happens for a member who can't afford all games but doesn't mind which they go to?  Would you be able to apply for all but put an order of preference or total amount?

Anything has to be better than "Over an Hour" though so it's good that they are looking at it.

I assume that if you applied for every game to maximise your chances but then couldn't make it, you would then just not take up the option to buy and then it goes to somebody on the waiting list, like what happened for the finals?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12463 on: January 28, 2020, 03:00:34 PM »
Is it just to replace the bulks?  So additional sales and the F5 club would remain the same?

It would mean me getting 4 mornings of my life back every year, for probably the same result (fuck all) so works for me.

No idea how they would handle multiple tickets, 2 together or 2 singles etc.
Yeah just mentions the bulk sales

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12464 on: January 28, 2020, 03:01:40 PM »
It depends how they allocate the ballot. Will they do it so if your application wins you get every game you applied for. Or will it be every game has an individual ballot. 

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12465 on: January 28, 2020, 03:07:31 PM »
You need to try to get to 14 or 15, sure it will go up next season.

Yeah, aiming for 17, although seriously doubt my chances of Chelsea. 16 should be ok.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12466 on: January 28, 2020, 03:09:46 PM »
Just got this via email.


How come everybody hasn't got this

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12467 on: January 28, 2020, 03:11:34 PM »
How come everybody hasn't got this

Yeah, I've not seen it and I definitely want to have my say on it!
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12468 on: January 28, 2020, 03:12:04 PM »
Been any Southampton drops yet today?

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12469 on: January 28, 2020, 03:13:56 PM »
How come everybody hasn't got this
Think it will have come via "Your Voice" that the club send out? Think it is only sent to random selected members, not everyone.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12470 on: January 28, 2020, 03:13:58 PM »
How come everybody hasn't got this
Maybe only sending to a select few, haven't got it myself either

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12471 on: January 28, 2020, 03:14:13 PM »
I've only just had the e-mail (after not having it when I first saw the post in here) so I presume it is slowly working its way round to everyone.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12472 on: January 28, 2020, 03:14:48 PM »
Think it will have come via "Your Voice" that the club send out? Think it is only sent to random selected members, not everyone.
Makes sense I guess, club probably don't have resources to read thousands of responses, some probably very detailed

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12473 on: January 28, 2020, 03:16:08 PM »
Think it will have come via "Your Voice" that the club send out? Think it is only sent to random selected members, not everyone.

So random members get a mail, that could help decide the fate of 1000's that seems fair NOT

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12474 on: January 28, 2020, 03:21:10 PM »
So random members get a mail, that could help decide the fate of 1000's that seems fair NOT
I'd say the majority of people will be on board with this, because the majority of people don't get sorted normally

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12475 on: January 28, 2020, 03:21:40 PM »
So will I only get 16/17 games now?

Will I have to ballot for the other two?

Why not set aside so many tickets each game for a ballot and you get a ticket to one home game a season.

This wont suit everyone...but then there is no answer that will.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12476 on: January 28, 2020, 03:22:12 PM »
Given that it is effectively random now as to whether you are one of the people lucky enough to get on before these tickets sell out, then using a ballot to replace the free-for-all sales is probably not a bad move on balance.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12477 on: January 28, 2020, 03:22:39 PM »
Been any Southampton drops yet today?

No

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12478 on: January 28, 2020, 03:23:11 PM »
So will I only get 16/17 games now?

Will I have to ballot for the other two?

Why not set aside so many tickets each game for a ballot and you get a ticket to one home game a season.

This wont suit everyone...but then there is no answer that will.
That's a good point

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #12479 on: January 28, 2020, 03:23:23 PM »
Just thinking more about this, it's going to mean more people applying for tickets.  The sheer pain in the arse of the process as it is acts as a deterrent for some people.  I definitely know a couple of people that will probably buy a membership and have a punt if it doesn't mean getting up at daft o'clock and firing up 20 browsers.