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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3600 on: November 23, 2018, 12:12:50 PM »
In terms of ability and technique, I don't think we have had such a good Centre Back.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3601 on: November 23, 2018, 12:33:27 PM »
VVD has the ability and it seems the influence on his team to possibly surpass not just Sami, but a lot of other legends.

VvD has had a great impact on our defence. But I think Hyypia's impact was bigger. We were atrocious at defending in the pre-Hyypia, 90's era.

Like I said I think VvD is potentially the better player. I think he's had a great impact on our team and defence by the virtue of the fact that's he's one of the top few defenders in the World.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3602 on: November 23, 2018, 01:43:39 PM »
It's a wonderful debate to have, and its great that that the players mentioned are just so good there is no real wrong answer.
I didnt see much of Hansen, Sami was one of my favourite ever players and I had the pleasure of meeting him, absolute gentleman an all. For me though the impact Van Dijk has had is just scary. The whole defensive ability of the team has just rocketed since he came in.
There's a calmness across the pitch now and I haven't heard the annoying phrase "we can't manage a game" in ages.
I don't care if he's been here 1 year or 10 years - he is the best defender I have ever seen play for us and our most important player by a country mile.
Tell you something I'd have bloody loved to see, came to me yesterday when he retired. An on form Drogba v an on form Van Dijk - that would just be something that could only be shown after 11pm on the +900 channels

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3603 on: November 23, 2018, 01:52:00 PM »
In terms of ability and technique, I don't think we have had such a good Centre Back.
Hansen.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3604 on: November 23, 2018, 02:02:56 PM »
In terms of ability and technique, I don't think we have had such a good Centre Back.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3605 on: November 23, 2018, 02:35:50 PM »

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3606 on: November 23, 2018, 02:42:11 PM »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3607 on: November 23, 2018, 05:18:30 PM »
Don't want to spoil the party but talking of great CBs a fella called Yeats comes to mind.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3608 on: November 23, 2018, 07:31:21 PM »
He HAD some balls

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3609 on: November 23, 2018, 10:15:42 PM »
Hyppia is a legend and was a good CB and leader in our club. He lifted a Champions League trophy, after playing a big part in one of the greatest games of football to have ever been played.

Van Dijk is a great CB, as a footballer, he is astonishingly good. He’s incredibly intelligent, like Sami, too - he *controls* space. Which is actually the biggest thing in football by the way. And we’re supporting him right now to write his own legend, like Sami did back then.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3610 on: November 23, 2018, 10:26:07 PM »
Don't want to spoil the party but talking of great CBs a fella called Yeats comes to mind.

Yep. And as a kid I thought genuinely thought his name was Yates as in Rowdy Yates.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3611 on: November 23, 2018, 10:35:56 PM »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3613 on: November 23, 2018, 10:57:26 PM »
You can only realistically assess a player when their time at the club draws to an end. Then we will know how many performances, trophies, impact, and all the rest of it.

Based on early indications, I’d have VVD ahead of everyone until you go back to Hansen and Lawrenson, but realistically he has to stick around for a while and you know, win something!

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3614 on: November 24, 2018, 01:41:58 AM »
I believe he is the best Central Back we have ever had.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3615 on: November 24, 2018, 02:26:18 AM »
I was lucky enough to be able to watch the Hansen/Lawrenson defensive partnership for many years and I've yet to see anything better. However the current Virgil van Dijk/JO Gomez pairing could develop into the modern day equivalent. Exciting times ahead.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3616 on: November 24, 2018, 03:02:28 AM »
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

He's been with us for less than a season and he's been outstanding in his contribution so far. To be deemed as an equal or better than some of the names above he's got to do it over many seasons for us.

We live in a world where labels are applied to people far too quickly. Virgil is well on track to be eventually named with the likes of Hyypia and Hansen.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3617 on: November 24, 2018, 07:28:39 AM »
Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

He's been with us for less than a season and he's been outstanding in his contribution so far. To be deemed as an equal or better than some of the names above he's got to do it over many seasons for us.

We live in a world where labels are applied to people far too quickly. Virgil is well on track to be eventually named with the likes of Hyypia and Hansen.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3618 on: November 24, 2018, 08:03:57 AM »
And all the world is football shaped, It's just for me to kick in space. And I can see, hear, smell, touch, taste.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3619 on: November 24, 2018, 08:14:13 AM »
I think you have to take systems into account too when assessing centre backs. Sami was a brilliant defender as was Carra, but they both played largely under pragmatic managers who put defence first, particularly Houllier where the back four were usually on the keepers toes. What could mark VVD out as superior when the dust settles on his Anfield career, is his ability to control a defence playing a high line, much like Hansen. If Hyypia had a slight weakness it was getting done on the turn by pace. Still a legend though.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3620 on: November 24, 2018, 10:50:23 AM »
I think you have to take systems into account too when assessing centre backs. Sami was a brilliant defender as was Carra, but they both played largely under pragmatic managers who put defence first, particularly Houllier where the back four were usually on the keepers toes. What could mark VVD out as superior when the dust settles on his Anfield career, is his ability to control a defence playing a high line, much like Hansen. If Hyypia had a slight weakness it was getting done on the turn by pace. Still a legend though.
I can't remember one instance where the high line has failed, it's something I'm not used to in all the years following us. It's got to the point where you don't mind the other team getting a free kick near our box because you know we're going to catch them offside. It is a thing of beauty, takes so much organizing to pull off, and it's no surprise that we're able to do it so frequently since Virge has been here.


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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3621 on: November 24, 2018, 11:45:25 AM »
I can't remember one instance where the high line has failed, it's something I'm not used to in all the years following us. It's got to the point where you don't mind the other team getting a free kick near our box because you know we're going to catch them offside. It is a thing of beauty, takes so much organizing to pull off, and it's no surprise that we're able to do it so frequently since Virge has been here.
Yeah which is as much to do with his organisational ability too. Must be great playing in a back four with him.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3622 on: November 24, 2018, 04:51:16 PM »
Brilliant again today.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3623 on: November 24, 2018, 04:52:49 PM »
There isn't enough superlatives. Best CB in the world and it's not close.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3624 on: November 24, 2018, 04:53:09 PM »
Boss. MOTM today in my opinion

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3625 on: November 24, 2018, 04:54:55 PM »
He is fast becoming an all time PL great - its like watching an amalgam of Terry and Ferdinand

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3626 on: November 24, 2018, 04:55:14 PM »
There isn't enough superlatives. Best CB in the world and it's not close.

Yep, it's really not, there's no one even anywhere near him. Maybe our other boy in a few years but not yet.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3627 on: November 24, 2018, 04:58:10 PM »
that double interception at the end there, wow
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3628 on: November 24, 2018, 04:58:25 PM »
At the moment, hes basically the reason we’re where we are in the league. Attack isn’t as sharp as it has been, but this guy’s quality and shepherding of our whole defence is truly exceptional. Those key moments in the game, when one of our defenders (or GK) make a mistake, he closes the space down and snuffs the danger out completely. Has done it time and time again and it has ensured we don’t go on the back foot too much in games.

It’s annoying we’re about to hit the December fixtures and Keita and Fabinho look nowhere near up to speed and our attackers aren’t yet firing on all cylinders, but as long as we can count on Virgil, we’re going to be alright.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3629 on: November 24, 2018, 05:02:05 PM »
At the moment, hes basically the reason we’re where we are in the league. Attack isn’t as sharp as it has been, but this guy’s quality and shepherding of our whole defence is truly exceptional. Those key moments in the game, when one of our defenders (or GK) make a mistake, he closes the space down and snuffs the danger out completely. Has done it time and time again and it has ensured we don’t go on the back foot too much in games.

It’s annoying we’re about to hit the December fixtures and Keita and Fabinho look nowhere near up to speed and our attackers aren’t yet firing on all cylinders, but as long as we can count on Virgil, we’re going to be alright.

Stupendous footballer.
Was a nice angle/view of when Foster was taking a goal kick of VVD in the middle organising everyone, I agree he's the main reason we're keeping up with City
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3630 on: November 24, 2018, 05:02:07 PM »
that double interception at the end there, wow

Yes brilliant moment that to cap off the usual fantastic performance.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3631 on: November 24, 2018, 05:05:19 PM »
A big impact was very much expected from Van Gijk, but I think that he had exceeded everyone's expectations. This cliche is overused, but he is really worth every penny.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3632 on: November 24, 2018, 05:34:32 PM »
He is our best player. He is better than Salah. Equal to or better than the Salah of last season’s second half. I don’t watch other leagues to know whether he is the best CB in the world, but he is certainly better than Ramos, who people often mention, and the best in the PL.

He is worth £150m to us now.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3633 on: November 24, 2018, 05:37:00 PM »
I feel so much more relaxed with him in the side than I have at any point probably since Hyypia left. I'm no longer shitting myself whenever a cross comes over but instead calmly wait for it to be cleared. You can how much confidence he gives the players around him as well.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3634 on: November 24, 2018, 05:39:28 PM »
The defence has conceded 0.38 goals per game on average this season. Which is mental when you think about it. It's nowhere near that without Virg.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3635 on: November 24, 2018, 06:03:33 PM »
His song sounded brilliant today.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3636 on: November 24, 2018, 06:06:36 PM »
Song sounded amazing, seemed like it was continuous for about 15 minutes first half.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3637 on: November 24, 2018, 06:10:04 PM »
I believe he is the best Central Back we have ever had.
He is to defending what someone like Ronaldo/Messi is to attacking. The combination of physical, mental and technical attributes all at the level he has them? I've never seen the like. It's actually insane that it took him so long to get to a top club in a top league.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3638 on: November 24, 2018, 06:15:44 PM »
Another incredible performance, always seems to be in the right place at the right time

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool
« Reply #3639 on: November 24, 2018, 06:33:59 PM »
He was determined to keep a clean-sheet.

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