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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1080 on: May 19, 2024, 09:44:05 am »
Great little interview that, getting a bit emotional now.

Good luck to him at Salzburg.
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1081 on: May 19, 2024, 06:31:36 pm »
A big part of me is thinking he should have been given it.
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1082 on: May 21, 2024, 09:43:41 pm »
A big part of me is thinking he should have been given it.

Absolutely no bloody way. He doesn’t have the gravitas for such a role or managerial experience. He can come across seriously goofy at times.

If you look at likes of Paisley and Dalglish, when they went into the role they didn’t have the experience. But they both definitely had the gravitas and were much more deeply embedded into the fabric of the club and culture.

Pep’s contribution was immense, but the main man -  no way.
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1083 on: May 21, 2024, 09:48:06 pm »
yep good interview but he doesnt comes across as a leader.
Just doesnt have that authority about him like a guy who tries by everyone's mate.
Seems a decent guy but not a manager imo

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1084 on: May 22, 2024, 03:49:47 am »
I hope he does well. Klopp deserves having a legacy in Lijnders. He helped build one of the most memorable and feared teams in Europe. What Klopp and Lijnders did with pressing and fullback play have been lasting innovations. Took the league three seasons to work it out.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1085 on: May 22, 2024, 05:15:41 am »
Really insightful interview.

My biggest take is how much the stability is important if we want to win the biggest trophies. The bigger a player turnover is the more inconsistent your team will be as they need time to grow together as a team and build on the understanding they get from playing and training together.

That's why Slot's appointment makes a lot of sense as in theory we'll practically continue with a lot of what we were doing so far. Bar the odd tweak here and there this group of players needs to be allowed to grow together and become the machine that Klopp's team their peak was following a few years of growing together.

Hopefully Pep could develop some young players for us there - could be a nice little partnership.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1086 on: May 22, 2024, 05:44:18 am »
Really enjoyed the redmentv interview he did.  He comes across as a proper sound fella who just lives and breaths football.  Absolutely adores Trent and even joked about signing Conor which he can kindly fuck off  ;D.  Wish him the best of luck. 

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1087 on: May 22, 2024, 09:19:56 am »
A big part of me is thinking he should have been given it.

I wouldn’t rule him out as a future Liverpool manager.

If he does well at Salzburg and potentially his next step after that then he’ll be a prime candidate if and when the Liverpool job becomes available.

He’s still only 41 so could easily have time to establish himself and come back to Liverpool
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1088 on: May 23, 2024, 06:51:42 am »
Comes across really well in the RedMen TV interview, much more personable and less guarded than in his book or his press conferences. I think Red Bull Salzburg is a great gig for him. Wish him all the best.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1089 on: May 23, 2024, 07:46:59 am »
yep good interview but he doesnt comes across as a leader.
Just doesnt have that authority about him like a guy who tries by everyone's mate.
Seems a decent guy but not a manager imo

Rodgers was always like that though and he's at least made a good career for himself as a manager.

Time will tell, but some of the top coaches just don't make good managers. Hopefully he can make a success of it, he seems to have picked a good gig to start.
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1090 on: May 23, 2024, 01:39:36 pm »
Rodgers was always like that though and he's at least made a good career for himself as a manager.

Time will tell, but some of the top coaches just don't make good managers. Hopefully he can make a success of it, he seems to have picked a good gig to start.

Not only that - Pep will be able to point to the massive success with Liverpool - where everyone in the know is well aware of his importance to that success.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1091 on: May 24, 2024, 03:38:14 pm »
So Pep was considered for the top job.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1092 on: May 24, 2024, 11:52:31 pm »
So Pep was considered for the top job.

It makes sense.  The pressure and comparisons to Klopp that he would have to deal with would be unbearable.   

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1093 on: May 25, 2024, 01:16:06 am »
Absolutely no bloody way. He doesn’t have the gravitas for such a role or managerial experience. He can come across seriously goofy at times.

If you look at likes of Paisley and Dalglish, when they went into the role they didn’t have the experience. But they both definitely had the gravitas and were much more deeply embedded into the fabric of the club and culture.

Pep’s contribution was immense, but the main man -  no way.
It's the way he comes across in pressers that does it for me. Many will say that doesn't matter but if I see a manger struggle to get their message across, if they don't sound authoritive or believable I'm out. The players from the team see this stuff aswell and it also a look into how they speak to the group in training etc. I like Pep and he is certainly a great coach but this wasn't for him no matter how much respect the players have for him.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1094 on: May 25, 2024, 01:19:00 am »
Fantastic interview, but he knew himself he wasn't the right man. Wish him all the best
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1095 on: May 25, 2024, 02:19:57 am »
I am at a loss as to how people can say he’s any good or not considering near enough all of his work is done away from the public eye. All we know for certain is that Klopp loved working with him and placed a lot of trust in him. How he does as the main man is not set in stone, and I suspect that no one will be aware of that more than he is. People talk about his qualities as a leader (“gravitas”) but it seems to me like everyone who works with him loves him, so surely that’s a good starting point? I wish him the very best of luck.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1096 on: May 25, 2024, 09:48:49 am »
Give him a youngster or two on loan he'll look after them

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1097 on: May 26, 2024, 05:11:26 pm »
It's the way he comes across in pressers that does it for me. Many will say that doesn't matter but if I see a manger struggle to get their message across, if they don't sound authoritive or believable I'm out. The players from the team see this stuff aswell and it also a look into how they speak to the group in training etc. I like Pep and he is certainly a great coach but this wasn't for him no matter how much respect the players have for him.
Not sure about that. Can think of a good few great managers who are awful in press conference and interviews.  Don't think it counts for much myself.  All types of successful coaches. Just look at our Bob Paisley, famously a pretty poor communicator, especially in comparison to his predecessor, our most successful manager ever...

Let's see how Pep gets on before writing him off.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1098 on: May 28, 2024, 05:13:32 pm »
Thought this was a really fascinating interview with Lijnders, you can tell he really loves football and coaching players. Klopp absolutely loved him and you can tell why. Gonna be big miss.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1099 on: June 11, 2024, 09:53:18 pm »
that board they are using. I'll bet Rafa made the club buy them.
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1100 on: June 12, 2024, 04:05:01 am »
that board they are using. I'll bet Rafa made the club buy them.

It's Chris's board, likely made it himself too.  ;D

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1101 on: June 12, 2024, 06:18:18 am »
Thought this was a really fascinating interview with Lijnders, you can tell he really loves football and coaching players. Klopp absolutely loved him and you can tell why. Gonna be big miss.

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I only just seen this, will watch it tomorrow thanks for posting.
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1102 on: June 12, 2024, 12:44:47 pm »
That was a brilliant interview. Pep will certainly be a big miss but I wish him all the best for what hopefully turns out to be an excellent career in management.

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1103 on: June 13, 2024, 06:54:26 am »
Thought this was a really fascinating interview with Lijnders, you can tell he really loves football and coaching players. Klopp absolutely loved him and you can tell why. Gonna be big miss.

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Thanks for posting mate. I'll be watching that later

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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1104 on: June 13, 2024, 07:04:56 am »
Kornmeyer is going to Salzburg with him and Matos
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Re: Pep Lijnders
« Reply #1105 on: June 13, 2024, 11:42:09 am »
It's the way he comes across in pressers that does it for me. Many will say that doesn't matter but if I see a manger struggle to get their message across, if they don't sound authoritive or believable I'm out. The players from the team see this stuff aswell and it also a look into how they speak to the group in training etc. I like Pep and he is certainly a great coach but this wasn't for him no matter how much respect the players have for him.

See this is mad to me. I thought every single one of his pressers was informative and interesting, he clearly loves the sport, liverpool and everything he was doing. He oozed passion each time. If anything he over-shared.