Topic: Coutinho

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Hope he does well.

Same but that's only because I want Stevie to do well.

Fucking hate Villa and their tosser fans.

[Sangria]

He hasn't been bought in to save them relegation and they're unlikely to push for Europe so not sure how much tangible benefit they'll get from his singing but at least their fans are excited.

He's their record-breaking signing. Or at least mp3-breaking.

[jillcwhomever]

People are forgetting that after a decent start in Germany he then turned to shit,so it's not all about tictacs.

And we laugh at him because he acted the twat.

Does he like the ordinary flavoured ones or the orange? 

[Keith Lard]

I wanted to see how Stevie does without cheat codes from his ex playing days. But I understand why he’s signed him.

Surprised he didn’t sign for Borussia moenchenbadback

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Does he like the ordinary flavoured ones or the orange? 

Orange ones are awful.

[west_london_red]

How the mighty have fallen, thought he had outgrown us, now he’s on loan at Villa 

[CraigDS]

There is something funny how he's ending up at them after wanting to leave us 

Think he might do well there though this season, won't begrudge him it too much as long as it's not against us and is against our rivals!

[Adams83]

I hope he does well, but it's a long time since he's been any good. It's not often players manage to suddenly regain that form. Might improve Villa still. Be interewsting to see how well he does there.

[damomad]

I hold no grudges against him, bought for c£8m sold for c£140m. Money we used to build our title winning team.

Always liked him as a player and hope he does well there, they play City on the last day, imagine a Gerrard led team with the magician costing them the title

[Clayton Bigsby]

His sale directly helped us to big ears and number 19. Don't have even 0.1% bitterness towards him and I hope he smashes it, just not against us.

[amir87]

Main thing I missed about having him was his ability to strike a ball from distance with such accuracy. In my living memory only Stevie was better than him at that.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Karma

[tubby]

Hope it goes well for him, don't bear him any ill will.  Maybe if we'd gone to shit after he left, I'd feel different.

[Zee_26]

Those first few weeks after he signed and where it seemed like he was just playing through balls to Sturridge for fun was probably the first time I got excited about where we were headed under Rodgers.

It's crazy to think it's almost 10 years now and to see what's happened since to the club, Rodgers and Coutinho.

[rob1966]

Will he be registered in time to play on Monday against the Mancs, or do the FA not work weekends?

[JonnyCigarettes®]

I would like to thank him for one of the greatest memories I have of Liverpool.  When he got twatted 4-0 there.

[blamski]

Orange ones are awful.

of all the weird opinions expressed on this forum, this one is just baffling

[Red Beret]

Villa doing to City what we did to Barca

Except what Villa did to City didn't break them financially.

To go from Liverpool, Barcelona and a brief stint at Bayern Munich, to end up at Aston Villa... fuck me. He doesn't turn 30 for another six months.

[AA1122]

He's a quality player, be nice to see him knock in a few on his right foot. If it's against our rivals then all the better.

Past all the leaving shenanigans now.

[RyanBabel19]

He's still decent. Although he wasn't even close to living up to his tramsfer fee in a declining Barca side, he still put up decent numbers when he did play iirc

Think he'll score 4 or 5 goals before the seasons done and get nominated for player of the month at least once. They don't have anyone on his level IMO, even now he's not as good. Watch their players and staff start talking about how unreal he's been in training

[Black Bull Nova]

Think very carefully before you leave Liverpool thinking things will be better

[bornandbRED]

Hold no bitterness towards him at all. Hope it goes well - he’s a good lad and great player, although not sure exactly how much he’s declined in the last 4 years. Interesting one really - he looked world class when he left.

[KillieRed]

He’d hate playing against our midfield, and it will be comical if he’s asked to track back against the likes of Mane or Salah.

[So… Howard Philips]

He’d hate playing against our midfield, and it will be comical if he’s asked to track back against the likes of Mane or Salah.

Assuming any of them are fit.

[alonsoisared]

The way he moved to Barcelona isn't dissimilar to the way that basically every player we've signed from Southampton or wherever else has behaved. At the end of the day as we all know Barcelona and Madrid are seen as the ultimate move for a lot of South American players and he and his agent weren't going to miss the opportunity.

It backfired for him, we put together one of our greatest ever teams and there's not really any need for hard feelings. I'd have loved him back to be honest given our dire lack of depth but I suppose we'd rather wait til summer to do anything about it. Those last few months he was here, he was our best player hands down. Absolutely world class and he added some memorable moments to a miserable time at the end of the Rodgers era and lit up the beginning of the Klopp one too. I like him and wish him the best.

[Clayton Bigsby]

The way he moved to Barcelona isn't dissimilar to the way that basically every player we've signed from Southampton or wherever else has behaved.

So easily forgotten

[FlashGordon]

So easily forgotten

Well yes, because football fans are massive hypocrites. That's okay though because being a supporter of a club is tribal in nature.

Best of luck to him at Villa, hope he can take some points off our rivals.

[bornandbRED]

So as someone who’s barely watched La Liga over the past few years (because it’s no longer on Sky), what actually happened at Barca? Why did it turn out so badly for him?

[rob1966]

Except what Villa did to City didn't break them financially.

To go from Liverpool, Barcelona and a brief stint at Bayern Munich, to end up at Aston Villa... fuck me. He doesn't turn 30 for another six months.

Did he take career advice from Owen?

[afc tukrish]

Did he take career advice from Owen?

If he takes every chance he gets to reference himself in interviews, yes...

[farawayred]

So as someone who’s barely watched La Liga over the past few years (because it’s no longer on Sky), what actually happened at Barca? Why did it turn out so badly for him?

I didn't watch last season and before, so I'm not the one to answer your question, but the premise that he did badly may be off and that's a widely accepted perception... Coutinho put in good numbers at Barca. A slight mesurable decline is evident, but the numbers were not bad. Except they don't match his price tag; I think that's why people judge him to be a failure.

[darragh85]

The way he moved to Barcelona isn't dissimilar to the way that basically every player we've signed from Southampton or wherever else has behaved. At the end of the day as we all know Barcelona and Madrid are seen as the ultimate move for a lot of South American players and he and his agent weren't going to miss the opportunity.

It backfired for him, we put together one of our greatest ever teams and there's not really any need for hard feelings. I'd have loved him back to be honest given our dire lack of depth but I suppose we'd rather wait til summer to do anything about it. Those last few months he was here, he was our best player hands down. Absolutely world class and he added some memorable moments to a miserable time at the end of the Rodgers era and lit up the beginning of the Klopp one too. I like him and wish him the best.

it isnt really though. southampton arent near the same level as liverpool whereas i think many of us would consider liverpool at least on a par with Barcelona. he completely belittled the club by the actions he took to force a move. feigning an injury is as low as it gets.  the fact we never showed any interest in taking him back , even on a loan, says it all imo

[Keith Lard]

it isnt really though. southampton arent near the same level as liverpool whereas i think many of us would consider liverpool at least on a par with Barcelona. he completely belittled the club by the actions he took to force a move. feigning an injury is as low as it gets.  the fact we never showed any interest in taking him back , even on a loan, says it all imo

100% right. That was a daft comparison, being contrarian and "objective" for the sake of it. Liverpool and Barcelona will both go through periods where one team is stronger than the other, but both are bonafide Super clubs. Moving between clubs is not an upgrade on club stature, only the team you play in. Same with Manchester United, Juventus, etc. I can take away my bias and acknowledge their stature. Southampton to Liverpool is a massive upgrade in every sense.

[newterp]

does he get to play tomorrow and torment the Professor?

[Redsnappa]

does he get to play tomorrow and torment the Professor?

That would be perfect, but I believe he only landed in Birmingham last night.

Another Europa-type goal in front of the Stretford End would be nice 

[lionel_messias]

I don't wish him any ill will; we used the money from his sale to furnish our own dreams.

His dreams have been dashed and knocked about by an ill-fitting move and then very high wages blocking an escape.

He's always needed a lot of love from his coach and to be a good fit in a system; with both of those he was absolutely top class. If his goals can hurt some of our league rivals,
that will be all good really.

[fowlermagic]

100% right. That was a daft comparison, being contrarian and "objective" for the sake of it. Liverpool and Barcelona will both go through periods where one team is stronger than the other, but both are bonafide Super clubs. Moving between clubs is not an upgrade on club stature, only the team you play in. Same with Manchester United, Juventus, etc. I can take away my bias and acknowledge their stature. Southampton to Liverpool is a massive upgrade in every sense.

I think the transfer process is similar no matter what club is involved as agent/player hears about interest, bags of money thrown at them, kicks up a fuss and gets their way eventually. Its a short career and agents insure their clients move / threaten to move on a regular basis to max out their earnings. At the time Barcelona was on a different playing field so can see why he wanted to go. Its not as if he dropped his tools because Arsenal came a calling.

[jooneyisdagod]

Always had a good record against City. Hope he can smash a couple in to help us out.

[ChaChaMooMoo]

it isnt really though. southampton arent near the same level as liverpool whereas i think many of us would consider liverpool at least on a par with Barcelona. he completely belittled the club by the actions he took to force a move. feigning an injury is as low as it gets.  the fact we never showed any interest in taking him back , even on a loan, says it all imo

I feel it depends on the perspective. I feel its like comparing apples and oranges.

To us fans, Southampton to Liverpool is a bigger jump than Liverpool to Barcelona. And I think we are right to evaluate it as such. I mean, its obvious. No questions there.

To the player, its different in that they all see the "from" club as a stepping stone. The player sees an opportunity to jump up (mind you its his perspective) from Southampton to Liverpool or Liverpool to Barcelona.

Whilst I reluctantly agree that a move from Liverpool to Barcelona is lucrative to him (weather, city, countryside, guaranteed trophy etc.. and its hard to disagree considering he came from Italy and Brazil earlier) I disagree with the way in which he left us.

Thats why I see it from a different perspective. I learnt it the hard way with Torres.

[Sangria]

I feel it depends on the perspective. I feel its like comparing apples and oranges.

To us fans, Southampton to Liverpool is a bigger jump than Liverpool to Barcelona. And I think we are right to evaluate it as such. I mean, its obvious. No questions there.

To the player, its different in that they all see the "from" club as a stepping stone. The player sees an opportunity to jump up (mind you its his perspective) from Southampton to Liverpool or Liverpool to Barcelona.

Whilst I reluctantly agree that a move from Liverpool to Barcelona is lucrative to him (weather, city, countryside, guaranteed trophy etc.. and its hard to disagree considering he came from Italy and Brazil earlier) I disagree with the way in which he left us.

Thats why I see it from a different perspective. I learnt it the hard way with Torres.

Another perspective is to see how Suarez is still admired by many, despite being the biggest **** of all in getting his move from Liverpool. I can't bring myself to dislike Coutinho all that much when there's a much worse example. Gloat over his subsequent failure, yes.