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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3600 on: September 25, 2019, 12:15:18 pm »
The only way I see City getting under 95 is if they continue to rack up injuries in key positions or Guardiola self-combusts from hypocrisy and over thinking things.

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3601 on: September 25, 2019, 12:55:15 pm »
Yeah think some are getting carried away with City's early dropped points. They were pretty freakish results - most City dropped points are, I guess, given their dominance in games, but that Spurs game was particularly ridiculous - and I can't see them dropping another point until they play us.

I'd be stunned if they don't hit early 90's.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3602 on: September 26, 2019, 12:50:26 pm »

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3603 on: September 26, 2019, 03:12:59 pm »
So, after looking at myself at the top of the table I'm feeling depressed again in the kitchen this morning. I've been a virgin for about 20 something years... I lost count. Then I met this blonde German model and we are breaking all sorts of records in the bedroom and after a long streak of incredible climaxes last season, she is in form for greater heights this season... but I keep thinking our relationship is due to expire in 3 years. I hope after all this, she will stay with me beyond that but the fact she told me from the start she is open to leave then, I keep thinking about where she could go and I feel so hurt thinking about it, as if all she is in for is to get her greencard or something. After a glorious victory last night with more amazing goals, I open up to her about this feeling and she says I'm crazy, she says I just need to enjoy the next 3 years with her, after all she chose to be with me and nobody else. Makes me feel so special, but then at the same time after last night, after those amazing highs, that is when I think about the future even more and I get even more depressed. Please help, aunt Agony.

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3604 on: September 26, 2019, 06:18:20 pm »
If someone from the future told me 90 points wins the title this season I'd be opening up a bottle of Champagne already.

It's gonna be 95 or more.
I think you are are wrong! Although I am not from the future, so sorry about that.

Before January City will drop some points due to being vulnerable to set-pieces and I think they will also drop some points when going all guns blazing to win the Champions League in the Spring.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3605 on: September 28, 2019, 08:55:53 pm »
I'm sure POP or someone else has mentioned the importance of scoring 2+ goals in games. It is something we can improve on given our quality up front. Last season, we managed 2+ in 26 of the 38 games, winning all 26.  We also managed it in 7 times in 13 CL games and won all 7. In fact, we have won the last 41 games in all comps where we have scored 2+ goals. Shows the vast improvement in our defence if nothing else. For reference, in the 2017/18 season, we scored 2+ and did NOT win seven times!

Basically, if we want to win the league, we need to score 2+ in most games, or learn how to scruff more 1-0s!

Is Klopp tweaking it to ensure we have a higher percentage of games where we get those precious two goals?

Our defence has only conceded 2+ in 7 of the last 59 games in the PL and CL going back to the start of last season.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3606 on: September 28, 2019, 10:33:33 pm »
We got 97 points last season.

There’s no rhyme or reason or ‘if we want to win the league we need to do this’ apart from ‘if we want to win the league, we need to finish above Man City’. We really didn’t do anything wrong.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3607 on: September 29, 2019, 12:48:00 pm »
For all the kids on here, this is what it feels like to be a Liverpool fan in the 1980s.  8) ;D
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« Reply #3608 on: September 29, 2019, 01:57:43 pm »
For all the kids on here, this is what it feels like to be a Liverpool fan in the 1980s.  8) ;D
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« Reply #3609 on: September 29, 2019, 02:21:50 pm »
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 --But not quite. I'm conscious I bear scars now. The memory of Poulsen and 'utopia', the battle against Hicks and Gillett - these things cannot be undone.

True, but when Shanks took over we were in the second tier, which is comparable to that period under the cowboys who effectively relegated us from the champions league. So it's all relative :)
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« Reply #3610 on: September 29, 2019, 08:46:44 pm »
:D
 --But not quite. I'm conscious I bear scars now. The memory of Poulsen and 'utopia', the battle against Hicks and Gillett - these things cannot be undone.

So many of those players shouldn’t be given a Liverpool shirt even if they paid for it.

Poulsen, fucking Koncheski, Joe Cole. Really tainted our club. Forever never welcomed at Anfield.

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3611 on: September 29, 2019, 09:23:42 pm »
So many of those players shouldn’t be given a Liverpool shirt even if they paid for it.

Poulsen, fucking Koncheski, Joe Cole. Really tainted our club. Forever never welcomed at Anfield.

Poulsen and Joe Cole were actually decent players, we just signed them way after their pomp.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3612 on: September 29, 2019, 09:28:10 pm »
:D
 --But not quite. I'm conscious I bear scars now. The memory of Poulsen and 'utopia', the battle against Hicks and Gillett - these things cannot be undone.

Don't forget Konchesky's mum...

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3613 on: September 30, 2019, 12:47:24 am »
#LFC close to adding Porto coach Vitor Matos to Jurgen Klopp’s staff. Set to take on Pep Lijnders’ former role as a bridge between the academy and Melwood for young talents.

https://twitter.com/lynchstandard/status/1178422725561520128?s=21

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« Reply #3614 on: September 30, 2019, 05:39:13 am »
Chris Wilder entered the media suite profuse with apologies for his lateness. He had been waylaid by Jürgen Klopp, held up by his own tribute to the man named Fifa’s coach of the year. The Sheffield United manager had given his Liverpool counterpart his second prize of the week, a bottle of champagne.

“I wanted to present him with something from our football club, because I think it is important we recognise his achievements,” said Wilder. The third gift, sadly for him, came from his goalkeeper, Dean Henderson, who presented Liverpool with the points.

Wilder could not vouch for the quality of bottle’s contents; nor was it drunk by either manager. “I am not a connoisseur of champagne,” he said. “He has had a beer and talked about the game. He is open and that is quite refreshing because I don’t get that feel that quite a few managers in the Premier League want to do that. He is a right down-to-earth guy.” There is, one senses, no higher praise from the deliberately unflashy Wilder.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/sep/29/jurgen-klopp-winning-run-uninterested-numbers-wilder-champagne

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« Reply #3615 on: September 30, 2019, 09:18:41 am »
#LFC close to adding Porto coach Vitor Matos to Jurgen Klopp’s staff. Set to take on Pep Lijnders’ former role as a bridge between the academy and Melwood for young talents.

https://twitter.com/lynchstandard/status/1178422725561520128?s=21
Does anyone know more about him? What is he good at etc. etc.?

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3616 on: September 30, 2019, 10:08:07 am »
He invented the lava lamp.
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« Reply #3617 on: September 30, 2019, 10:12:01 am »
He’s also ridiculously good at KerPlunk.

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« Reply #3618 on: September 30, 2019, 10:25:35 am »
He invented the lava lamp.

His father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner.

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« Reply #3619 on: September 30, 2019, 12:34:37 pm »
He likes large , dry , crackers.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3620 on: September 30, 2019, 06:12:29 pm »
He invented the lava lamp.

That's all well and good, but I believe Klopp wanted a table so what do we do now?


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« Reply #3621 on: October 1, 2019, 02:20:48 pm »
During a long trek across Dartmoor at the weekend, I reflected on how much I've fallen in love with football again in recent years, and how much of it is down to Klopp.

The main thing I like about his template and his work with us so far is how its all grown organically. He knew he couldn't make wholesale changes in one season and has instead made incremental improvements in every aspect of the club both on and off the pitch since he joined (like every great manager should). It's the approach Ferguson took at Utd, and is ironically the approach that's been abandoned since he left in favour of a random scattergun approach to managers and signings.

Klopp started with the fans and turning doubters into believers, as he knew no matter what he achieved with signings, he needed fans to be 100% behind them whether we win, lose or draw. He then addressed the player recruitment side so that players who fit the philosophy and system (and had the right character) were scouted and bought, instead of some of the square pegs in round holes we had for so many years before him. He then signed Mane and Salah and developed one of the best forward lines in Europe, knowing his heavy metal approach would beat teams even if they scored against us. He then focused on the defence and signed Robertson, promoted Trent, developed Matip, and then signed Virgil and Alisson - creating one of Europe's best defences from scratch and adopting a more cautious and controlled approach to games, as he knew we had less chance of conceding. Keita and Ox were also added, and are arguably the only big signings that are yet to deliver consistently, although both with mitigating circumstances.

I think we need to remind ourselves sometimes just what has been achieved. Whether its free signings (Matip, Adrian), inherited players (Milner, Firmino, Gomez, Origi), talented youngsters (Trent, and now Elliot/Jones/Hoever and others), mid-priced players that have been improved (Salah, Mane, Wijnaldum, Fabinho), or big money solutions (Virgil, Alisson) - almost every single player has either improved dramatically or become one of the best (if not the best) in the league in their respective positions under his leadership. He's also focused on player retention, to keep the harmony and consistency going with a tight knit squad that are less likely to have their heads turned.

There's been plenty of interesting debate about whether our midfield needs improving - some fans want a more attacking and creative setup that adds assists and goals, whilst others argue that's not their job, and that the full backs and front 3 are giving us what we need. Certainly many of us see a midfield 3 of Fabinho, Keita and Ox as a possible dream combination, and whilst that may or may not be what takes us to another level, the fact that we're European champions and 5 points clear in the league without two of those three is testament to what our current midfielders have contributed in the last 18 months. Hopefully we reach the point soon when there is no longer a debate, and Klopp can just use any combination available to suit the opposition. Fortunately the rest of the squad is still young enough to have the time for that midfield to develop and be at their peak at the same time, and it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next two transfer windows as Klopp looks to develop his options further - most likely at left back and cover for the front three.

The Anfield Wrap had a good piece the other day where they mentioned how the generation that enjoyed the glory days of either the 70's 80's, or 90's (or all three decades) no longer have to look back misty eyed, or tell younger fans what it used to be like. We're all living those days again right now, and it feels bloody great.
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« Reply #3622 on: October 4, 2019, 12:34:17 pm »
We should give him a blank cheque and make him sign it (contract extension, 2025).

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« Reply #3623 on: October 4, 2019, 01:17:26 pm »
We should give him a blank cheque and make him sign it (contract extension, 2025).

 Whatever you want, Jurgen!

The club is happy to pay transfer fees of £40m and above with regularity. I would gladly sacrifice 5 £40m transfers for the ability to keep Klopp at the club for an extra 3 years. I don’t get the sense that Klopp is chasing money but putting 200m on the table for him isn’t exactly going to turn him away from us. If he wants, the majority can be donated in his name to causes of his choice.

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« Reply #3624 on: October 4, 2019, 01:39:01 pm »
Poulsen and Joe Cole were actually decent players, we just signed them way after their pomp.

Buying Joe Cole epitomized everything that was wrong with the club at that time.

If I remember correctly, not only was he complete rubbish during his time at LFC, but also apparently advised Hazard to turn down LFC and go to Chelsea.

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« Reply #3625 on: October 4, 2019, 01:54:57 pm »
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« Reply #3626 on: October 4, 2019, 01:58:56 pm »
Good, no need for any cameras when Klopp is talking to the players.

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« Reply #3627 on: October 4, 2019, 02:54:03 pm »
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Jurgen Klopp on whether he would let TV cameras film him during half-time like Jesse Mersch for Salzburg on Weds: "If LFC ever allowed a video of me doing that I would leave the club."
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« Reply #3628 on: October 4, 2019, 03:02:10 pm »
Went well for Rodgers didn't it?

That's it. Your name's going into one of the envelopes.
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« Reply #3629 on: October 4, 2019, 03:07:20 pm »
Good, no need for any cameras when Klopp is talking to the players.

Exactly.

I can understand why clubs might want to do this and why certain managers might agree to it. Some clubs (including ourselves in the 2012-2013 season) will see this as a good way to generate publicity around the club. For Salzburg this must be the case. I think you also need an inexperienced manager to agree to this. Or at least a manager who doesn't have the authority at the club to put his foot down and say no to having cameras in the dressing room.

Liverpool in 2019 doesn't need this type of output for it's social media (though I suspect some fans would be interested in seeing it). In Klopp, we also have manger with the authority to say no to such an 'intrusion'.
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« Reply #3630 on: October 4, 2019, 03:14:08 pm »
Exactly.

I can understand why clubs might want to do this and why certain managers might agree to it. Some clubs (including ourselves in the 2012-2013 season) will see this as a good way to generate publicity around the club. For Salzburg this must be the case. I think you also need an inexperienced manager to agree to this. Or at least a manager who doesn't have the authority at the club to put his foot down and say no to having cameras in the dressing room.

Liverpool in 2019 doesn't need this type of output for it's social media (though I suspect some fans would be interested in seeing it). In Klopp, we also have manger with the authority to say no to such an 'intrusion'.

It's become quite a 'normal' thing in some sports, certainly in hockey in the NHL, often for bigger games you'll see clips of the dressing room, and of team-talks.  I guess they don't have much choice as it's the TV companies pushing it and paying for it, but yeah, can't understand why they would do it.

For Red Bull Salzburg, I didn't see it, but I can imagine that they released it to 'show off' after the game they lost on Wednesday, cos they want to hype up their coach and team. And as it's Red Bull, everything is done for brand awareness and publicity and I'm sure the head coach is having to sign all sorts of releases when he signs his contract.

As for Kloppo, he's said before he won't do any sort of documentary series that has now become popular, which is absolutely spot on and good for him. Funny thing is, he did do an interview for the Borussia Dortmund one that came out a few months ago! And a great interview it was too.

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« Reply #3631 on: October 4, 2019, 04:06:31 pm »
It's become quite a 'normal' thing in some sports, certainly in hockey in the NHL, often for bigger games you'll see clips of the dressing room, and of team-talks.  I guess they don't have much choice as it's the TV companies pushing it and paying for it, but yeah, can't understand why they would do it.

For Red Bull Salzburg, I didn't see it, but I can imagine that they released it to 'show off' after the game they lost on Wednesday, cos they want to hype up their coach and team. And as it's Red Bull, everything is done for brand awareness and publicity and I'm sure the head coach is having to sign all sorts of releases when he signs his contract.

As for Kloppo, he's said before he won't do any sort of documentary series that has now become popular, which is absolutely spot on and good for him. Funny thing is, he did do an interview for the Borussia Dortmund one that came out a few months ago! And a great interview it was too.

It's big in the states for sure.  HBO's Hard Knocks show is huge for American football and Amazon Prime has their All or Nothing series which Man City was featured in last year is huge too.  They do mostly American football, college and pro, teams as well.  Prime also has a bunch of new documentaries on football out now as well. 

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« Reply #3632 on: October 4, 2019, 04:15:21 pm »
The club is happy to pay transfer fees of £40m and above with regularity. I would gladly sacrifice 5 £40m transfers for the ability to keep Klopp at the club for an extra 3 years. I don’t get the sense that Klopp is chasing money but putting 200m on the table for him isn’t exactly going to turn him away from us. If he wants, the majority can be donated in his name to causes of his choice.

I'm sure the club (FSG) will do everything possible to keep him longer. Fingers crossed, it works! It should...
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« Reply #3633 on: October 4, 2019, 04:58:22 pm »
I have to have a look at the RB Saltzburg half time thing. But honestly, most half-time talks at all levels are just reminders of jobs players have to do. There's an occasional big speech, but generally it's just "you make sure you're here, and you - slow the game down a bit and let us get shape; and the rest of you, stay compact and stop giving them gaps to play through. We might change to a back five if things get dicey, but otherwise, keep working, keep running, and play our game" type stuff.

I bet Klopp's disinterest is less in giving team secrets away and more about just not wanting the hassle of what, 3-5 extra people in a possible already-cramped dressing room.
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« Reply #3634 on: October 4, 2019, 05:37:27 pm »
I bet space considerations isn't his disinterest at all  ;)

Klopp's unwillingness is more that he dislikes journalists and the media side of football, and just does what he has to. Allowing them even more access is a big no-no. Some stuff needs to remain behind closed doors.

I think LFCTV have toned down a lot since he came here, they don't get half as much access to Melwood as they used to, and that's no coincidence.

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« Reply #3635 on: October 4, 2019, 05:57:13 pm »
I bet space considerations isn't his disinterest at all  ;)

Klopp's unwillingness is more that he dislikes journalists and the media side of football, and just does what he has to. Allowing them even more access is a big no-no. Some stuff needs to remain behind closed doors.

I think LFCTV have toned down a lot since he came here, they don't get half as much access to Melwood as they used to, and that's no coincidence.

I didn't say the space was the consideration. I said having the extra people milling about would be an issue. Watch one of those tunnel cam videos on YouTube, and count how often people are knocking on the door, going in, coming back out, the refs, the admin people, etc. It's quite distracting. Having a bunch of other people in there who have no real business there, plus their equipment, plus dealing with any hiccups that happen with the equipment, etc., is a distraction that managers don't need or want, most likely, given the already-present distractions as-is. And given Klopp's attention to detail, I'd say that has as much to do with any lack of desire to get involved with filming pre-game, half-time and full-time in the dressing room, as anything else.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3636 on: October 4, 2019, 09:34:36 pm »
It's become quite a 'normal' thing in some sports, certainly in hockey in the NHL, often for bigger games you'll see clips of the dressing room, and of team-talks.  I guess they don't have much choice as it's the TV companies pushing it and paying for it, but yeah, can't understand why they would do it.

For Red Bull Salzburg, I didn't see it, but I can imagine that they released it to 'show off' after the game they lost on Wednesday, cos they want to hype up their coach and team. And as it's Red Bull, everything is done for brand awareness and publicity and I'm sure the head coach is having to sign all sorts of releases when he signs his contract.

As for Kloppo, he's said before he won't do any sort of documentary series that has now become popular, which is absolutely spot on and good for him. Funny thing is, he did do an interview for the Borussia Dortmund one that came out a few months ago! And a great interview it was too.

There was a really good youtube compilation of his interviews as Dortmund manager, used to love watching it. I noticed now that Dortmund have taken it off air, it had been on for ages before then. A real shame, loved some of those interviews he did.
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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3637 on: October 4, 2019, 10:00:06 pm »
Not really about Klopp, but couldn't find anywhere else to put this, maybe we need a Mickey Edwards thread now -
https://www.goal.com/en/news/i-was-ashamed-fekirs-former-agent-blames-players-entourage/1llqo6rq23phd1uwltpb4qbkgz

That is a great read and does seem to be a different angle from what has been told before. Also seems to shed more light on what we look for if true. No problem individuals wanted, whether it be the player or the entourage.

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3638 on: October 4, 2019, 11:40:36 pm »

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Re: The Klopp Template
« Reply #3639 on: October 5, 2019, 01:41:07 am »
Not really about Klopp, but couldn't find anywhere else to put this, maybe we need a Mickey Edwards thread now -
https://www.goal.com/en/news/i-was-ashamed-fekirs-former-agent-blames-players-entourage/1llqo6rq23phd1uwltpb4qbkgz

That is a great read and does seem to be a different angle from what has been told before. Also seems to shed more light on what we look for if true. No problem individuals wanted, whether it be the player or the entourage.

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