Author Topic: CIES Top 100 most valuable players (Read 4889 times)

Golden_Child · « **on:** January 8, 2018, 03:24:36 pm »

(Couldn't see a topic made so far but I haven't got my glasses because they're broken. Mods please delete if a duplicate)

Like every January, the CIES Football Observatory has calculated the transfer values of players in the five major European leagues. The assessment takes into account the key criteria used by market actors such as age, position, contract duration, performance, international status, etc. Neymar (€213m) heads the table ahead of Lionel Messi (€202m) and Harry Kane (€195m). The top 100 list is available in issue number 209 of the Weekly Post.

Five players from the English Premier League are in the top ten: Harry Kane (2nd), Dele Alli (6th), Kevin de Bruyne (7th), Romelu Lukaku (8th) and Paul Pogba (10th). However, the highest estimated values for goalkeepers and defenders were recorded for two FC Barcelona’s players: Marc-André ter Stegen (€96m) and Samuel Umtiti (€101m). Paulo Dybala (€175m) heads the Serie A rankings, while Robert Lewandowski (€107m) has the greatest figure for German Bundesliga players.

A research note details the scientific methodology used for these estimates. The ratings module on the CIES Football Observatory website presents the values for all big-5 league players. This transfer widget displays the trends from a comparative perspective. Potential clients and commercial partners are kindly invited to contact us to develop new collaborations for a new and exciting football year!

There are many things we could all argue about but the one that struck me, from an LFC point of view, is Gini. I love him but he is valued at £85m. Can't see Keita or Emre Can (again, eyesight if I'm wrong) but it does seem a little like it's all bollocks despite their 'scientific' review process.

Enjoy...

CraigDS · « **Reply #1 on:** January 8, 2018, 03:26:27 pm »

The thing is a joke. Lukaku and Rashford valued higher than Coutinho and Salah (Lukaku anyway).

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #2 on:** January 8, 2018, 03:27:16 pm »

Quote from: Golden_Child on January 8, 2018, 03:24:36 pm

(Couldn't see a topic made so far but I haven't got my glasses because they're broken. Mods please delete if a duplicate)

Like every January, the CIES Football Observatory has calculated the transfer values of players in the five major European leagues. The assessment takes into account the key criteria used by market actors such as age, position, contract duration, performance, international status, etc. Neymar (€213m) heads the table ahead of Lionel Messi (€202m) and Harry Kane (€195m). The top 100 list is available in issue number 209 of the Weekly Post.

Five players from the English Premier League are in the top ten: Harry Kane (2nd), Dele Alli (6th), Kevin de Bruyne (7th), Romelu Lukaku (8th) and Paul Pogba (10th). However, the highest estimated values for goalkeepers and defenders were recorded for two FC Barcelona’s players: Marc-André ter Stegen (€96m) and Samuel Umtiti (€101m). Paulo Dybala (€175m) heads the Serie A rankings, while Robert Lewandowski (€107m) has the greatest figure for German Bundesliga players.

A research note details the scientific methodology used for these estimates. The ratings module on the CIES Football Observatory website presents the values for all big-5 league players. This transfer widget displays the trends from a comparative perspective. Potential clients and commercial partners are kindly invited to contact us to develop new collaborations for a new and exciting football year!

http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2017/209/en/

There are many things we could all argue about but the one that struck me, from an LFC point of view, is Gini. I love him but he is valued at £85. Can't see Keita or Emre Can (again, eyesight if I'm wrong) but it does seem a little like it's all bollocks despite their 'scientific' review process.

Enjoy...

He's worth a bit more than that, I think

El Lobo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 8, 2018, 03:28:33 pm »

One day Rashford is gonna move for £300 million and whichever thick fuck keeps putting him so high in this list is gonna be a right smug twat

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #4 on:** January 8, 2018, 03:32:33 pm »

Bakayoko, Ndidi and our own Gini worth more than Kroos.

Maguire worth the same as Van Dijk.

Could go on but there's no point. Some of those valuations look well off.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #5 on:** January 8, 2018, 03:35:22 pm »

Quote from: PhaseOfPlay on January 8, 2018, 03:27:16 pm

He's worth a bit more than that, I think

I'd spend £85 on beers to have a night out with the happiest man in the world!

Djozer · « **Reply #6 on:** January 8, 2018, 03:44:51 pm »

The most useful thing this list has taught me is that Koke's surname is Resurreccion. Koke Resurreccion is a pretty cool name.

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #7 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:13:38 pm »

Is that a picture of the obelisk from 2001: A Space Odyssey?

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #8 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:14:43 pm »

Golden_Child · « **Reply #9 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:21:07 pm »

Quote from: PhaseOfPlay on January 8, 2018, 04:13:38 pm

Is that a picture of the obelisk from 2001: A Space Odyssey?

Thanks PoP.

Mods, if you read this, I just tried to send a message to Titi but it said I'd send a message within 15 seconds. Would appreciate if somebody could remove the blank pic link in the OP and delete subsequent posts that have nothing to do with the topic.

Any posts relating to random pics please leave as they are funny as fuck

Titi Camara · « **Reply #10 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:30:46 pm »

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #11 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:48:40 pm »

Ronaldo at 49, even if you take into account his age and poor form this season having Eric dier ahead of him is ridiculous, and many others too

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #12 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:49:08 pm »

Redmond worth more than asensio

elsewhere · « **Reply #13 on:** January 8, 2018, 04:53:20 pm »

what a fucking joke of a list and waste of time this was

Golden_Child · « **Reply #14 on:** January 9, 2018, 01:18:27 am »

Quote from: elsewhere on January 8, 2018, 04:53:20 pm

what a fucking joke of a list and waste of time this was

Apologies, thought it was worth a giggle

GreatEx · « **Reply #15 on:** January 9, 2018, 01:47:35 am »

Join Man U for ridiculous fee.
Play like shit.
Double in value.

Seems legit.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #16 on:** January 9, 2018, 01:53:10 am »

I feel sorry for anyone who missed the debacle of pics when sorting shit out.

Nighty night bitches

Popcorn · « **Reply #17 on:** January 9, 2018, 07:10:38 am »

Wow

That's ... interesting

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #18 on:** January 9, 2018, 07:15:26 am »

Gini

I like him, but whoever made this list has not hit the mark at all.

Djozer · « **Reply #19 on:** January 9, 2018, 07:43:51 am »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on January 9, 2018, 07:15:26 am

Gini

I like him, but whoever made this list has not hit the mark at all.

Yeah man, that one's...weird.

I like him too, clever player, lovely smile, all that jazz, but if someone offered us £85.6m for him I wouldn't necessarily dismiss them out of hand. You listening, Barca? Barca?

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #20 on:** January 9, 2018, 08:48:17 am »

Eric Dier

Nathan Redmond

Keita Success · « **Reply #21 on:** January 9, 2018, 10:35:21 am »

Rashford might be the most overrated player in world football

CraigDS · « **Reply #22 on:** January 9, 2018, 10:39:14 am »

Quote from: Keita Success on January 9, 2018, 10:35:21 am

Rashford might be the most overrated player in world football

Totally agree.

Other than the odd, and I mean odd, flash I just haven’t seen anything which would suggest he is worth the sort of hype that gets put on him.

CraigDS · « **Reply #23 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:18:06 pm »

I see they have Rashford as the 5th most valuable player in the world this time round.

Ahead of Salah, Mane, Firmino, VVD, in fact every Liverpool player other than TAA.

Is there a more over rated footballer currently?

Hazell · « **Reply #24 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:25:32 pm »

Quote from: Craig 🤔 on June 8, 2020, 06:18:06 pm

I see they have Rashford as the 5th most valuable player in the world this time round.

Ahead of Salah, Mane, Firmino, VVD, in fact every Liverpool player other than TAA.

Is there a more over rated footballer currently?

Bruno Fernandes.

El Lobo · « **Reply #25 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:27:29 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on June 8, 2020, 06:25:32 pm

Bruno Fernandes.

He’s actually too valuable to be on that list. He’s listed separately on Forbes.

El Lobo · « **Reply #26 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:30:00 pm »

Mason Mount more valuable than Frenkie De Jong

I forgot how trolly those lists are

Dim Glas · « **Reply #27 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:37:19 pm »

That list is so weird, did they forgot Kevin De Bruyne existed? Gabriel Jesus and Bernado Silva are in the top 20, and no sign of De Bruyne.

CraigDS · « **Reply #28 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:38:42 pm »

They seemingly place a lot of emphasis on youth (only reason I can think Rashford is so high, but then Haaland is quite far down and that young land Lingard is nowhere to be seen.

Medellin · « **Reply #29 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:45:31 pm »

This the same one?

Kekule · « **Reply #30 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:50:20 pm »

Ridiculous.

We all know Wan-Bissaka is the best right back in a generation, so how can Alexander-Arnold be that high on the list?

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #31 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:51:52 pm »

Quote from: Kekule on June 8, 2020, 06:50:20 pm

Ridiculous.

We all know Wan-Bissaka is the best right back in a generation, so how can Alexander-Arnold be that high on the list?

Because the list is over two years old

Oh, new list :x

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #32 on:** June 8, 2020, 06:53:53 pm »

I'd have thought Foden would've featured in the top 10

Chris~ · « **Reply #33 on:** June 8, 2020, 07:05:49 pm »

I assume they forgot to take griezmann off from previous lists and that's why he's still on there.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #34 on:** June 8, 2020, 07:18:18 pm »

Quote from: Chris~ on June 8, 2020, 07:05:49 pm

I assume they forgot to take griezmann off from previous lists and that's why he's still on there.

And if a lot of it is based on age, having him there, but no De Bruyne makes the list look even dafter.

I’d have Havertz or Haaland in there ahead of Rashford as well.

Hazell · « **Reply #35 on:** June 8, 2020, 07:31:05 pm »

Quote from: fucking appalled on June 8, 2020, 06:27:29 pm

He’s actually too valuable to be on that list. He’s listed separately on Forbes.

I wouldn't be surprised. I've never seen a player get so much praise with so little justification. Well, at least since Pogba signed for them.

The Test · « **Reply #36 on:** June 8, 2020, 09:27:41 pm »

Quote from: Keita Success on January 9, 2018, 10:35:21 am

Rashford might be the most overrated player in world football

I swear on my daughters life he isn't...

plura · « **Reply #37 on:** June 8, 2020, 09:33:16 pm »

Quote from: Dim Glas on June 8, 2020, 07:18:18 pm

And if a lot of it is based on age, having him there, but no De Bruyne makes the list look even dafter.

I’d have Havertz or Haaland in there ahead of Rashford as well.

Went through that list twice without ever pricing Rashford’s name on it until you said he was on it. Even his name doesn’t stand out at all.

Circa1892 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 8, 2020, 10:03:27 pm »

Even allowing for age and the fact Barcelona would never sell, the fact Messi isn't on that list devalues it completely.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #39 on:** June 9, 2020, 05:19:43 am »

It also ignores the affect of the pandemic, which is fucking stupid.